Mobi bashers and Naysayers

noonoo1 · 11-11-2007, 01:43 AM

PLease could all mobi bashers and naysayers please read and weep.

IBM

This link has been provided by a fellow mobist.

Thanks it has been repaired.

bricio · 11-11-2007, 02:12 AM

hi noonoo1,

you need to fix the link

please, fix it very quickly cause i want to read it ASAP
BTW, i love .mobi

onassis · 11-11-2007, 02:25 AM

What the big news, my mobi folks!!

I guess that the haters will be crying now

and queue up to enquiry premium mobi from all of us.

noonoo1 · 11-11-2007, 02:47 AM

Repaired the link now.

bricio · 11-11-2007, 02:54 AM

Originally Posted by noonoo1

Repaired the link now.

thank you

-REECE- · 11-11-2007, 03:06 AM

Great read.. Thank you

Pretty much sums up what all of us .mobi fans believe -- that mobile is gonna be HUGE

Pred · 11-11-2007, 03:12 AM

anyone care to highlight the good bits? as its 28 pages long

cheers

-REECE- · 11-11-2007, 03:16 AM

Originally Posted by arnie

anyone care to highlight the good bits? as its 28 pages long

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/dot-mobi/394554-mobi-bashers-and-naysayers.html
cheers

If you ctrl+F and keyword "mobile", you get most of the goodies. Some nice graphs and stuff about how the mobile web is expected to grow, how younger adults are going to be the main early adopters, how advertising will be changing dramatically over the next few years,... Well worth the read

nano.vc · 11-11-2007, 04:26 AM

Interesting.

Keith · 11-11-2007, 05:51 AM

Originally Posted by Reece

If you ctrl+F and keyword "mobile", you get most of the goodies. Some nice graphs and stuff about how the mobile web is expected to grow, how younger adults are going to be the main early adopters, how advertising will be changing dramatically over the next few years,... Well worth the read

No question that it will be the youth who will catapult the mobile web
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into the mainstream. I believe it is happening and will continue to unfold
at an astounding rate.

hedgefund · 11-11-2007, 06:04 AM

great research from IBM.

sdsinc · 11-11-2007, 06:09 AM

Nothing new under the sun.
While it can be expected that mobile usage will continue to grow that does not equate to a .mobi surge (except in your dreams).
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If I am correct there are fewer than 600,000 .mobi registered presently and there have been a lot more .com names registered over the past year than .mobi so the gap is clearly widening.
I don't think dotmobi is proud of these figures. You won't find live registrations stats on their site either. Instead they prefer to cloud the issue with more 'favorable' stats like number of web pages:

Quote:

We have more than ten times as many pages being indexed today than we did back at the start of the year.

http://dotmobi.typepad.com/dotmobi/2...not-convi.html

I know it sounds pessimistics but if businesses are not rushing in to reserve their name under .mobi now it is a sign.
Even if you think .mobi is going to be successful get real in your expectations and keep in mind it will be a tiny market at best.
The figures don't lie.

noonoo1 · 11-11-2007, 01:03 PM

I love you guys,

Mobi Cheap · 11-11-2007, 03:41 PM

Originally Posted by sdsinc

...
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=394554
I know it sounds pessimistics but if businesses are not rushing in to reserve their name under .mobi now it is a sign.
...

Hey Kate, thank you for your thoughts.

Do stay with us - lately the supply of pessimistic views on .mobi has been way too low here, so I was starting to get worried.

All will be much clearer soon.

allnicksgone · 11-11-2007, 04:07 PM

Originally Posted by noonoo1

PLease could all mobi bashers and naysayers please read and weep.

IBM

I doubt there is anybody out there denying that the mobile web is coming and will be huge. That article only confirms what everybody knows.

"Mobi basher and naysayers" know the mobile web is coming. They believe it doesn't need .mobi. I am afraid this particular article does not prove them wrong. 28 pages and not a single mention of .mobi. How do you expect that to change the mind of .mobi haters?

