Galel

Any time a .mobi is seen, it's like the 2nd coming of Jesus:

"Oh man! I saw _____.mobi, and wanted to take a picture of it, but I missed my chance!"

If it really is going to be the standard for mobile Internet - where are all the sites? The only mobi site I see regularly is FoxNews.mobi, and every time they introduce it it's so awkward:

"For mobile news, go on your mobile device to Fox News.mobi - that's MOBEY - M-O-B-I."

If you go on Google and type "mobile internet," how many times do you think ".mobi" shows up on the page? Any guesses? A big fat ZERO. None. Not even an AD for a .mobi site.

So I decided to start thinking like the "Average Joe" - I have a Blackberry and I want to find sites that are compatible with my device. I search: mobile websites blackberry - A few mobi sites, right? No. A big fat ZERO.

Instead:
www.npr.org/mobile
www.google.com/mobile/
www.eamobile.com/blackberry/
mobile.blackberry.com/
mobile.yahoo.com/blackberry

Google is part owner of .mobi for goodness sakes! What the heck are they thinking?

Search "mobile websites" - how many .mobi? Only 1. That's it.

Is this why every time a .mobi appears it's like we saw Bigfoot, or the Loch Ness Monster?

I would love to hear your thoughts, and would like to try to be convinced that .mobi is actually worthwhile, because right now I just hear a big fat toilet bowl flushing. I do have an open mind.

I just need some logical arguments and proof.

cosmicray

Some people can't handle the truth. ... if a few hundred more tlds come
into the domain space mobi will drown before it gets any more attention.

PVFARKAS

Participating in thie subforum is too high of a lost opportunity cost for me. That's my personal proof. Enjoy!

thebiffenator

You will find some good answers to your questions here GF and cosmic

why.mobi

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hawkeye

Here's a better turn off - People that don't invest or have any interest in the extension, constantly deriding it and the investors of it, for no other purpose than to 'antagonize' and act as if they know something moreso than anyone else does.

Be honest GF, you're not looking for 'logical arguments and proof' as they've been posted numerous times. If you were, you and others would assess them as such they are, and say - 'yes, no, maybe, or not for me' and move on accordingly. But instead, those that don't like the extension, just feverishly work at finding something they can latch on to, like the 'iphone' or 'new technology' or 'it's 4 letters', and stay with that one point to 'justify' their disdaining pov's, and disavow all other points of it's need/potential. It has basically turned into a "I know more than you do, because I've been doing this for 6 months now, and now know everything on domains and the future" tit-for-tat.

If you had invested in something that everyone says 'No One Is Using It', I'm sure you'd would also point out "oh yes they are, look". (try posting anything negative about idn's around RubberDuck, and watch his retorts.) But naysayer logic here is to not only deride, but complain on these sighting notations (of something they don't invest in), which are really just answers to those that say 'they aren't being used!' They are!! This has really turned into a 'childs' tit-for-tat by those that don't like/agree with the .mobi extension and own none, constantly cramming the mobi threads with their disdain and 'superior knowledge'. It's like not liking brocoli, and then going to a broccoli farm to insult the farmers that grow it!! Proof of those that have no life or common sense!! And a show of one's 'true character'.

We all have invested in some area of domaining, whether it be in extensions, LLLLs, Geo's, Generics, whatever's. You don't see others bashing and deriding them. But 'for some reason', there is a abundance of ridicule to those that have invested in .mobi, and the majority of it comes from those that don't own or want to own any. Go Figure.

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Ross

Honestly that site only refers and applies to phones that use WAP browsing.

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thebiffenator

Speaking about FLushing....Here is a great Mobile site, you can add it to the list...This ones for free johny.mobi

I created this site to entertain people on the toilet wheather its sports or even contests or their own interest. And the site is in its begining stages, and gaining momentum every day. How many coporate people go to the bathroom and use there phone to escape the boss?

