The reality...

jeremyp · 08-17-2007, 09:17 AM

Mobile web surfing is barely in it's adoption-infancy.

Calling .mobi a failure before the toddler can stand... chicken little.

Calling .mobi a failure before the toddler can stand... player hater.

Mobile is limited by bandwidth, hardware and immediate corporate ROI (despite industry growth projections).

We're 4+ years from being able to even think about calling for success or failure.

Jeremy Padawer

Jeff · 08-17-2007, 09:34 AM

Originally Posted by jeremyp

Mobile web surfing is barely in it's adoption-infancy.

Agree.

Quote:

We're 4+ years from being able to even think about calling for success or failure.

Righto, easily and IMHO ... 11 - 14+ years (with respect to .MOBI, specifically)! LOTS of renewal fees!

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-Jeff

hawkeye · 08-17-2007, 09:41 AM

Originally Posted by Jeff

...and IMHO ... 11 - 14+ years (with respect to .MOBI, specifically)!

Then come back in 11 - 14 years and let us know how things are.

Originally Posted by Jeff

...LOTS of renewal fees!

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-Jeff

And something that won't affect you, so why worry.

garrett200 · 08-17-2007, 09:45 AM

Don't forget about the renewal fees on "skedaddle.mobi" ROFLMAO

Jeff · 08-17-2007, 09:48 AM

Originally Posted by hawkeye

Then come back in 11 - 14 years and let us know how things are.

I'll be here throughout ... not to worry!

Interesting to see how this whole thing shakes out ... as, really, all we're doing here is speculating and sharing our humble thoughts and opinions - which is a good thing!

See you soon, friend.

Originally Posted by garrett200

Don't forget about the renewal fees on "skedaddle.mobi" ROFLMAO

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-Jeff

mjnels · 08-17-2007, 09:50 AM

Originally Posted by jeremyp

Mobile web surfing is barely in it's adoption-infancy.

Calling .mobi a failure before the toddler can stand... chicken little.

Calling .mobi a failure before the toddler can stand... player hater.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=363013

Mobile is limited by bandwidth, hardware and immediate corporate ROI (despite industry growth projections).

We're 4+ years from being able to even think about calling for success or failure.

Jeremy Padawer

amen.

many people are stuck inside their domainer minds and dont seem to grasp this..

hawkeye · 08-17-2007, 09:50 AM

Originally Posted by Jeff

I'll be here throughout ...

...bummer!

garrett200 · 08-17-2007, 09:58 AM

The reality is that .mobi is doing alright. It has room for improvement though. I'm excited about the possibilities, as I always have been.

rocknrollo · 08-17-2007, 12:31 PM

It will be big in about a year so get your sites up now.......

I am heading to fenway tonite to hand out fenway.mobi flyers....

Jeff · 08-17-2007, 12:33 PM

Originally Posted by rocknrollo

I am heading to fenway tonite to hand out fenway.mobi flyers....

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Enjoy the double-header!

-Jeff

garrett200 · 08-17-2007, 01:43 PM

Originally Posted by rocknrollo

I am heading to fenway tonite to hand out fenway.mobi flyers....

That is the most awesom thing I've heard here in quite a while!!!! This deserves more than the "kick ass" avatar:

KICK ASS!!!!

sf2010 · 08-17-2007, 03:24 PM

Hi Jeremy-

Welcome back!

In regards to mobi, sorry, IMHO, it does not have 4 years (or even 2 years) to succeed.

Technology is advancing fast and furious everyday. Either adapt to it and create value for users SOON or forever be relegated to a niche domain.

The mindset of the mTLD employees should be, "there is no tomorrow so get it done today"!

acc · 08-17-2007, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by rocknrollo

I am heading to fenway tonite to hand out fenway.mobi flyers....

Excellent - Good Luck!
One win this afternoon - one to go this evening - GO SOX!

chupacabra · 08-17-2007, 05:14 PM

I think the current 'lull', is actually where things should be right now, or perhaps slightly lower since bubbles tend to over correct. Flowers.mobi kicked off rampant speculation and a lot of people were looking to make unrealistic returns. That type of speculation is not sustainable, and ultimately hurt .mobi. Once the mobile internet and hopefully .mobi become more established, then higher prices may be justified. But as OP mentioned, this takes time.

