We will know where the .mobi market is on Friday, October 24th - vet, vehicles, more!

jeremyp · 10-17-2008, 09:00 PM

I have 5 landrush auctions at Sedo. The results will give us a much better understanding of where we are vs 2007 in terms of .mobi valuations.

It's been a long time since I've seen really premium names on SEDO. My expectation is that we are approximately 60-75% of last year on premium landrush names.

Why am I selling?

I am going to put the money directly from the auction into the US stock market. Call me nuts, but I see the biggest opportunity for short term (1 year) gain in the DOW/NASDAQ index funds!

LET'S SEE WHAT THE .MOBI MARKET REALLY IS ALL ABOUT:

antigua.mobi
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/dot-mobi/525040-we-will-know-where-mobi-market.html
trinidad.mobi
condominiums.mobi
vehicles.mobi
vet.mobi

mjnels · 10-17-2008, 10:12 PM

we already know where the market is at... where ya been?

onassis · 10-17-2008, 10:22 PM

All the best, now is not the right time for sure.

Wait till the US presidential election ended, as activities by government will be quiet like a desert after election.

Likely the stock market will drop further after the presidential election. The worst is yet to come.

It best to prepare the money for further unexpected needs.

labrocca · 10-18-2008, 12:27 PM

Good move imho. But you were such a hold guy last year. Do regret not selling more of these names a year ago when some may have fetched $xx,xxx?

Btw...I just placed a bid on vet.mobi.

Keith · 10-18-2008, 01:32 PM

With all due respect Jeremy, a few sales will not determine the overall hold on the marketplace. This is prob the worst time to sell IMHO (unless you reach an enduser).

Sorry Lab, just outbid you on principle

jeremyp · 10-18-2008, 01:38 PM

Originally Posted by labrocca

Good move imho. But you were such a hold guy last year. Do regret not selling more of these names a year ago when some may have fetched $xx,xxx?

labrocca, no regrets. While I feel that .mobi has a significant future, I am making more immediate decisions. I am cost averaging down my position in the US markets! :-)

Originally Posted by keithmt

With all due respect Jeremy, a few sales will not determine the overall hold on the marketplace. This is prob the worst time to sell IMHO (unless you reach an enduser).

You could very well be right. I believe MTLD held and good landrush names have fared better than most people think.

***Domainate.com*** · 10-18-2008, 01:43 PM

Nevermind my post - mistook "landrush" for mTLD released premiums...I assume these 5 have no development requirements by mTLD?

Keith · 10-18-2008, 01:44 PM

Originally Posted by jeremyp

You could very well be right. I believe MTLD held and good landrush names have fared better than most people think.

I think you'll do well with the the names on auction. Quality cannot be denied!

Originally Posted by NameTrader.com

I hate to say this, but if those are landrush, don't they have a date by which they're supposed to be developed, and shouldn't you have that in the auctions? I know with our 1 landrush, while dotMobi gave an extension, we still have a deadline for development (January).

No. Only Mtld premiums require dev. Landrush purchases have no strings attached.

***Domainate.com*** · 10-18-2008, 01:46 PM

Originally Posted by keithmt

I think you'll do well with the the names on auction. Quality cannot be denied!

No. Only Mtld premiums require dev. Landrush purchases have no strings attached.

Bah, you caught me before I realized and edited post.

GL on the auctions.

pchip · 10-18-2008, 02:37 PM

I don't know much about the stock market but it would seem that now is the time to buy. I thought I seen something on cnn saying that warren buffet published something saying now is the time to invest in the market.

-REECE- · 10-18-2008, 08:33 PM

If you have lots of faith in the .mobi market, why not wait until after the big Sedo auction on November 5-12? I'm sure plenty of .mobi investors will have renewed confidence in .mobi IF results are good then.

onassis · 10-18-2008, 08:44 PM

Reece,

I really love the fat cat pic of your.

Do you own this fat cat???

-REECE- · 10-18-2008, 08:59 PM

I wish

If you do a Google search on "fat cat" it will show a picture of it.

Originally Posted by onassis

Reece,

I really love the fat cat pic of your.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=525040

Do you own this fat cat???

