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Old 05-12-2008, 02:15 AM   ˇ #1
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Was just a visitor for two weeks..time to go back and wanted to leave this thead behind to stir up some controversy.

Favorite letters in LLLL domains are HQ either as the last two or the first two. HQ is universally understood to be Headquarters and the textbook definiton is " the center of operations and administration "

Most LLLL domains are something where we have to try and figure out what would go with it. But by using HQ, you have solved 1/2 of the equation already. So, now whoever buys your domain only has to figure out the other two letters of significant meaning.

For exampe: IThq.mobi can be Information Technology Headquarters, as well as Italy Headquarters which would make a great portal site for eveything about Italy.

And to all who are constantly touting that domain names for .mobi must be intuitive because it will be type-in traffic. Not really.

It needs to be short enough and memorable enough to get them to the site and then they can save it in their favorites. 4 letter short domains that are easily understood may be " dumbing down " the mobile Internet but was anyone going to use it for the typing experience?

So, is it better to have InformationTechnology.mobi or IThq.mobi?

If the short line gets you there, has suitable content for your needs and you can bookmark it, why worry about typing informationTechnology? Thumb exercise? Phiilippines.mobi or PHhq.mobi? It really is a simple question to answer.

Can't ZWhq.mobi be a domain for a recycikng company at ZeroWaste Headquarters or is it a portal used as Zimbabwe Headquarters?

These type of domains can define a business, country or a Continent: Surely, most people could imagine AUhq.mobi as representative of the great land Downunder.

Isn't the Internet and text-messaging fraught with abbreviation? So, why cant HQop.mobi stand for Headquarters of....Poker or Porn?

I examined this coding system and bught some 100 domains that are the official coutry code followed by HQ. They can also be used as short identities for an existing business. UA the country code for the Ukraine can easily be a portal for somene who wants to build one using the abrreviated UAhq.mobi

However, United Artists, the film making giant, presenty uses unitedartsists.com. Perhaps, UAhq.mobi is of some value to them now, as the Internet develops.

So, let your creativity run wild with the letter combination of HQ in the back or on the front. Think of companies whose identity you can capture without trademark infringement. Quite frankly. HQ as half the make up of the domain, will usually solve that problem for you because very few compnaies are trademarked by 2 letters.

Go acquire some to sell to someone wanting to buld a portal for a country, as portals generate significant traffic.

I only took 100, so that leaves about 145 companies.

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Old 05-12-2008, 07:42 PM   ˇ #2
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HQ is okay but not something most companies use.
This same idea would also work for CO for company, UK for united kingdom ect...
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Old 05-12-2008, 09:18 PM   ˇ #3
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Nice write-up -- and I agree 100%!

A .mobi, just like a .com can be made into something extraordinary if the owner is willing to put in the work (read as: develop).

Just look at NamePros as an example -- it's a good name, I'd register it if it weren't registered, but would I pay thousands for it undeveloped? Developed, I think anyone on this board would

HQ is a great example of taking much of the difficulty out of branding a domain (ZWHQ was a great example!). I'm a big fan of certain letters as well for their similar ability to reduce branding difficulties -- eg. "O" for online, or "I" for incorporated.
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Old 05-12-2008, 09:30 PM   ˇ #4
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I like the "**CU" just as you like the "**HQ".

CU: Credit Union ^_^

But I most focus on severals of the CVCV.mobi with "CU" as the second "CV".
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Old 05-14-2008, 11:23 AM   ˇ #5
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Right on the HQ not being predominantly used but these are not to replace a compay identity, they are to augment it.

Why can't M&M also have mmHQ.mobi rout into their regulat site?

Reece: These can work and be branded

CineseThinker: That CU is an outstanding concept, completely overloked that. Go get 'em guys.

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P.S. If you want to see resistance, get over to the mobility.mobi forum. I have them all shook up over there.
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Old 05-14-2008, 01:52 PM   ˇ #6
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P.S. If you want to see resistance, get over to the mobility.mobi forum. I have them all shook up over there.


You give yourself way too much credit. The only "resistance" at Mobility is to your half-baked ideas about branding versus generics, apparent lack of understanding about potential trademark issues, and self-promotional multiple posts. All you're trying to do is create a new "hot" market to boost the value of the 100-domain "__HQ.mobi" portfolio you've created.

Of course you can brand anything. But if you're looking to sell these domains to companies for large amounts, they could easily come up with another brandable name for reg fee (or at least a lot less money) that they can brand just as well. Plus you'd be liable to lose them in bad faith legal decisions if you approached them about these domains.

Let's see how you're doing with these in a few years. I'll be pretty surprised if you've sold any of them to an end user in that time. The only companies that will be interested are those who actually have "Headquarters" as part of their name, and you'll have to wait for them to come to you if you don't want to lose the domain.
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400 HQ's NOT 100

Apparently, you can't read but that is your problem. HQ is not a replacing identity it is augmented short one that routs to the same company site. As far as approaching companies with their identities from similar initials, we have better legal counsel than someone dressed like a Jedi-kinght or whatever that avatar get up is.

