Is it dropping or rising?

hitesh93 · 07-17-2008, 09:49 AM

This is NOT a MOBI good/MOBI Bad thread, though it will likely become that.

I want to know whether now is the right time for me to sell some of my near-premium domain names. I'm talking about exact keywords that get 20,000-400,000 searches just from Google every month like topschools.mobi, top10colleges.mobi, and so on.

I need some cash, and am just wondering if I should hold on to them because the value will go up, or if I should try and sell them for a good price right now.

I noticed that religion.mobi and onlinepoker.mobi sold for $3k and $2.4k each just last week, so that gives me hope, but I'm not quite sure - thoughts?

accent · 07-17-2008, 12:37 PM

The overall economy - and the domain market - is down now. Nothing is selling for what it would have brought a few months ago. So the first question is what do you think the overall economy will do?
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Second question is how you see the domain market doing.

Third question is how you see the growth of the mobile web?

Then comes the question of .Mobi's part in the Mobile web.

So you have four questions about the market. Also two about you:

How do you feel emotionally about your investment?

Do you have something to do with the money (other investment, spend on yourself, pay bills)?

Nobody can predict the overall economy, the stock market is riding a roller coaster at the moment, and the other three levels listed above add to the uncertainty. After over 20 months I still cannot see how well .Mobi will do - there certainly are some very big corporations that are using it, but less than I would like.

That grey area in between the hopes and the fears.

davidwest · 07-17-2008, 02:50 PM

although there is some science to it...

what you asked is sort of like asking how you should bet a poker hand.

asking a friend how much you should bet is really meaningless. a hundred dollars might be a greater risk for your friend than twenty thousand is for you.

for example, if i were you, i would sell everything. but my needs and goals may be very different than yours. how much do you want for everything? how long can you afford to pay reg fees? is mobi really reclaiming domains that are not developed after 6 months? these are the type of questions that you have to ask yourself. there are a lot of people buying mobis for pennies on the dollar (sort of). at the same time there are plenty of mobis that are still selling for one to several thousand dollars. if you feel lucky, let 'em ride. if you want to settle for the sure thing, then sell now... in the end it is entirely up to you.
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cheers and good luck.
d

mjnels · 07-17-2008, 03:16 PM

very good answer..

labrocca · 07-17-2008, 03:27 PM

I am trying to sell off my mobi's. I think there is a strong chance their value will go down befere they go up. That's assuming they will at a later time they go back up.

cityforums.com · 07-17-2008, 03:33 PM

Originally Posted by labrocca

I am trying to sell off my mobi's. I think there is a strong chance their value will go down befere they go up. That's assuming they will at a later time they go back up.

Not sure they will come back in value Jesse ... everything mobey can do
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.COM can do better ... it may come to pass that flowers.mobi may provide

type in traffic for flowers.com ... I think money invested elsewhere may prove

more fruitful ... there will always be exceptions but overall the opportunity cost

is just too high imho.

mjnels · 07-17-2008, 03:36 PM

Originally Posted by labrocca

I am trying to sell off my mobi's. I think there is a strong chance their value will go down befere they go up. That's assuming they will at a later time they go back up.

um, great prediction... except their value is already going down this year.

Originally Posted by cosmicray

Not sure they will come back in value Jesse ... everything mobey can do

.COM can do better ... it may come to pass that flowers.mobi may provide

type in traffic for flowers.com ... I think money invested elsewhere may prove

more fruitful ... there will always be exceptions but overall the opportunity cost

is just too high imho.

yes, all hail .COM.... since this is a grand competition between .mobi and .com

we should do all we can to cleanse the internet of .mobi... .COM is the pure bread... ALL HAIL .COM (....bows to .com and offers it a sacrificial lamb)

hawkeye · 07-17-2008, 04:14 PM

Originally Posted by mjnels

yes, all hail .COM.... since this is a grand competition between .mobi and .com

we should do all we can to cleanse the internet of .mobi... .COM is the pure bread... ALL HAIL .COM (....bows to .com and offers it a sacrificial lamb)

Ohhh yeahhh mj, .mobi was created just to try to compete with .com!! I mean look at all those that only compare .mobi to .com!! No other extensions, old or new! Just .mobi to .com!! So I guess it comes to reason why there's such a need for so many to constantly note this same 'meaningless' comparison over and over. They truely bought and believe that lame argument!! HA.

