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Old 08-21-2007, 05:16 PM   #1 (permalink)
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"Internet 2.0" will create a shift away from PCs, Zander says

Maybe this is an old news, but I found this while browsing:



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The future of the desk-top PC is nigh! :)

Seriously, it really is.... you can't turn in any direction without seeing how this is going to turn out.... whether or not it takes the .mobi with it is another question but I still hold out that it will, save only for the fact that small screen devices need web-sites that can be viewed on small screens without straining yourself. watching videos is fine but when it comes to text content -you need something that is easy on the eye.
It always amuses me when someone says wow, look at this - the whole things on my screen!
I say; impressive isn't it.... now what are you going to do with it exactly? ;-)
IMHO - a small screen option = important!

Even if the two formats are run in parallel!

We will see soon enough I'm sure.

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The mobile internet will be big, no doubt... But anyone thinking the masses are going to switch from their desktop/laptop to a 2 inch (4 inch tops) screen the majority of the time are missing a few bolts (quite literally!). Reminds me of the WebTV fad and other poorly planned/anticipated misses (see Intel's Itanium sales predictions for a good example of not learning from experience).

Will the mobile web be huge? Absolutely.
Do I think for 1 second that there will be more average time spent on cell phones than on desktops? Hell no.
And even the "more cell phone users than desktops" debate is shortlived when we have organizations building $500 houses and <$200 laptops. If you can build a laptop for <$200, you can build a desktop for pretty cheap IMHO.
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The mobile internet will be big, no doubt... But anyone thinking the masses are going to switch from their desktop/laptop to a 2 inch (4 inch tops) screen the majority of the time are missing a few bolts (quite literally!). Reminds me of the WebTV fad and other poorly planned/anticipated misses (see Intel's Itanium sales predictions for a good example of not learning from experience).
who said any of that stuff about switching?


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Will the mobile web be huge? Absolutely.
Do I think for 1 second that there will be more average time spent on cell phones than on desktops? Hell no.
And even the "more cell phone users than desktops" debate is shortlived when we have organizations building $500 houses and <$200 laptops. If you can build a laptop for <$200, you can build a desktop for pretty cheap IMHO.
well, in a lot of parts of the world there isnt internet access available, so a desktop computer really does no good even if its free. nobody owns a mobile device without being able to connect to the outside world..

you can build a basic cellphone (mobile device) for way way way less than a $200 laptop...
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who said any of that stuff about switching?




well, in a lot of parts of the world there isnt internet access available, so a desktop computer really does no good even if its free. nobody owns a mobile device without being able to connect to the outside world..

you can build a basic cellphone (mobile device) for way way way less than a $200 laptop...
But those users are of no value (dollar value) for the most part anyway. PPC for third world countries ranges from pennies to invalid traffic.
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But those users are of no value (dollar value) for the most part anyway. PPC for third world countries ranges from pennies to invalid traffic.
dude, thats pretty short sighted..
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dude, thats pretty short sighted..
Realistically, who is going to develop 1000+ .mobis like several people on this forum have? Parking will be an essential monetization method, as it is on the Web as we know it today.
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Realistically, who is going to develop 1000+ .mobis like several people on this forum have? Parking will be an essential monetization method, as it is on the Web as we know it today.

errr but hold on.. were talking about the internet on mobile devices in general here, not mobi.
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errr but hold on.. were talking about the internet on mobile devices in general here, not mobi.
Which makes it all the more important of a factor to consider where this traffic is coming from... Because if you consider .com + .mobi as contenders in the mobile web, a whole lot of us have 1k+ to develop or park.

Certainly, there will be some good uses for "low quality" traffic. But for most of us, we'll just be parking (or developing) them, hoping we get a lot of high quality traffic and designing our sites with high value traffic users in mind.
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Which makes it all the more important of a factor to consider where this traffic is coming from... Because if you consider .com + .mobi as contenders in the mobile web, a whole lot of us have 1k+ to develop or park.

Certainly, there will be some good uses for "low quality" traffic. But for most of us, we'll just be parking (or developing) them, hoping we get a lot of high quality traffic and designing our sites with high value traffic users in mind.

well thats good to know but that is a completely different subject.. the topic at hand is a pretty general thing... the mobile internet, getting big, a "shift" away from pc's (because the possibility didnt exist before, so inevitably there will be an initial 'shift')

thats all.. pretty general stuff
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well thats good to know but that is a completely different subject.. the topic at hand is a pretty general thing... the mobile internet, getting big, a "shift" away from pc's (because the possibility didnt exist before, so inevitably there will be an initial 'shift')

thats all.. pretty general stuff
It is related -- many of the arguments for the mobile web gaining dominance are based on the fact that it will accumulate millions of additional third world country users. I'm happy for them and all -- nobody should have to go without the Internet...

But if the mobile web is primarily going to be "big" or "comparable to the desktop internet" in sheer size due to the much larger third world country base vs many Americans and Europeans using their phones for Internet rather than their desktop is something which will fundamentally affect the value of .mobi names (perhaps even .coms) in the end, should they become an accepted standard for the mobile internet.
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The mobile internet will be big, no doubt... But anyone thinking the masses are going to switch from their desktop/laptop to a 2 inch (4 inch tops) screen the majority of the time are missing a few bolts (quite literally!).
Reece, I think you are missing the paradigm shift. To use music as an example through history:









Now the internet will go through a similar paradigm shift...mobile. Some will get their fill via mobile and say forget it to their PC but most I think will have both, each filling a different need. Mobile internet can very much excel over a PC in many areas, getting maps and directions is a big one. Simple news is another one. I think that segment will take off with our need it now mentality. And I'm sure there will be ways it is used 2 years from now that many of us haven't even considered. It's not a zero sum game.
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