Good luck with the auction Jeremy. Hope it works out well for you

Keith · 10-19-2008, 04:15 AM

Originally Posted by www.LLLL.com

If you have lots of faith in the .mobi market, why not wait until after the big Sedo auction on November 5-12? I'm sure plenty of .mobi investors will have renewed confidence in .mobi IF results are good then.

Maybe because the buyers will be broke after the premium auction.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=525040
Best to get their money now

jeremyp · 10-24-2008, 04:38 PM

RESULTS:

Trinidad.mobi - $951
Antigua.mobi - $1,470
Vet.mobi - $510
Condominiums.mobi - $500
Vehicles.mobi - $960

Overall, I'm not thrilled... not too bad either.

I believe this is a big discount from last year, but, all in all, this market is viable.

And, that brings me to a major announcement... tomorrow.

Jeremy

mjnels · 10-24-2008, 04:52 PM

the Jeremy P. dotmobi portfolio firesale?

Pred · 10-24-2008, 05:01 PM

Originally Posted by onassis

I really love the fat cat

we all love fat pussy bro

Originally Posted by jeremyp

Vet.mobi - $510

that was an ubelievable steal, also great application with extension imho

Originally Posted by mjnels

the Jeremy P. dotmobi portfolio firesale?

actually reading between lines in jeremy's post i would say something different. possibly a big enduser sale or enduser application? am i right?

labrocca · 10-25-2008, 05:03 PM

Quote:

LET'S SEE WHAT THE .MOBI MARKET REALLY IS ALL about:

Hmm..well judging by these low sales figures I would say you have done 1/5 or worse of the sales you might have made about a year ago. vet.mobi should have fetched $1200+ imho. $510 is very low for that name.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=525040

I think the prices are reasonable overall but they are just so much lower than what you could have gotten had you sold instead of hold. Are you still going to continue to preach hold when you yourself are selling?

In two years $510 for vet.mobi might be a real high sale.

It's all still good profit though and congrats.

Jasonn · 10-25-2008, 05:14 PM

Originally Posted by labrocca

Hmm..well judging by these low sales figures I would say you have done 1/5 or worse of the sales you might have made about a year ago. vet.mobi should have fetched $1200+ imho. $510 is very low for that name.

I think the prices are reasonable overall but they are just so much lower than what you could have gotten had you sold instead of hold. Are you still going to continue to preach hold when you yourself are selling?
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=525040

In two years $510 for vet.mobi might be a real high sale.

It's all still good profit though and congrats.

I agree, these prices are pretty disappointing to see. I have some great mobi's and sometimes wish i would have sold them in late 2006. However, since that opportunity has passed I'm holding until the mobile web blows up. Either they'll be worth a lot more or almost nothing but I'm willing to take the chance. There is no way I'd be selling now unless I was in great need of the money.

jeremyp · 10-25-2008, 05:23 PM

VET.MOBI at $510 was an outstanding deal.

I am selling about 50% of my portfolio. I am holding 50%.

I believe in .MOBI and invested 6-figures in .MOBI.

I'll tell you this... no matter what happens, I don't look back. Leave money on the table, don't look back. Make a killing, don't look back. Either way.

In 5 years, when .mobi is the center of the mobile universe, will I look back?

Yes. ;-)

Jeremy

labrocca · 10-26-2008, 03:52 PM

Your posts always had a feeling of intelligence and thought placed into them. As if you knew something the rest of us didn't. Now I see it's blind faith in mobi.

If I have time I would like to dig up some of your old quotes about your enthusiasm toward mobi's future which you still show yet you are selling off 50% of your mobi portfolio.

From 10/14/07

Quote:

Now, I sit on the inventory... 181 premium, day #1, landrush names. I'll renew these names for the next 10 years with an eye on the market.

From March 2007

Quote:

Cashflow is important. Not all of you will weather the long-term speculation storm... and it will be a long ride. I purchased 200 names, sold 13, and I'll sit on 185-187 names for 5-7 years. In that time, I plan on spending $1,500-$2,000 per year keeping the registrations active.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=525040

Not all of you can stomach this. If MOBI is adopted to the level that I believe it will be adopted, those of you who stick it out (and genuinely have a good portfolio - generics that define industries or with good cashflow potential from PPC) will do well.

