Using .mobi can prevent potential "m-dot" bloopers

acc · 08-30-2007, 09:35 AM

Note: My apologies to "mobility ex-pats" (a nice phrase coined by Badger in another thread here at NP) if you have already seen this.

Standardizing on using the .mobi domain for mobile web sites is a great and timely idea. The confusion of not having a standard and using the many subdirectory possibilities on existing extensions such as m.xxxx,ext or mobile.xxxx.ext or xxxx.ext/mobile etc can also present unintentioned consequences.

How many other companies and organizations can you think of that could be presented negatively or misrepresented by using the "m.webname.extension" format for their mobile content?

Here's a few interesting ones that could be avoided by going right to "webname.mobi" instead:

m.erde.ext
www.erde.fr = Erde is a french trailer manufacturer

m.ess.ext
www.ess.com = Enterprise Solution Services, Inc.
www.ess.net = Environmental Support Services, Inc.
www.ess.ca = Expanded Systems Services Ltd.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/dot-mobi/368230-using-mobi-can-prevent-potential-m.html

m.ass.ext
www.ass.org = adult site
www.ass.de = German furniture company

m.ate.ext
www.ate.net = Advanced Tech Enterprises, Inc.
www.ate.fr = Agences de Transactions Europeennes

m.ale.ext
www.ale.com = Acquisition Logistics Engineering
www.ale.org = Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
www.ale.fr = inkjet marking equipment manufacturer

m.uff.ext
www.uff.com = Trade Tech supply chain ASP
www.uff.ca = Unitarian Fellowship of Fredericton

m.ing.ext
www.ing.com = ING a financial services company
www.ing.org = Islamic Networks Group

m.ask.ext

m.iss.ext

m.ope.ext

m.angle.ext

m.align.ext

...etc ....

BocaVision · 08-30-2007, 09:46 AM

Well stated ACC!

m.Your m.intelligent, m.compelling m.illustration m.proves m.that m.the m.dots m.will m.ultimately m.vanish.

m.Michael

Jeff · 08-30-2007, 10:42 AM

Get Email, News, and Weather on the go at m.comcast.net

^ Comcast has adopted and is heavily promoting above, while "Comcast.mobi" sits idle ... please share your thoughts!

-Jeff

MobiMaven · 08-30-2007, 11:20 AM

Originally Posted by Jeff

Get Email, News, and Weather on the go at m.comcast.net

^ Comcast has adopted and is heavily promoting above, while "Comcast.mobi" sits idle ... please share your thoughts!

-Jeff

My thoughts are that you seem pretty happy about it. You also seem to enjoy any "mobile web" news/developments that don't involve .mobi, and you seem to take particular pleasure in pointing out real or imagined flaws in the ways that established companies develop and promote their mobi sites. That is just my observation, and I certainly don't have any problem with people taking positions that I don't agree with. But since you asked for us to share our thoughts.....................
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=368230

MM

Jeff · 08-30-2007, 11:23 AM

Originally Posted by MobiMaven

But since you asked for us to share our thoughts.....................

Greatly appreciated, I like to see the sharing and exchange of all opinions and observations IMHO.

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Have a nice Labor Day weekend.

-Jeff

namewaiter · 08-30-2007, 11:48 AM

Originally Posted by Jeff

Get Email, News, and Weather on the go at m.comcast.net

^ Comcast has adopted and is heavily promoting above, while "Comcast.mobi" sits idle ... please share your thoughts!

-Jeff

oops, just went to check it out at http://m.comcast.com
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=368230

like mm, my thoughts are someone is just trying to be an ass, pal!

Jeff · 08-30-2007, 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by namewaiter

oops, just went to check it out at http://m.comcast.com

like mm, my thoughts are someone is just trying to be an ass, pal!

^ You went to the wrong link/address, friend!

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=368230

See you soon.
-Jeff

BocaVision · 08-30-2007, 01:30 PM

Originally Posted by Jeff

Get Email, News, and Weather on the go at m.comcast.net

^ Comcast has adopted and is heavily promoting above, while "Comcast.mobi" sits idle ... please share your thoughts!