DBADT2007 · 07-18-2008, 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by hawkeye

Originally Posted by mjnels

yes, all hail .COM.... since this is a grand competition between .mobi and .com
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=493772

we should do all we can to cleanse the internet of .mobi... .COM is the pure bread... ALL HAIL .COM (....bows to .com and offers it a sacrificial lamb)

Ohhh yeahhh mj, .mobi was created just to try to compete with .com!! I mean look at all those that only compare .mobi to .com!! No other extensions, old or new! Just .mobi to .com!! So I guess it comes to reason why there's such a need for so many to constantly note this same 'meaningless' comparison over and over. They truely bought and believe that lame argument!! HA.

hawk, calm down.

Correct me, if I am wrong MJ, but it sounded to me like you were being humorously sarcastic.

Keith · 07-18-2008, 04:06 PM

To answer the op...now is the wrong time to sell! It does'nt matter
if it's .mobi, .com, or whatever. The market is down!

hitesh93 · 07-18-2008, 04:08 PM

Okay, I know .mobi is not anywhere near .com in value, but neither is any other extension. My question was NOT - compare .mobi with other extensions, and its current value. Thank you for all the input guys, I appreciate it. I guess I'm just looking for a good value for my .mobis, so if any of you are interested, let me as well.

hawkeye · 07-18-2008, 04:12 PM

Originally Posted by DBADT2007

hawk, calm down.

Correct me, if I am wrong MJ, but it sounded to me like you were being humorously sarcastic.

He was DBADT, and so was I!!

mjnels · 07-18-2008, 04:46 PM

yea, hawkeye knows about my sarcasm...

thebiffenator · 07-18-2008, 07:13 PM

Originally Posted by hitesh93

This is NOT a MOBI good/MOBI Bad thread, though it will likely become that.

I want to know whether now is the right time for me to sell some of my near-premium domain names. I'm talking about exact keywords that get 20,000-400,000 searches just from Google every month like topschools.mobi, top10colleges.mobi, and so on.

I need some cash, and am just wondering if I should hold on to them because the value will go up, or if I should try and sell them for a good price right now.

I noticed that religion.mobi and onlinepoker.mobi sold for $3k and $2.4k each just last week, so that gives me hope, but I'm not quite sure - thoughts?

Now is not the time to sell anything, but only if you have too. Everything is down like stated.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=493772

I have to sell some names, but I don't want too...but forced to sell.

Now is a great time to pick up bargains

teabag · 07-22-2008, 10:23 AM

Honestly , look at my threads where i'm selling the names for pennies.
At the same time i've sold an average plural name for $600 only few weeks ago to the end user who contacted me via email.

.MOBI has it's own market and this market is not as good as .com ofcourse.
But again, i would never ever sell my names for the next 2 years at least, but i forced
to sell them. Generic names with ANY extention have a value no matter which extention.

Keith · 07-22-2008, 07:30 PM

No rush to sell mobis. The next year or two will pay dividends
for those who hold onto their primos!

snoop · 07-22-2008, 08:09 PM

The ship is gradually sinking, I wouldn't expect any second coming. I think this extension will see .info like prices long term. Best prices you will see is right now in my view.

cityforums.com · 07-22-2008, 08:15 PM

Originally Posted by snoop

The ship is gradually sinking, I wouldn't expect any second coming. I think this extension will see .info like prices long term. Best prices you will see is right now in my view.

I would have to agree with you snoop.

