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Old 08-21-2007, 10:17 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Pay.mobi $50,000
Rooms.mobi $11,770
Cherche.mobi €5,000 = $6,738
222.mobi €4,756 = $6,411
Trademarks.mobi €2,937 = $3,958
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AWESOME!! This is pretty decent $ for a new ext. Hang on folks the trend is your friend!
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any one know why Cherche.mobi €5,000 = $6,738 went that high
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any one know why Cherche.mobi €5,000 = $6,738 went that high
Cherche means seek / search in French I believe, hence the price
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funny. i think cherche was good for the buyer. wow.
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Nice reported sales ... were "Pay", "Rooms", and "555" all sold by the same domainer, and also then purchased by one individual (according to Whois, XAvier Buck)? We all agree, I believe, of the importance of getting premium domains into the hands of End users / Developers, does anyone know of XAvier Buck and his/her/their specific development plans for these - and any other - purchased .MOBI's?
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Jeff just curious, what type and how many domain names do you own, and are any of them parked??
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They just bought it last month. What exactly did you expect? A full-blown, developed website where you can apply for a home loan?

I think it was a great buy for $25,000. Whoever bought that is going to be very happy a few years from now. IMHO, of course
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They just bought it last month. What exactly did you expect? A full-blown, developed website where you can apply for a home loan?
Actually, for that kind of money ... I would expect it (and, I believe mTLD still expects that with their coding requirements to ensure critical mobile content for Buyers' of .MOBI's, as well IMHO).
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Actually, for that kind of money ... I would expect it (and, I believe mTLD still expects that with their coding requirements to ensure critical mobile content for Buyers' of .MOBI's, as well IMHO).
Correct?

Link: www.realestate.mobi (reported sale RealEstate.mobi $85,000)

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Way to early IMHO to expect to see developed sites on these. We don't know what their plans are. Frankly, we don't know what the plans are for Flowers.mobi either, and it's too early to speculate on it.

It would be great if all three of these were developed and ready to go, but that's just not realistic Jeff, especially for one that was purchased a month ago.
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It would be great if all three of these were developed and ready to go, but that's just not realistic Jeff, especially for one that was purchased a month ago.
Fair enough, but what of the developed "ecosystem" ... and also adhering to .MOBI coding standards and compliance?

Also, going forward, if these purchases aren't going directly to End users / Developers ... how do we justify the following from mTLD, IYHO?

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Also, dotMobi will release 500 premium names -- yes, including sex.mobi -- through several venues. You can count on the fact that these valuable names will be sold and usable content will be created for the mobile consumer in the coming months. If you are a brand manager or a domainer, then you need to get ready for the sale of the dotMobi premium names. You also need to know how to build mobile content or you will not be an eligible buyer.
Under this guideline, is the buyer of realestate.mobi, for instance, currently an ineligible buyer (and, thus, now subject to forfeiture of the domain)?

Link: http://www.laptops.mobi (reported saled Laptops.mobi $4,750)

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Actually, for that kind of money ... I would expect it (and, I believe mTLD still expects that with their coding requirements to ensure critical mobile content for Buyers' of .MOBI's, as well IMHO).
Correct?
Dot Mobi is an extension like every other extension. A domain name is a domain name. The domain name owner (the one who put up their cash) decides when/if he/she will develop, park, promote, or do whatever with the name. And every time a .mobi name is sold/mentioned/ all the domain owners' plans, budgets, and schedules are not anyone's else's business - unless they decide to post such information.

And YES, the beauty of the dot-mobi extension is that right from the beginning and going forward the extension is made to be mobile compliant (and mobile user friendly) MORE THAN ANY OTHER TLD on the planet.


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Nice reported sales ... were "Pay", "Rooms", and "555" all sold by the same domainer, and also then purchased by one individual (according to Whois, XAvier Buck)? We all agree, I believe, of the importance of getting premium domains into the hands of End users / Developers, does anyone know of XAvier Buck and his/her/their specific development plans for these - and any other - purchased .MOBI's?
So what if one person/entity sold/purchased several names? So what if that person is a "domainer"? Domainers can develop/outsource websites too. That statement should read "We all agree that IN TIME, under the best of circumstances, it would be preferable to have many Dot Mobis developed." It would be nice if all dot-coms (which are umpteen years old) that are sitting unused or parked be developed with good content. But those will NOT likely be mobile-friendly content.

Before I have to see "it" again ... let me just say .... "Ecosystem-Shmecosystem"


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Fair enough, but what of the developed "ecosystem" ... and also adhering to .MOBI coding standards and compliance?

Also, going forward, if these purchases aren't going directly to End users / Developers ... how do we justify the following from mTLD, IYHO?



Under this guideline, is the buyer of realestate.mobi, for instance, currently an ineligible buyer (and, thus, now subject to forfeiture of the domain)?