-Jeff

Concast?

Do you share their ethics, Jeffrey?

Heck, I bet soon Enron will be advertising menron.com while Adelphia will promote madelphia.com....

Jeffrey, you have lots of work to do my friend. Evidently, there is a very active Concast bashing thread that exists here at NamePros. I suggest you extinguish those Concast flames....immediately!...

Here is where this Concast hate-speech is happening....

http://www.namepros.com/industry-new...hlight=comcast

Jeffrey... also, digest this on this lovely New Hampshire day, here are delicious Wikipedia morsels regarding your beloved Concast or Comcast...
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=368230

Quote:

Comcast spends millions of dollars annually on government relationships.[7][8] Regularly Comcast employs the spouses, sons and daughters of influential mayors, councilmen, commissioners, and other officials to assure its continued local monopoly and preferred market allocations, many of which have been questioned as unethical.

A recent third party survey of citizens in a Comcast franchise area found approximately 62% of the respondents were very dissatisfied (along with another 25% who were dissatisfied) with the cost of cable television service.

Happy Thursday!

-Michael

Jeff · 08-30-2007, 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by BocaVision

Concast?

Do you share their ethics, Jeffrey?

Heck, I bet soon Enron will be advertising menron.com while Adelphia will promote madelphia.com....

Jeffrey, you have lots of work to do my friend. Evidently, there is a very active Concast bashing thread that exists here at NamePros. I suggest you extinguish those Concast flames....immediately!...

Here is where this Concast hate-speech is happening....

http://www.namepros.com/industry-new...hlight=comcast

Jeffrey... also, digest this on this lovely New Hampshire day, here are delicious Wikipedia morsels regarding your beloved Concast or Comcast...

Quote:

Comcast spends millions of dollars annually on government relationships.[7][8] Regularly Comcast employs the spouses, sons and daughters of influential mayors, councilmen, commissioners, and other officials to assure its continued local monopoly and preferred market allocations, many of which have been questioned as unethical.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=368230

A recent third party survey of citizens in a Comcast franchise area found approximately 62% of the respondents were very dissatisfied (along with another 25% who were dissatisfied) with the cost of cable television service.

Happy Thursday!

-Michael

^ Michael, what does any of that have to do with their use and promotion of m.comcast.net (the topic of this thread)?!?

I have no relationship whatsoever with Comcast™ ... and your question regarding, "Do you share their ethics, Jeffrey?" is both out of line, off topic, and highly unprofessional IMHO.

Thank you for understanding.
-Jeff

allnicksgone · 08-30-2007, 02:34 PM

Originally Posted by Jeff

Get Email, News, and Weather on the go at m.comcast.net
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=368230

^ Comcast has adopted and is heavily promoting above, while "Comcast.mobi" sits idle ... please share your thoughts!

-Jeff

I don't know the correct answer, but my guess is they started using and promoting m.comcast.net before anybody started using .mobi. Maybe they will change to .mobi when their m.comcast promoting has run it's course.

Do you know Comcast's specific long-term commitment to m. ?

Jeff · 08-30-2007, 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by allnicksgone

I don't know the correct answer, but my guess is they started using and promoting m.comcast.net before anybody started using .mobi. Maybe they will change to .mobi when their m.comcast promoting has run it's course.

Perhaps, thanks for the thoughtful and professional post!

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=368230

Quote:

Do you know Comcast's specific long-term commitment to m. ?

As I've tried to contact .MOBI corporate users, so too am I trying with Comcast™ (non-use of ™ .MOBI) ... not so much luck as yet, unfortunately. Would you like to help me, Allnick?

Thanks again.
-Jeff

scandiman · 08-30-2007, 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by Jeff

I have no relationship whatsoever with Comcast™ ...

So why do you promote them in your sig?

allnicksgone · 08-30-2007, 02:50 PM

Originally Posted by Jeff

As I've tried to contact .MOBI corporate users, so too am I trying with Comcast™ (non-use of ™ .MOBI) ... not so much luck as yet, unfortunately. Would you like to help me, Allnick?