It's a long-term speculation play.

That's a bad one there Jeremy.

From Dec 30, 2006

Quote:

MOBI is a 3-5 year play. The best names are not on the marketplace. When these names sell at high 5 to high 6 figures, just watch the secondary market explode.

In the next week or two, you will see or hear of me selling a few more MOBI names at a discount. It will only be 3-5 more names.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=525040

At that time, I will have purchased 193 names... Sold 10 names... and will be sitting on a potential goldmine.

Less than 2 years after that post you're selling 1/2 of your mobi's.

You're one of the few that made great arguments about mobi. You were without doubt the Jim Jones of Namepros leading your flock into mobi. Do you regret some words now that you look back? You may have convinced a lot of people to invest heavily into mobi as a long-term play but the longer they wait the less likely imho they are going to bank anything.

As time goes on I will continue to bring up some of these old posts and arguments that were viewed by many as incidiery and anti-mobi. In reality some of us were preaching caution and plainly telling people not to drink the kool-aid. I feel bad for the people that lost thousands on mobi.

A "yup I was wrong" post would probably be appropriate from you. Mobi fans should get out while there is still something to sell these for. Profit can still be made for some but imho..2 years from now there won't be. After 4-5 years of renewal fees and how many drops of names that are completely terrible the profit margin is marginalized.

Jeremy you were lucky enough to get a lot of solid sunrise names. As well as selling early for good money some premium names. That was smart at the time but you and I both know selling in 2007 would have brought you the most profit and each year that passes will lower the potential profit. Today you sell 50% but I bet you sell most of it within 2 years or let them drop. Keeping on a small percentage of solid names that are worth keeping the 10 years you originally quoted is the hold time.

Bodhi · 10-26-2008, 05:06 PM

Originally Posted by labrocca

Your posts always had a feeling of intelligence and thought placed into them. As if you knew something the rest of us didn't. Now I see it's blind faith in mobi.

If I have time I would like to dig up some of your old quotes about your enthusiasm toward mobi's future which you still show yet you are selling off 50% of your mobi portfolio.

From 10/14/07

From March 2007

That's a bad one there Jeremy.

From Dec 30, 2006

Less than 2 years after that post you're selling 1/2 of your mobi's.

You're one of the few that made great arguments about mobi. You were without doubt the Jim Jones of Namepros leading your flock into mobi. Do you regret some words now that you look back? You may have convinced a lot of people to invest heavily into mobi as a long-term play but the longer they wait the less likely imho they are going to bank anything.

As time goes on I will continue to bring up some of these old posts and arguments that were viewed by many as incidiery and anti-mobi. In reality some of us were preaching caution and plainly telling people not to drink the kool-aid. I feel bad for the people that lost thousands on mobi.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=525040

A "yup I was wrong" post would probably be appropriate from you. Mobi fans should get out while there is still something to sell these for. Profit can still be made for some but imho..2 years from now there won't be. After 4-5 years of renewal fees and how many drops of names that are completely terrible the profit margin is marginalized.

Jeremy you were lucky enough to get a lot of solid sunrise names. As well as selling early for good money some premium names. That was smart at the time but you and I both know selling in 2007 would have brought you the most profit and each year that passes will lower the potential profit. Today you sell 50% but I bet you sell most of it within 2 years or let them drop. Keeping on a small percentage of solid names that are worth keeping the 10 years you originally quoted is the hold time.

Come on, take it a bit easy on Jeremy. This thing with the economy was not on a lot of peoples minds two years ago. Speculative investments have taken a nosedive. Even the mighty LLL.com has lost value and for most domainers that was a sure thing. I don't think any of us saw that one coming.

We all could have got better prices last year on our names versus right now. Of course speculative names will suffer the worst in an uncertain market.

labrocca · 10-26-2008, 05:44 PM

I agree but it wasn't hard to forsee that mobi's future wasn't written in stone. And I continued to be harrassed on a number of levels over my opinion about mobi. Now as each month passes and the mobi enthusiasts withdraw I am left with a feeling of vindication.

