All Domainers: Rumor - .mobi useless because a .com can detect & redirect to a mobile
All Domainers: Rumor - .mobi useless because a .com can detect & redirect to a mobile
Nuh uh
Generally (guessing: unless you want to code for every phone that will ever come out in the entire world)
!.) You have PCsite.com
2.) You can either
a.) put a redirect to a mobile version
b.) not put a redirect to a mobile version
if A: Users with device capable phones will be forced redirected to a smaller mobile site and WILL BE UNABLE to view the full PC version site "on the go".
if B: Users with phone devices that can not read the entire PC webpage will not be able to view your site.
This is why the redirect argument has largely failed so far.
Can you name 10 "FULL" Dot Com sites using .com mobile re-directs?
Forced mobile re-directs on the .com are not being used because of the need to preserve the whole pc site in-tact for those devices that can see it..
Thus, the most likely scenario is that world phones will have a choice between the preserved whole .com original site (if phone-capable) or a mobile, easier navigatable, small screen internet through "M." or "/mobile" or a ".mobi" domain (phone-capable)
* Most phones still don't have internet, so this is all truly speculation.
I might not completely understand, because Ive never had to use this, but as far as I know, a simple line of code can redirect a mobile user to a mobalized site.
Of course, the .mobi ("dot Mobey") extension is unnecessary (and, increasingly, obsolete given new and emerging mobile technologies) ... and other than some h.y.p.e. and "reported sales", it is wholly ignored by corporate End users insofar as acquiring and developing and promoting generic / keyword domains into unique and compelling "on the go" websites! What happened to the RFP process? Tick. Tock.
What is the specific status of the mTLD 6-month development requirements mandate?
PS. Perhaps this thread and discussion ... would best be continued in the #1 Namepros .MOBI Forum, as well.
-Jeff
Code can redirect the user to a mobile ready version of a site. Unfortunately, one single line of code doesn't do the job for all devices all the time. Some phones may be redirected and some may not, depending on the code and how up to date it is. Also, some users may not want to be redirected, so it is not as simple of a solution as it might seem.
Probably best to have simple home page that says 'enter website' or 'enter mobile site' in very light code as the home page that way people can choose with ease and no redirect code is necessary
Many established businesses are using .com redirects with code, but MOBI gives opportunities for new businesses to establish their brands with that extension.
Also, many established businesses have decided to go with the .mobi extension. Probably the biggest news in my opinion is foxnews going with .mobi and from the number of threads here on the subject they are actively promoting it on tv.
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Please either delete Jeff's post or edit. He is stating something that is not true and proven not to be true. There are many corporations who have chosen to use .mobi. It's fine if you don't like it but state facts, it only makes you look like you don't know what your talking about. Not saying you aren't intelligent and have made wise investment decisions. But again, state the FACTS!
In no way am I remotely suggesting "all", the mobile web has a long way to go, let alone the .mobi extension.
I think he is referring to "corporate" end users buying generics for development not corporations developing .mobis for their already existing websites. At least I think that it is his arguement although I don't see that it holds much merit.
You don't really see "corporate" end users going after generics in the .com even. Heck, look at pizza.com, none of the major pizza chains has gone after it until this point and even this recent sale could have been to another domainer. Pretty much all the major sites out there are brandables that were probably purchased for reg fee.
A domain serves two functions - to link/connect to a website,
and to provide information to potential website visitors. Whatever happens to the technology the name of the website conveys information.
A .com at the end conveys only the information that the website is on the internet. A .mobi conveys that the website is intended specifically for mobile use. With the need for short, concise names for websites increases in the mobile realm (tiny keyboards) then the value of that "mobi" information to the right of the dot - for mobile centered uses - is very great.
Look it's like this. Besides .mobi guaranteeing a mobile friendly site there's more. Sure..You can design your .com site to re-direct to a mobile specific version as soon as it detects a mobile accessing the site. Fine. No problem.
But now picture this scenario:
Company is relatively new and does not have a .com site ( the domain it wants is taken already) So the .Mobi domain is the answer. It can be viewed by both PC and Mobile.
There is only 1 .com for any given name and there are many companies wanting to use that given name. Ie: Apple.com So the guy who is an apple farmer cant use Apple.com. He can use .net or .info or .biz but he does not really want any of those and anyway they are also taken already. So Apple.mobi is the answer as it offers both Pc and Mobile access and is just as INTERNATIONAL as .com
Even guys who have sites ending in a country tld like .NL, .CO.UK, .DE and so forth will find .Mobi a nice alternative to have as the mobile web becomes more of a reality.
I suppose country extensions could also use device detection or the .M method but again there are more companies in any given country that would like to use a domain name but find it's already taken. Here again the .Mobi domain gives them the possibility to go online with an extension that will give them a Pc and mobile compatible site.
This is why .Mobi is NOT obsolete. It just needs to be marketed properly and get brought into the limelight more.
Last edited by binaryman : 04-14-2008 at 04:34 AM.
Media, I like to think that Jeffs posts serve us better in their original format... his claims & comments are becoming increasingly out of line with current media trends & one only has to look at the huge number of big, corporate & media dotmobi sites to realise that Jeffs thinking is as outdated as the Ark!
If we edit his messages I fear that would serve to make him appear to be less obviously stupid than he manages to make himself look ;-)
Jeff offers some balance in these discussions... as there will always be a place for humour on these forums & you can't deny that he posts volumes of his own variety of jokes!
I think that one of the advantages of .mobi is the psichological association to a circumstance, not only a technology. The user will choose .mobi site because he perceibes it's more appropiate to the kind of terminal he uses and where he is
dot mobi is not web site for mobile terminals
is web site optimized for a agile access anywhere, eliminating the superfluous
I bought pomegranate,mobi off Yelo last year with the intention of developing it (still am, but need to find some free time!).
Pomegranate is a great 1 word domain which has instant recognizability in the health food and designer drink market, where it represents a $100M+ annual market.
Estibot suggests Pomegranate.com as being worth $120,000 -- I wouldn't doubt a major player in the pomegranate industry like Pom Wonderful would be anything but ecstatic to snatch it up at that price...
So .mobi won't ever be .com?
I sure hope the next time I want to design a little mini-site (like I have planned for this one) I don't have to cough up $100,000+ like I'd have to for a half-decent dictionary word .com...
I renewed my 100 strongest .mobis and don't have any intention of dropping any of these come renewal time next year. Most of them are strong category or product defining names like antioxidant, pomegranate, ginseng. I couldn't imagine what many of these names would cost in dotcom...
I inquired about getting several of them in .info and each domain was quoted in the $1000-$10,000+ range. Plenty of small businesses don't have $10,000 -- nevermind $100,000 to spend on a domain name...
For a new, mobile-only business, what's wrong with dotmobi?
All Domainers: Rumor - .mobi useless because a .com can detect & redirect to a mobile 