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=368230

Thanks again.
-Jeff

In a couple years if everybody is using .mobi except comcast, then I will gladly help you.

Jeff · 08-30-2007, 02:56 PM

Originally Posted by allnicksgone

In a couple years if everybody is using .mobi except comcast, then I will gladly help you.

Fair enough, it's a deal!

Originally Posted by scandiman

So why do you promote them in your sig?

I had it in my Signature to illustrate that there are some corporations using and extensively promoting their respective "M Dots", as well as having a friend who actually uses that exact site for his email and news, etc.

After careful consideration, and for continued friendly dialogue here in the #1 Namepros .MOBI Forum™, I have removed it from my Nameporos Signature© IMHO.

Thanks again.
-Jeff

BocaVision · 08-30-2007, 03:02 PM

Originally Posted by Jeff

^ Michael, what does any of that have to do with their use and promotion of m.comcast.net (the topic of this thread)?!?

I have no relationship whatsoever with Comcast™ ... and your question regarding, "Do you share their ethics, Jeffrey?" is both out of line, off topic, and highly unprofessional IMHO.

Thank you for understanding.
-Jeff

Jeffrey, doth protest too much??

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Jeffrey, you invited me to share my thoughts, hence, I shared my thoughts....

Do you remember my friend??

Sweet Dreams,

Michael

Originally Posted by Jeff

Get Email, News, and Weather on the go at m.comcast.net

^ Comcast has adopted and is heavily promoting above, while "Comcast.mobi" sits idle ... please share your thoughts!

-Jeff

PVFARKAS · 08-30-2007, 03:03 PM

foget the .mobi revolution, jeff changed his signature. beers for everyone!!

allnicksgone · 08-30-2007, 03:04 PM

I wish I knew about m.comcast.net sooner, I have never seen it on the comcast.net home page. I think I found out about it in this forum. I now use it all the time to check my e-mail.

Jeff · 08-30-2007, 03:12 PM

Originally Posted by PVFARKAS

foget the .mobi revolution, jeff changed his signature. beers for everyone!!

Originally Posted by allnicksgone

I wish I knew about m.comcast.net sooner, I have never seen it on the comcast.net home page. I think I found out about it in this forum. I now use it all the time to check my e-mail.

Happy Days!

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=368230

Originally Posted by BocaVision

Jeffrey, doth protest too much??

Not really Michael, it's just that generally my thoughts & opinions regarding .MOBI don't agree with YOURS ... and rather than discuss the topic at hand you resort to, "Do you share their ethics, Jeffrey?".

This is highly unprofessional IMHO.

-Jeff

mjnels · 08-30-2007, 04:25 PM

jeff.. nobody cares what is highly unprofessional.

meegwell · 08-30-2007, 04:33 PM

so it's safe to say the ilf consulting, at ilf.com, would elect .mobi over m.

scandiman · 08-30-2007, 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by meegwell

so it's safe to say the ilf consulting, at ilf.com, would elect .mobi over m.

Depends what kind of consulting they do

seanboy · 08-30-2007, 06:24 PM

Originally Posted by allnicksgone

Do you know Comcast's specific long-term commitment to m. ?

lol

-REECE- · 08-30-2007, 06:44 PM

I think it's a no-brainer that comcast.mobi would better suit their purposes than m.comcast.com, unless they plan on undertaking a costly marketing effort. This just goes back to the question about standardization between the m-dots, /mobile, /m, ...

I'm not saying that .mobi will necessarily be the choice... It's obviously far too early to tell for sure, but I'd certainly say it's a much better choice than anything proposed to date. Who knows what the future will bring? Perhaps a more suitable contender will be found in the future, however as I see it now, it's either .mobi or browser detection scripts.

acc · 08-30-2007, 09:59 PM

Originally Posted by meegwell

so it's safe to say the ilf consulting, at ilf.com, would elect .mobi over m.

Exactly.

"m.ilf.com" might not be quite the business image they intended ...
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=368230

Any more examples of BAD form using the "m." format out there?

garrett200 · 08-30-2007, 10:15 PM

Originally Posted by allnicksgone

Do you know Comcast's specific long-term commitment to m. ?