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Galel

Actually, Hawkeye - I own MANY .mobi domains. The reason I ask for a logical, persuasive argument in favor of .mobi is because everything is RHETORIC. It's all "fluff." Give me the meat and potatoes. Show me numbers, show me FACTS, not fluff.

I thought I'd been doing a good job of not speaking "fluff" around here.

dag

That's not correct...if you read it through it enumerates all the points that make .mobi useful, regardless of what mobile device you're using.

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Ross

I can load that site just as quick on my phone as i can weather.com. For me it does not matter. Same as most "mobile internet users". These consist of mostly people that have smart phones or phones that do not utilize WAP browsers but full browsers.

How many times has your mom used her flip phone for the internet?

LMAO! I just might go purchase a .mobi and make a site just because of that site. Thanks for that thebiffenator !

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thebiffenator

Anytime, like I said its at its begining stages, and will only get better, I am actuly gona do a wet t-shirt contest (or It could be a Milf T-shirt contest?) at my local bar one of these days, and will have them photos. Another great advantage of the mobile web/.mobi is that everyone has a camera pretty much on their phone.

So my motive with my .mobi sites is to work around the present technology of the phone. Now all phones are different but they all have the same screen size (pretty much.)

Now tell me what is better. Go to Johny.mobi or go to some heavily spamed site that takes longer to load then taking a crap. Pretty much the common Joe doesnt know where to go on the phone....But like I said it is changeing.
Check out find.mobi

Sorry for the edit:

But on find.mobi type in these keywords "Tee Off" "Pharmacy" "Note Pad" "Jesus" these are only a few words. But if you notice. My sites are all on the page, some the top and some in the middle, but there on the first page.

I was aware of this and how powerful it will be, so thats why I created my sites last year. All I am trying to say is that "times are a changing " Bob Dylon"

Either go with the flow or get left in the past. How many people wished they regged a dot com back in the mid 90's?

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hawkeye

If you own MANY .mobi's and you still need to be 'convinced' as to why, that's not too encouraging there... Be interesting to see your list. All I can say is, if you still need to hear the 'meat and potatoes' for .mobi to justify your investments, perhaps you should try a different food group.

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coast

If you own .mobi sites, try developing them and doing some decent seo. The reason no .mobi sites came up on google for the keyword string you typed in is that nobody is optimizing for that search string with .mobi, or if they are, they don't have enough backlinks to compete with the pages on the top. Also, blackberry is a trademark and google is likely to knock sites out of contention that are using someone else's trademark. This is less about .mobi and more about seo.

Try typing "skandinavia mobi" which is the Scandinavian spelling of the word. Four of the top 5 results are .mobi sites, wapedia.mobi and skandinavia.mobi. Had the site owners wanted to, they could have optimized for skandinavia mobile instead.

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Galel

Yes - I want to be convinced as to why I should continue to own them. Why should I register them?

If you have a problem with me asking for reasoned thoughts regarding this subject I suggest you read another thread.

So much for trying to have an intelligent conversation about this... This is why .Mobi Kool-Aid drinkers are looked at cock-eyed. The moment you're questioned about it you get uptight and offended, trying to turn it around on the person asking the questions.

hawkeye

I don't have a problem with you asking, but I wouldn't expect too many 'please resell me on my investment' replies, as it's all been said so many times before, over and over!! And rehashes just lead to flame wars here. May I suggest you read those previous threads. And also may I suggest you check out the other .mobi related forum, for none flamatory and very useful insights and info on the extension.

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Galel

LOL you made me laugh. If you're in Hollywood, CA I'll drive up the 405 and give you a hug.

I've been to the other .mobi related forum, and frankly - I think it sucks. This is the place to be! There are more people here, and you can actually debate ideas. I figured I'd start a thread on my terms, with my questions, and see if it can remain civil.

Trolls aren't allowed in this thread, and if they show up I'll cut them.

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dag

Obviously you haven't read the site...speed is only one factor. And what do you really know about "most" mobile users' download speed compared to yours anyway?