HeyNow · 07-23-2008, 05:49 AM

Originally Posted by snoop

The ship is gradually sinking, I wouldn't expect any second coming. I think this extension will see .info like prices long term. Best prices you will see is right now in my view.

Yeah, sure, the ship is "sinking." You'd better tell all those major corps that keep using, branding, and promoting their .mobi sites every day. Better tell all of those banks whose customers are using the banks' .mobi sites for transactions like transferring cash and making payments that .mobi is "sinking." You're going to tell them, right?

What you really mean, snoop, is that your particular type of domain use is "sinking" rapidly in the realm of .mobi and other extensions. Of course that's good for .mobi, and bad for you.

IMHO, the extension that provides consumers with more real content and fewer PPC schemes will be healthier and more widely used in the long run. PPC schemes are polluting most TLDs, including .com. Eventually, consumers will gravitate to extensions which aren't frustrating to use.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=493772

ICANNs decision to include unlimited TLDs is partly due to the need to deflate the bubble you've been riding on for sit-on-my-ass-and-produce-nothing-useful type of income.

Originally Posted by cosmicray

I would have to agree with you snoop.

But of course you do.

snoop · 07-23-2008, 07:08 AM

Originally Posted by HeyNow

Yeah, sure, the ship is "sinking." You'd better tell all those major corps that keep using, branding, and promoting their .mobi sites every day. Better tell all of those banks whose customers are using the banks' .mobi sites for transactions like transferring cash and making payments that .mobi is "sinking." You're going to tell them, right?

What you really mean, snoop, is that your particular type of domain use is "sinking" rapidly in the realm of .mobi and other extensions. Of course that's good for .mobi, and bad for you.

IMHO, the extension that provides consumers with more real content and fewer PPC schemes will be healthier and more widely used in the long run. PPC schemes are polluting most TLDs, including .com. Eventually, consumers will gravitate to extensions which aren't frustrating to use.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=493772

ICANNs decision to include unlimited TLDs is partly due to the need to deflate the bubble you've been riding on for sit-on-my-ass-and-produce-nothing-useful type of income.

But of course you do.

The ship that is sinking is the value of these names, if you are the Bank of America with less one billioneth of your assets tied up in .mobi then there isn't a concern, .mobi sinks/.mobi takes off, it doesn't matter at all, they won't care either way, they aren't domain speculators. They can write off that $8 investment and move it all to a subdomain.

If you are a domainer chatting on a domain forum, with a whole lot of money tied on in .mobi domains and posting up every link you can find to a .mobi site, then that is another thing entirely. "Real content", "no ppc schemes", this is all fluff argument we've heard many times before with .info, .biz, .us, .eu and every other failed tld.

At the end of the day we are all trying to make money from domains, either from resale or ppc. Domainers will fill names up with garbage content and ppc ads regardless of extension, at least with .com you can ride off the developers backs, with .mobi there ain't too many backs to ride on other than the backs of other domainers, and at the end of the day that isn't sustainable.

mjnels · 07-23-2008, 07:14 AM

my .mobi aftermarket prediction: second coming = 2010.

and it wont be the kind of second coming people are expecting.. i dont think prices will be anywhere near the bubble prices that led up from landrush till early this year.

gemsergio · 07-23-2008, 07:25 AM

Originally Posted by hitesh93

This is NOT a MOBI good/MOBI Bad thread, though it will likely become that.

I want to know whether now is the right time for me to sell some of my near-premium domain names. I'm talking about exact keywords that get 20,000-400,000 searches just from Google every month like topschools.mobi, top10colleges.mobi, and so on.

I need some cash, and am just wondering if I should hold on to them because the value will go up, or if I should try and sell them for a good price right now.

I noticed that religion.mobi and onlinepoker.mobi sold for $3k and $2.4k each just last week, so that gives me hope, but I'm not quite sure - thoughts?