Touche!!!!! You win for best one liner of the month!!

08-30-2007, 09:35 AM	THREAD STARTER #1 (permalink)
acc NamePros Regular Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 787	Using .mobi can prevent potential "m-dot" bloopers Note: My apologies to "mobility ex-pats" (a nice phrase coined by Badger in another thread here at NP) if you have already seen this. Standardizing on using the .mobi domain for mobile web sites is a great and timely idea. The confusion of not having a standard and using the many subdirectory possibilities on existing extensions such as m.xxxx,ext or mobile.xxxx.ext or xxxx.ext/mobile etc can also present unintentioned consequences. How many other companies and organizations can you think of that could be presented negatively or misrepresented by using the "m.webname.extension" format for their mobile content? Here's a few interesting ones that could be avoided by going right to "webname.mobi" instead: m.erde.ext www.erde.fr = Erde is a french trailer manufacturer m.ess.ext www.ess.com = Enterprise Solution Services, Inc. www.ess.net = Environmental Support Services, Inc. www.ess.ca = Expanded Systems Services Ltd. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/dot-mobi/368230-using-mobi-can-prevent-potential-m.html m.ass.ext www.ass.org = adult site www.ass.de = German furniture company m.ate.ext www.ate.net = Advanced Tech Enterprises, Inc. www.ate.fr = Agences de Transactions Europeennes m.ale.ext www.ale.com = Acquisition Logistics Engineering www.ale.org = Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts www.ale.fr = inkjet marking equipment manufacturer m.uff.ext www.uff.com = Trade Tech supply chain ASP www.uff.ca = Unitarian Fellowship of Fredericton m.ing.ext www.ing.com = ING a financial services company www.ing.org = Islamic Networks Group m.ask.ext m.iss.ext m.ope.ext m.angle.ext m.align.ext ...etc .... Last edited by acc; 08-30-2007 at 09:54 PM. Reason: Added bolding to text to emphasize point

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Jeff Emeritus Join Date: May 2003 Location: Winter Break© Posts: 29,508	Get Email, News, and Weather on the go at m.comcast.net ^ Comcast has adopted and is heavily promoting above, while "Comcast.mobi" sits idle ... please share your thoughts! -Jeff __________________ Be cool. Be polite. Be professional.™

08-30-2007, 09:46 AM	#2 (permalink)
BocaVision NamePros Regular Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Palm Beach Posts: 571	Well stated ACC! m.Your m.intelligent, m.compelling m.illustration m.proves m.that m.the m.dots m.will m.ultimately m.vanish. m.Michael

08-30-2007, 03:03 PM	#16 (permalink)
PVFARKAS Account Suspended Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 848	foget the .mobi revolution, jeff changed his signature. beers for everyone!!

08-30-2007, 03:04 PM	#17 (permalink)
allnicksgone NamePros Regular Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 665	I wish I knew about m.comcast.net sooner, I have never seen it on the comcast.net home page. I think I found out about it in this forum. I now use it all the time to check my e-mail.

08-30-2007, 04:25 PM	#19 (permalink)
mjnels Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Sunny Florida Posts: 2,171	jeff.. nobody cares what is highly unprofessional.

08-30-2007, 04:33 PM	#20 (permalink)
meegwell NamePros Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 197	so it's safe to say the ilf consulting, at ilf.com, would elect .mobi over m.

08-30-2007, 06:44 PM	#23 (permalink)
-REECE- NamePros Expert Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 8,984	I think it's a no-brainer that comcast.mobi would better suit their purposes than m.comcast.com, unless they plan on undertaking a costly marketing effort. This just goes back to the question about standardization between the m-dots, /mobile, /m, ... I'm not saying that .mobi will necessarily be the choice... It's obviously far too early to tell for sure, but I'd certainly say it's a much better choice than anything proposed to date. Who knows what the future will bring? Perhaps a more suitable contender will be found in the future, however as I see it now, it's either .mobi or browser detection scripts.

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