Mobi Cheap · 11-11-2007, 04:15 PM

Originally Posted by allnicksgone

....
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=394554
...How do you expect that to change the mind of .mobi haters?

Perhaps noonoo1 was thinking of "Mobi Bashers and Naysayers 1.0" for whom a key argument was: "Why would I ever use the internet on my cellphone?"

Not sure what happened to those guys, do you think they changed their minds on .mobi?

snoop · 11-11-2007, 04:29 PM

Not sure this article has much to do with .mobi? Have the .mobi cheerleaders ever met a naysayer who doesn't think the mobile web will be big?

teabag · 11-11-2007, 04:42 PM

I don't know how to answer to this optimistic thread without bashing the MOBI optimism here:

The facts are:
-- Mobile web and mobile advertising going to be HUGE (that's an old news from at least 2004)
-- unfortunately, .MOBI isn't a "Mobile web" , at least NOT YET.
-- i do own almost 100 high quality names , mostly bought in Sep-Oct 2006, so , i'm not a hater, but mobi supporter.
-- i don't see how's IBM research makes my personal investment made last year so
valuable.
The only real value i see for the strong one-worders is - they are always good for SE.
Means, alot of time and money for development, means more investment and NO returns yet.

How many offers you get for your MOBI names per week if you don't mind to share ?
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=394554
I've got only 2 offers since last year

mjnels · 11-11-2007, 04:46 PM

Originally Posted by snoop

Have the .mobi cheerleaders ever met a naysayer who doesn't think the mobile web will be big?

actually yea... just a year ago i can remember this being argued on the forums.
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it wasnt like a common view, but i have read several posts from domainers that didnt think 'mobile internet' itself would be a very big deal.

snoop · 11-11-2007, 04:50 PM

Originally Posted by mjnels

actually yea... just a year ago i can remember this being argued on the forums.
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it wasnt like a common view, but i have read several posts from domainers that didnt think 'mobile internet' itself would be a very big deal.

I see, so it is a very small minority who think mobile internet won't be big.

mjnels · 11-11-2007, 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by snoop

I see, so it is a very small minority who think mobile internet won't be big.

you asked if i'd ever seen 'a person' that holds this view.. i have several times.. but no not a large percentage.

bachelor2000 · 11-11-2007, 06:20 PM

Originally Posted by allnicksgone

I doubt there is anybody out there denying that the mobile web is coming and will be huge. That article only confirms what everybody knows.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=394554

"Mobi basher and naysayers" know the mobile web is coming. They believe it doesn't need .mobi. I am afraid this particular article does not prove them wrong. 28 pages and not a single mention of .mobi. How do you expect that to change the mind of .mobi haters?

i have same doubt,the article doesn't mention dot mobi after all

sashas · 11-11-2007, 06:24 PM

no one in his right mind would deny that mobile web is the next thing.

But the question is, even if mobile web is big, that doesn't mean that .mobi will be. What incentive do I have, as a surfer, to go to a .mobi website than a .com. If the iPhone is the shape of future phones to come, then I can very well go to Yahoo.com and see the entire site the way its meant to be, than go to Yahoo.mobi and get just 10% of the experience. The majority still doesn't know about .mobi (or .tv, .us, .name, .ws...blah blah blah...they just know .com, .net, .org, and .edu). They will still be typing in Google.com into their mobile browsers, unless all the companies take major action to advertise their .mobi sites, which again seems unlikely since it'll be just non required expenditure for them.

namewaiter · 11-11-2007, 06:33 PM

Originally Posted by sashas

no one in his right mind would deny that mobile web is the next thing.

But the question is, even if mobile web is big, that doesn't mean that .mobi will be. What incentive do I have, as a surfer, to go to a .mobi website than a .com. If the iPhone is the shape of future phones to come, then I can very well go to Yahoo.com and see the entire site the way its meant to be, than go to Yahoo.mobi and get just 10% of the experience. The majority still doesn't know about .mobi (or .tv, .us, .name, .ws...blah blah blah...they just know .com, .net, .org, and .edu). They will still be typing in Google.com into their mobile browsers, unless all the companies take major action to advertise their .mobi sites, which again seems unlikely since it'll be just non required expenditure for them.