So skip back over to the Kingdom of DomainTalkAlot and keep blowing smoke up each others______.

As a matter fact, you can cut and paste this there if you want because you were going to do it anyway.

Now be a good little boy and get back to your laser-sword.

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P.S. Apologies. Under a magnifying glass I see you are not a Jedi..just a Muppet. Much more appropriate.
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Originally Posted by MaguirePhD
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HQ is not a replacing identity it is augmented short one that routs to the same company site.



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Sales data from LLLL.coms suggests that not only HQ, but other popular acronyms like, UK, RX, MD, CA, DR, etc considerably outsell similar domains without those letters.

Strong ending letters A (America, Associates, Association, etc), C (Company, Corporation, Center, etc), I (incorporated, industries), L (Limited), O (online) sell at considerable premiums to equally strong premium letters with little commercial applicability as an ending letter.
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P.S. Apologies. Under a magnifying glass I see you are not a Jedi..just a Muppet. Much more appropriate.



OMG. Now that I admit was funny I'm sorry, I'll leave now.
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Originally Posted by MaguirePhD
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400 HQ's NOT 100

Apparently, you can't read but that is your problem. HQ is not a replacing identity it is augmented short one that routs to the same company site. As far as approaching companies with their identities from similar initials, we have better legal counsel than someone dressed like a Jedi-kinght or whatever that avatar get up is.

So skip back over to the Kingdom of DomainTalkAlot and keep blowing smoke up each others______.

As a matter fact, you can cut and paste this there if you want because you were going to do it anyway.

Now be a good little boy and get back to your laser-sword.

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P.S. Apologies. Under a magnifying glass I see you are not a Jedi..just a Muppet. Much more appropriate.


400 makes it even more apparent that this is completely self-serving.

Go right ahead and make fun of me if you think that helps make you seem like the knowledgeable and clever Internet entrepreneur that you must be. That's what all intelligent and insightful people do to get their point across, after all, isn't it? Make fun of people? Belittle those who don't agree with them? Especially when you're new to the neighborhood. Smart move.

And no, I was most certainly not going to waste time or space cutting and pasting anything you've said above.

P.S. Muppets are way cooler than Jedis any day.


Originally Posted by Reece
Sales data from LLLL.coms suggests that not only HQ, but other popular acronyms like, UK, RX, MD, CA, DR, etc considerably outsell similar domains without those letters.

Strong ending letters A (America, Associates, Association, etc), C (Company, Corporation, Center, etc), I (incorporated, industries), L (Limited), O (online) sell at considerable premiums to equally strong premium letters with little commercial applicability as an ending letter.


That's certainly true with .COMs, Reece, but I'm sure that the majority of those sales are still reseller sales, not end user, and that was my point.

How many end users do you know of that actually use an LLLL with "hq" at the end, though?
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That's certainly true with .COMs, Reece, but I'm sure that the majority of those sales are still reseller sales, not end user, and that was my point.

How many end users do you know of that actually use an LLLL with "hq" at the end, though?



Zero.

But then again, I can name you more endusers that use .mobi than that use .net... Maybe domainers have everything backwards
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Hey Maguire, pedaling your 'Everone will want a xxHQ.mobi domain, because you are going to convince them it's a great identifying and branding concept, worth the high dollars you decide they're worth' theory here too!!?! Can't everyone see it now, multiple companies will pay him 'big bucks' for these xxHQ.mobi domains, so they will.....uh... all have clone domains?? Or is it to be part of a secret business club where they all have 'HQ' in their domains names?!?!? 3-400 businesses with 'HQ' in their domain!!! Before you go trashing the other forum, like the bull in a new china store newbie you are presenting yourself as, why not 'explain' your great concept in detail and your 'reasonings why' it's a great concept in full as you did there, and not just a few line summary of a 'what if' idea.

You might want to add in how.. as you were touting the 'HQ' in domain names idea in one thread, your sister was posting on getting inquiries on one of these (and I quote-) "...it's nice to know that HQ has the appeal..." HQ names she just regged 10 days prior, in another thread!!! Can one say 'pump it'?

Nice and tactful with the Kingdom of DomainTalkAlot comment. Tell us again... how many names have you sold so far???
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OMG. Now that I admit was funny I'm sorry, I'll leave now.



I was partly buying his argument until he went into the juvenile insults which seemed out of place for a Ph D...then I remembered he is all about BRANDING so in his case that must mean PHony Doctor
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Phiilippines.mobi or PHhq.mobi? It really is a simple question to answer.


I'd take Philippines.mobi over PHhq.mobi anyday, but I'd take Philippines.com over both.
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