There is a big fallacy to begin with your post. Lets not even talk about .mobi or .com but lets talk about domain names.
First of all online poker and religion are very prime KW while top 10 colleges is basically garbage. So the sale of onlinepoker for 2.4K USD should depress you quite a bit.
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Ok now you have onlinepoker.mobi sold for 3K USD while the .com is probabbly worth (lets keep it really low) 300K USD.
Now the value of the .mobi is 1% (A lot less if you ask me) of the .com.
You are talking about near premium domains but you really need to be realistic if top10colleges its a near premium KW you are totally delusional. I would never register top10colleges in the .com version but lets be very very super optimistic and apprais it at 500 USD (I personally think its not even worth reg fee) now the .mobi version at max 1% of the value and you are talking about 5 USD (which trust me it is not the value of the name at all since the name has 0 value).
How much is renewal? Do you want to hold on to this name? If you sell them for 10 USD I would be really surprised, if you sell them at 100 USD you are a genius. I really do not want to offend you but let those names expire and save yourself some money. If you can sell them GREAT for you.

mjnels · 07-23-2008, 07:37 AM

i also noticed the examples in the OP's post... heh heh

their two examples seem to have just been registered at the beginning of 2008.... i do not know much about .com valuations but i do know .mobi and these are reg-fee names in the current market and foreseeable future.

scandiman · 07-23-2008, 07:38 AM

Originally Posted by snoop

At the end of the day we are all trying to make money from domains, either from resale or ppc. Domainers will fill names up with garbage content and ppc ads regardless of extension, at least with .com you can ride off the developers backs, with .mobi there ain't too many backs to ride on other than the backs of other domainers, and at the end of the day that isn't sustainable.

snoop, I'd say this is a pretty good assessment of domainers in general.

HeyNow · 07-23-2008, 10:05 AM

Originally Posted by snoop

The ship that is sinking is the value of these names, if you are the Bank of America with less one billioneth of your assets tied up in .mobi then there isn't a concern, .mobi sinks/.mobi takes off, it doesn't matter at all, they won't care either way, they aren't domain speculators. They can write off that $8 investment and move it all to a subdomain.

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No. It costs them alot to brand in any extension. They chose .mobi. The domain only costs 8 bucks, but the branding will cost them tens of thousands of dollars or more now, and millions as time goes by.

07-17-2008, 09:49 AM	THREAD STARTER #1 (permalink)
hitesh93 NamePros Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 181	Is it dropping or rising? This is NOT a MOBI good/MOBI Bad thread, though it will likely become that. I want to know whether now is the right time for me to sell some of my near-premium domain names. I'm talking about exact keywords that get 20,000-400,000 searches just from Google every month like topschools.mobi, top10colleges.mobi, and so on. I need some cash, and am just wondering if I should hold on to them because the value will go up, or if I should try and sell them for a good price right now. I noticed that religion.mobi and onlinepoker.mobi sold for $3k and $2.4k each just last week, so that gives me hope, but I'm not quite sure - thoughts? __________________ Want To Rank In Google? Meet All Your SEO Needs!

07-17-2008, 12:37 PM	#2 (permalink)
accent Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 2,295	The overall economy - and the domain market - is down now. Nothing is selling for what it would have brought a few months ago. So the first question is what do you think the overall economy will do? ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/dot-mobi/493772-is-it-dropping-or-rising.html Second question is how you see the domain market doing. Third question is how you see the growth of the mobile web? Then comes the question of .Mobi's part in the Mobile web. So you have four questions about the market. Also two about you: How do you feel emotionally about your investment? Do you have something to do with the money (other investment, spend on yourself, pay bills)? Nobody can predict the overall economy, the stock market is riding a roller coaster at the moment, and the other three levels listed above add to the uncertainty. After over 20 months I still cannot see how well .Mobi will do - there certainly are some very big corporations that are using it, but less than I would like. That grey area in between the hopes and the fears. __________________ Domains for sale For List Of Country Code Domains Jewelry of Tibet and Nepal TibetanJewelry.mobi Tibetan Symbols Om Pyramids Ancient Egyptian Secrets Ancient Mystery Eden Shakti