ATTENTION
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ATTENTION

.... he/she has all the answers, please don't respond to it.

finster · 11-11-2007, 06:35 PM

Originally Posted by sashas

no one in his right mind would deny that mobile web is the next thing.

But the question is, even if mobile web is big, that doesn't mean that .mobi will be. What incentive do I have, as a surfer, to go to a .mobi website than a .com. If the iPhone is the shape of future phones to come, then I can very well go to Yahoo.com and see the entire site the way its meant to be, than go to Yahoo.mobi and get just 10% of the experience. The majority still doesn't know about .mobi (or .tv, .us, .name, .ws...blah blah blah...they just know .com, .net, .org, and .edu). They will still be typing in Google.com into their mobile browsers, unless all the companies take major action to advertise their .mobi sites, which again seems unlikely since it'll be just non required expenditure for them.

Right. Mobile internet is a given. Hell I figure that someday the internet will be an neural implant or possibly even a genetic retrofit. But again that doesnt mean that .mobi will ever amount to anything remotely deserving the high valuations that are placed on it. Valuations that I have good reason to believe are about to be reevaluated by the market very very soon.

However I think the majority of people know what a .us is when they see it. Likewise with .tv and .co.uk and others. Probabaly most people will understand that a .mobi is a web address altho I bet it looks awfully strange to most of them too.

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11-11-2007, 03:06 AM	#6 (permalink)
-REECE- NamePros Expert Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 8,984	Great read.. Thank you Pretty much sums up what all of us .mobi fans believe -- that mobile is gonna be HUGE

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Pred Account Suspended Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 6,688	anyone care to highlight the good bits? as its 28 pages long cheers

11-11-2007, 04:26 AM	#9 (permalink)
nano.vc NamePros Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 26	Interesting.

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noonoo1 NamePros Regular Join Date: May 2007 Location: wild wales Posts: 643	I love you guys, __________________ Borneo dot xxx

11-11-2007, 04:29 PM	#17 (permalink)
snoop New User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,986	Not sure this article has much to do with .mobi? Have the .mobi cheerleaders ever met a naysayer who doesn't think the mobile web will be big?

11-11-2007, 04:42 PM	#18 (permalink)
teabag Account Suspended Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 157	I don't know how to answer to this optimistic thread without bashing the MOBI optimism here: The facts are: -- Mobile web and mobile advertising going to be HUGE (that's an old news from at least 2004) -- unfortunately, .MOBI isn't a "Mobile web" , at least NOT YET. -- i do own almost 100 high quality names , mostly bought in Sep-Oct 2006, so , i'm not a hater, but mobi supporter. -- i don't see how's IBM research makes my personal investment made last year so valuable. The only real value i see for the strong one-worders is - they are always good for SE. Means, alot of time and money for development, means more investment and NO returns yet. How many offers you get for your MOBI names per week if you don't mind to share ? ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=394554 I've got only 2 offers since last year

11-11-2007, 06:24 PM	#23 (permalink)
sashas Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Jaipur, India Posts: 3,101	no one in his right mind would deny that mobile web is the next thing. But the question is, even if mobile web is big, that doesn't mean that .mobi will be. What incentive do I have, as a surfer, to go to a .mobi website than a .com. If the iPhone is the shape of future phones to come, then I can very well go to Yahoo.com and see the entire site the way its meant to be, than go to Yahoo.mobi and get just 10% of the experience. The majority still doesn't know about .mobi (or .tv, .us, .name, .ws...blah blah blah...they just know .com, .net, .org, and .edu). They will still be typing in Google.com into their mobile browsers, unless all the companies take major action to advertise their .mobi sites, which again seems unlikely since it'll be just non required expenditure for them.

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