Quote:

We all could have got better prices last year on our names versus right now.

Mostly on non CNO's. I been doing quite nicely with offers the past few months. Matter of fact the past 60 days for me have been busier than the first 8 months of the year total. LLL.com's have dipped but they are still a safer long-term hold than a mobi.

http://3character.com/priceguide.html

LLL.com's went up..LLL.mobi went down. LLL.mobis are now BELOW their sunrise costs. A sure sign of a dead market for domainers.

I remember so many fans of mobi over and over again convincing others to buy mobi and invest in mobi and mobi was the future. Jeremy was imho the most well-known and respected of them all. Yet here he is less than 2 years of stating a hold of 3-5 years and selling 1/2 his mobi's. C'mon. Let's be real here. Mobi fanatics were selling a bill of goods to help artificially inflate their portfolios. Now they realize it's all over they are selling off.

Where are the mobi fans now?

snoop · 10-26-2008, 05:49 PM

Originally Posted by labrocca

Mostly on non CNO's. I been doing quite nicely with offers the past few months. Matter of fact the past 60 days for me have been busier than the first 8 months of the year total. LLL.com's have dipped but they are still a safer long-term hold than a mobi.

Let's be realistic, anyone who think the CNO market has done well lately is fooling themselves, the entire domain market has been belted. Prices looked to be down 50% for quality .com's, .net's worse than that, nowhere near as bad as more speculative markets such as .mobi though. Probably the strongest market has been ultra low quality lll.com, only down 40%!

DomainTalker · 10-26-2008, 05:57 PM

Sorry to say, Jeremy, I bid on vet.mobi, but missed it by seconds - it closed as I hit the button....It would have given you more for that one.

Yes, not great prices.

Perhaps predictable at this early stage of the internet mobile phone development, with a new extension aimed at a new internet market + the massive de leveraging of wealth that's currently going on around the world, and in near-recessionary times.

Uncertainty hurts all markets (including domains) - and, there is massive uncertainty in every market, in every product category, at the moment.

Some ask (in the domain arena): 'What is the next 'thing'?'

Y'know - as the world eventually emerges from these really difficult times (over the next few years) I speculate that THE super-mover, as we re-enter better times, WILL be the mobile web....I mean, it'll blast out of the blocks on the upswing, imo, as world economies recover....It'll really take hold, and become massively ubiquitous...
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=525040

.mobi lovers....I believe, as that happens, .mobi will be a large part of it.

Hold as many good .mobi names as you can boys & girls...

.

10-17-2008, 09:00 PM	THREAD STARTER #1 (permalink)
jeremyp NamePros Regular Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 603	We will know where the .mobi market is on Friday, October 24th - vet, vehicles, more! I have 5 landrush auctions at Sedo. The results will give us a much better understanding of where we are vs 2007 in terms of .mobi valuations. It's been a long time since I've seen really premium names on SEDO. My expectation is that we are approximately 60-75% of last year on premium landrush names. Why am I selling? I am going to put the money directly from the auction into the US stock market. Call me nuts, but I see the biggest opportunity for short term (1 year) gain in the DOW/NASDAQ index funds! LET'S SEE WHAT THE .MOBI MARKET REALLY IS ALL ABOUT: antigua.mobi ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/dot-mobi/525040-we-will-know-where-mobi-market.html trinidad.mobi condominiums.mobi vehicles.mobi vet.mobi __________________ www.Boing.mobi - search the complete mobile web from .MOBI to .COM!