07-17-2008, 02:50 PM	#3 (permalink)
davidwest NamePros Regular Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: california Posts: 347	poker hand.... although there is some science to it... what you asked is sort of like asking how you should bet a poker hand. asking a friend how much you should bet is really meaningless. a hundred dollars might be a greater risk for your friend than twenty thousand is for you. for example, if i were you, i would sell everything. but my needs and goals may be very different than yours. how much do you want for everything? how long can you afford to pay reg fees? is mobi really reclaiming domains that are not developed after 6 months? these are the type of questions that you have to ask yourself. there are a lot of people buying mobis for pennies on the dollar (sort of). at the same time there are plenty of mobis that are still selling for one to several thousand dollars. if you feel lucky, let 'em ride. if you want to settle for the sure thing, then sell now... in the end it is entirely up to you. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=493772 cheers and good luck. d __________________ ...XRUMER Blast... . Tel Girl Laura Haddock DNWANTADS iLV.telVegas Phone Numbers for Your iPhone-

07-17-2008, 03:16 PM	#4 (permalink)
mjnels Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Sunny Florida Posts: 2,181	very good answer.. __________________ :\|

07-17-2008, 03:27 PM	#5 (permalink)
labrocca NamePros Expert Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 6,277 Follow @supportforums	I am trying to sell off my mobi's. I think there is a strong chance their value will go down befere they go up. That's assuming they will at a later time they go back up. __________________ :$: Support Forum <-- My latest endeavor.:loveyou: Debate Forums Free Online Sudoku My vBum Blog

07-18-2008, 04:06 PM	#10 (permalink)
Keith Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: "D" town Posts: 3,430	To answer the op...now is the wrong time to sell! It does'nt matter if it's .mobi, .com, or whatever. The market is down!

07-18-2008, 04:08 PM	THREAD STARTER #11 (permalink)
hitesh93 NamePros Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 181	Okay, I know .mobi is not anywhere near .com in value, but neither is any other extension. My question was NOT - compare .mobi with other extensions, and its current value. Thank you for all the input guys, I appreciate it. I guess I'm just looking for a good value for my .mobis, so if any of you are interested, let me as well. __________________ Want To Rank In Google? Meet All Your SEO Needs!

07-18-2008, 04:46 PM	#13 (permalink)
mjnels Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Sunny Florida Posts: 2,181	yea, hawkeye knows about my sarcasm... __________________ :\|

07-22-2008, 10:23 AM	#15 (permalink)
teabag Account Closed Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 157	Honestly , look at my threads where i'm selling the names for pennies. At the same time i've sold an average plural name for $600 only few weeks ago to the end user who contacted me via email. .MOBI has it's own market and this market is not as good as .com ofcourse. But again, i would never ever sell my names for the next 2 years at least, but i forced to sell them. Generic names with ANY extention have a value no matter which extention.

07-22-2008, 07:30 PM	#16 (permalink)
Keith Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: "D" town Posts: 3,430	No rush to sell mobis. The next year or two will pay dividends for those who hold onto their primos!

07-22-2008, 08:09 PM	#17 (permalink)
snoop New User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 5,072	The ship is gradually sinking, I wouldn't expect any second coming. I think this extension will see .info like prices long term. Best prices you will see is right now in my view.

07-23-2008, 07:14 AM	#21 (permalink)
mjnels Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Sunny Florida Posts: 2,181	my .mobi aftermarket prediction: second coming = 2010. and it wont be the kind of second coming people are expecting.. i dont think prices will be anywhere near the bubble prices that led up from landrush till early this year. __________________ :\|

07-23-2008, 07:37 AM	#23 (permalink)
mjnels Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Sunny Florida Posts: 2,181	i also noticed the examples in the OP's post... heh heh their two examples seem to have just been registered at the beginning of 2008.... i do not know much about .com valuations but i do know .mobi and these are reg-fee names in the current market and foreseeable future. __________________ :\|

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