Link: http://www.laptops.mobi (reported saled Laptops.mobi $4,750)

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"Casinos.mobi reported sale $52,000"

Link: http://www.casinos.mobi (score of "2" at Ready.mobi, "It will probably display very poorly on a mobile phone")!
Registrant Name: Rick Schwartz (same as Flowers.mobi (and you, of course, know the status of Flowers.mobi, IMHO).

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Rick said it himself... He builds ugly sites to get users of his names (hopefully clicking a link on the way out).

If mtld considers Rick the kind of buyer they're hoping to attract, then they might as well admit they were in fact cybersquatters... That reserving those names was in fact not for the collective good (aka a lame excuse on their part for profit maximization), and that they don't care whatsoever about the .mobi ecosystem, being concerned primarily with lining their pockets with the cash of those who have the most to spend on domains -- domainers.
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Rick said it himself... He builds ugly sites to get users of his names (hopefully clicking a link on the way out).

If mtld considers Rick the kind of buyer they're hoping to attract, then they might as well admit they were in fact cybersquatters... That reserving those names was in fact not for the collective good (aka a lame excuse on their part for profit maximization), and that they don't care whatsoever about the .mobi ecosystem, being concerned primarily with lining their pockets with the cash of those who have the most to spend on domains -- domainers.
Yeah that's it, game over, throw in the towels, it's all been one big waste of time and money for the last year, everyone has been scammed, the pundits (both of them) have called it!
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Caution ** Important **

Your fears are certainly warranted, Mr. Reece ... in fact, I think there are MANY right now wondering if this whole thing was just an mTLD "Money Grab", ITHO's?

The latest, the "eligible buyer" point, will be interesting to watch going forward ... equally as interesting as to exactly how, going both back and forward, the coding requirements and compliance measures will affect the likes of Flowers.mobi, Casinos.mobi, and so many other either undeveloped, parked, or unsatisfactory Ready.mobi score standards, IMHO.

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how about you just make a list of all those parked / undeveloped .coms we come across everyday
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I'm talking about "eligible buyer(s)" and coding requirements, friend!

An additional 500 premiums are coming ("within months") ... and they need to be developed (with "and usable content will be created for the mobile consumer")! Pronto.
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**DISCLAIMER** THIS IS INTENDED TO BE A WORST CASE SCENARIO -- SHOULD MTLD INTENTIONALLY MAKE MOST OF THESE PREMIUMS "DOMAINER PROPERTY". BECAUSE WE HAVE NO EVIDENCE OF THIS AT THIS TIME, THIS IS TO BE TAKEN AS PURELY CONJECTURE. LET US ALL HOPE MTLD IS AWARE OF THE POTENTIAL CONSEQUENCES (ELUCIDATED BELOW) OF A "WORST CASE SCENARIO" SITUATION.

Should these 500 or whatever amount of names be released simultaneously... This poses potential serious problems in the .mobi aftermarket should these names all (or mostly all) go to domainers. And before you argue with that point, I've brought it up in the past and it's been agreed with by even those wearing their pink glasses...

Let's elucidate this so that even those with pink glasses so thick they can't see through can see the point I'm trying to make here...

500 names sold ~ to domainers. Domainer A, B, C, ..., X,Y,Z,..., AA, AB, AC,..., SD, SE, SF. Let's pretend those abbreviations represent the domainers in question. This is assuming mtld has more sense than they perhaps do and imposes a limit on the amount of names a person can own to 1 auctioned domain.

So...

Domainer A tries to sell Sex.mobi for $1 mm. Domainer B is the proud owner of Porn.mobi. He decides to undercut the owner of Sex.mobi and list his for sale at $900k. This kind of behavior continues because nobody is interested in paying such high prices for .mobis.

So... They keep undercutting each other until they get to just above the prices paid at auction for these names -- say, around 400k. BUT and it's a BIG one... The market has taken a turn for the worst as of late. With a dozen premium adult names all up for sale simultaneously and mtld promising another 500 names being released shortly therafter, domainers are trying to sell these names to endusers... badly. Supply keeps on going up and up as mtld floods the market with more and more premiums, determined to milk as much money out of the extension before the Bubble bursts. Domainers begin undercutting each other and even themselves (the irony!) in an attempt to get these names sold, even accepting losses over what they paid for them. The mobile web is rapidly gaining steam... but with so many names to choose from, endusers just can't make up their mind and decide to settle for the cheaper ones, or wait until the market reaches a trough or at least some degree of stability.

Those wearing pink glasses decide to get a stronger (thicker) prescription, because clearly everything happening on the outside is not registering on the inside. In the end, people point the finger at mtld like Reece said all along

Those who hyped up the extension and invested during the landrush make huge profits... Intelligently selling just before the peak rapidly takes a turn for the worst. Those who plan to develop their names will do well. The .mobi extension indexes well in Google. But those who came here in March, April,... with the idea that .mobi would make them rich for doing no work but just regging a few names... These are the big losers here. These are the ones who're going to pay the price for mtld's actions.
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