10-17-2008, 10:12 PM	#2 (permalink)
mjnels Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Sunny Florida Posts: 2,171	we already know where the market is at... where ya been? __________________ :\|

10-17-2008, 10:22 PM	#3 (permalink)
onassis NamePros Regular Join Date: May 2007 Location: Singapore For Now Posts: 671	All the best, now is not the right time for sure. Wait till the US presidential election ended, as activities by government will be quiet like a desert after election. Likely the stock market will drop further after the presidential election. The worst is yet to come. It best to prepare the money for further unexpected needs. __________________ Valued Hosting & Domains Broadcast Yourself at midshow.com

10-18-2008, 12:27 PM	#4 (permalink)
labrocca NamePros Expert Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 6,268 Follow @supportforums	Good move imho. But you were such a hold guy last year. Do regret not selling more of these names a year ago when some may have fetched $xx,xxx? Btw...I just placed a bid on vet.mobi. __________________ :$: Support Forum <-- My latest endeavor.:loveyou: Debate Forums Free Online Sudoku My vBum Blog

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Keith Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: "D" town Posts: 3,617	With all due respect Jeremy, a few sales will not determine the overall hold on the marketplace. This is prob the worst time to sell IMHO (unless you reach an enduser). Sorry Lab, just outbid you on principle Last edited by Keith; 10-18-2008 at 01:36 PM.

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pchip NamePros Regular Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 233	I don't know much about the stock market but it would seem that now is the time to buy. I thought I seen something on cnn saying that warren buffet published something saying now is the time to invest in the market.

10-18-2008, 08:33 PM	#11 (permalink)
-REECE- NamePros Expert Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 8,984	If you have lots of faith in the .mobi market, why not wait until after the big Sedo auction on November 5-12? I'm sure plenty of .mobi investors will have renewed confidence in .mobi IF results are good then.

10-18-2008, 08:44 PM	#12 (permalink)
onassis NamePros Regular Join Date: May 2007 Location: Singapore For Now Posts: 671	Reece, I really love the fat cat pic of your. Do you own this fat cat??? __________________ Valued Hosting & Domains Broadcast Yourself at midshow.com

10-24-2008, 04:38 PM	THREAD STARTER #15 (permalink)
jeremyp NamePros Regular Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 603	RESULTS: Trinidad.mobi - $951 Antigua.mobi - $1,470 Vet.mobi - $510 Condominiums.mobi - $500 Vehicles.mobi - $960 Overall, I'm not thrilled... not too bad either. I believe this is a big discount from last year, but, all in all, this market is viable. And, that brings me to a major announcement... tomorrow. Jeremy __________________ www.Boing.mobi - search the complete mobile web from .MOBI to .COM!

10-24-2008, 04:52 PM	#16 (permalink)
mjnels Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Sunny Florida Posts: 2,171	the Jeremy P. dotmobi portfolio firesale? __________________ :\|

10-25-2008, 05:23 PM	THREAD STARTER #20 (permalink)
jeremyp NamePros Regular Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 603	VET.MOBI at $510 was an outstanding deal. I am selling about 50% of my portfolio. I am holding 50%. I believe in .MOBI and invested 6-figures in .MOBI. I'll tell you this... no matter what happens, I don't look back. Leave money on the table, don't look back. Make a killing, don't look back. Either way. In 5 years, when .mobi is the center of the mobile universe, will I look back? Yes. ;-) Jeremy __________________ www.Boing.mobi - search the complete mobile web from .MOBI to .COM!

10-26-2008, 05:57 PM	#25 (permalink)
DomainTalker Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: http://ISSUES.COM Posts: 1,126	Sorry to say, Jeremy, I bid on vet.mobi, but missed it by seconds - it closed as I hit the button....It would have given you more for that one. Yes, not great prices. Perhaps predictable at this early stage of the internet mobile phone development, with a new extension aimed at a new internet market + the massive de leveraging of wealth that's currently going on around the world, and in near-recessionary times. Uncertainty hurts all markets (including domains) - and, there is massive uncertainty in every market, in every product category, at the moment. Some ask (in the domain arena): 'What is the next 'thing'?' Y'know - as the world eventually emerges from these really difficult times (over the next few years) I speculate that THE super-mover, as we re-enter better times, WILL be the mobile web....I mean, it'll blast out of the blocks on the upswing, imo, as world economies recover....It'll really take hold, and become massively ubiquitous... ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=525040 .mobi lovers....I believe, as that happens, .mobi will be a large part of it. Hold as many good .mobi names as you can boys & girls... . __________________ NewMediaFrontiers.com® - ChatBox.com - Movie.info - Phone.me M.biz - Hypnotherapist.com - AJ.net - YT.net - iFlyDrive.com - iSofa.com

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