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skeitel

This book is free for the moment. You can find facts and numbers there, if you are really interested:
http://trendinews.com/download-mobil...-javier-marti/

Galel

Now THIS is what I'm talking about!! Thanks skeitel!!

DBADT2007

GF:
I'm not offended by your remarks. But I will ask you a question.
If you're not convinced after all the points that have been made, why not sell them in the secondary market and recoup your investment? (Actually, this question goes to all individuals that are invested in .mobi and that are having second thoughts.)

I'm sure that all, if not most, of the .mobi supporters would be happy to acquire your .mobi domains, if we see potential with the word/words in the domains, and then you can reinvest in .com or anything that you believe in that has more potential.

I'm asking genuinely out of curiosity, and no offense meant to anyone.
-DBADT2007

hawkeye

I am, and a handshake will do. But thanks for the thought.

Not by any means, and for .mobi, very enlightening.

For .mobi..., not any more unfortunately.

Yes, he is prohibited from posting here in the mobi forum threads.



...and the beat goes on...

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onassis

dot com and dot mobi set as an example for milk and coffee. If you a investor who only drink coffee. Will you invest in milk, the answer is no.

For me, I love both. Be a winner accept both.

The world always love the winner.

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labrocca

I haven't heard this. Are you sure about that? Lots of rumors exist about Mobi but as far as I know...mTLD owns mobi and it has "backers" which is a term that has yet to be defined. We don't know if the backers own anything, have invested money, made promises, or just allowed mTLD to name them.

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coast

I am a .mobi supporter but I do not believe the tld is for everyone.

Here are two instances where you should re-register the names, assuming they are decent names in the first place based on the keyword and not the tld:

1.) Renew the names if you plan to develop them, for example, an actual end-user style business plan or content that a person would care about on a phone. Any name is worth something with traffic.

2.) The keyword has a significant number of daily (wordtracker) or monthly (overture) searches, or they are LLL or other names that makes sense and you can safely renew without damaging your overall finances.

If you have names where nobody cares about the keyword in any tld, you may be better off dropping the names. Of course, if you have a made up brandable name or something with a trend that is just starting these would be exceptions and you could renew those.

Otherwise, send it to auction, sell it on the forums, or drop them if the renewal fees are too high for you.

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24HourDomainer

From what I read, it sounds like you own non premium dot mobis. You are raising the same question, that has been raised over a thousand times. Foolish of you, to even start a thread...

Individuals like you who registered $HIT dot mobi domains, are the ones complaining about the investment. It does not matter if dot mobi is the front face of mobile internet or not... what matters is what you catched during land rush. As a Domainer, if you failed to take advantage of premium dot mobis, then my dear friend... you are not a smart domainer... insted you probably registered $HITY combinations of letters or words, that have no value!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What do you expect dot mobi too rise to Power in 2-5 years.... seriously take a Break and have a Kit Kat...... Dot mobi or any other extension, who competes in the Domain Industry.. .will have to serve for 10 Years minimum, to get a real understanding and outlook of the investment!

Myself and others who invested in Premium Dot Mobis, are sitting and laughing at fools who registered $HIT - If I sell one Dot Mobi domain today in auction mode in Sedo... Im guranteed my money back for 100 dot mobis I registered and a 8000% Profit minimum. Reg Fee during land rush was only $60 US

Stop crying about your silly mistakes... DOT MOBI is not for Short Term investors who want to turn AbdulMustafaKarimJr.mobi into a profit!

Get Real and face the fact, if you lost your chance in land rush.. then stop complaining. Dot Mobi may have a role in the mobile revolution or not... what matters end of the day... IS..... what I can sell as a Domainer.

Stop crying, and start focusing on what you can do with .com - most of you who cry about dot mobi.. dont even own a premium .com

Who are you to judge whats right or not.... Dot mobi or not, the Domain Industry is about Profit!!! If you cant find it, then move on and find it in another industry!

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