I also think all the frustration over the RFP process is completely unfounded. First of all, generics are going to mean nothing to the general public. Generics are great from a domainer perspective, as they get type-in traffic. But what percentage of user actually navigate that way? To answer my own question, very few. What is going to make or break .mobi is google.mobi, yahoo.mobi, youtube.mobi, etc. That is what it is going to take to bring .mobi into the public spotlight. It doesn't matter if flowers.mobi is a parked page or a full site, or if generic.mobi doesn't resolve. if the general public is not aware of .mobi, nobody is going to these sites anyway. I personally am glad to see them hold on to the premium names. Not only does this give mtld a vested interest in .mobi's success, it shows me that they believe in the long term value of it, otherwise they would be selling them for whatever they can get for them now.

GeoOwners · 08-17-2007, 06:22 PM

Originally Posted by rocknrollo

It will be big in about a year so get your sites up now.......

I am heading to fenway tonite to hand out fenway.mobi flyers....

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=363013
you should start a thread about this and keep us updated on the views you get and the "word on the street" you get...

thanks

.

thebiffenator · 08-17-2007, 06:50 PM

Originally Posted by rocknrollo

It will be big in about a year so get your sites up now.......

I am heading to fenway tonite to hand out fenway.mobi flyers....

I aggree with you "because...it could be sooner if things take off" BOFA is the national sponsor if the NFL and olympics and BOFA are big on promoting" Football season is less then a month away!!! And the other day my special lady friend saw a Billboard off of I-95 (Philly) for a .mobi name...She doenst know who it was really, but she said a big company and remembered the .mobi in it. "not confirmed yet but" I am gona drive by there next week from work and take the long route. But anyway...BOFA is hardcore for advertising and its not jsut them. It could of been another company promoting there .mobi. (Iam thinking it was probably BOFA)
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Anyway it doesn't matter, IMHO the word is getting out now and with the weather channel's confirmation...look out. Lets just all do are best and develope our own .mobis especialy the great names that we have in our portfolio. And for people that hold them and leave them parked...then its just hurting the extention.....

Lets do it EVERYONE!

garrett200 · 08-17-2007, 07:20 PM

Originally Posted by chupacabra

I also think all the frustration over the RFP process is completely unfounded. First of all, generics are going to mean nothing to the general public. Generics are great from a domainer perspective, as they get type-in traffic. But what percentage of user actually navigate that way? To answer my own question, very few. What is going to make or break .mobi is google.mobi, yahoo.mobi, youtube.mobi, etc. That is what it is going to take to bring .mobi into the public spotlight. It doesn't matter if flowers.mobi is a parked page or a full site, or if generic.mobi doesn't resolve. if the general public is not aware of .mobi, nobody is going to these sites anyway. I personally am glad to see them hold on to the premium names. Not only does this give mtld a vested interest in .mobi's success, it shows me that they believe in the long term value of it, otherwise they would be selling them for whatever they can get for them now.

I agree, to a point. I agree that the biggest thing that is going to make .mobi rock and roll is just what you said, the top websites using and promoting their .mobi versions. That will create the public awareness.
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That being said, I also think it is important to get the best keyword domains into developers hands before the year 8006. Having even 200 or 300 of the top premium domains out, developed, and promoted will also have a large effect on .mobi awareness and success.

So, I think BOTH are extremely important.

Jeff · 08-17-2007, 07:27 PM

Bofa.mobi, IF promoted to the extent as recently indicated, is a substantial event, IMHO ... I've said this repeatedly. Weather.mobi is recycled, almost incestuous, "news", and the premiums/reserveds and especially RFP's are a TOTAL DISASTER in my view (but perhaps simply a "setback" for some here ITHO's). And, finally, I agree that a developed, stand-alone, and fully promoted and advertised Google.mobi may very well prove to be the difference between an adopted extension ... or a sleepy novelty/niche/vanity item, IMHO.

Just a few humble thoughts ... and opinions.

-Jeff

-REECE- · 08-17-2007, 08:34 PM

Originally Posted by Jeff

Bofa.mobi, IF promoted to the extent as recently indicated, is a substantial event, IMHO ... I've said this repeatedly. Weather.mobi is recycled, almost incestuous, "news", and the premiums/reserveds and especially RFP's are a TOTAL DISASTER in my view (but perhaps simply a "setback" for some here ITHO's). And, finally, I agree that a developed, stand-alone, and fully promoted and advertised Google.mobi may very well prove to be the difference between an adopted extension ... or a sleepy novelty/niche/vanity item, IMHO.

Just a few humble thoughts ... and opinions.

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=363013
-Jeff

Agreed. A large company like Google actually using their .mobi would instantly add credibility to the .mobi extension. BOFA is a great start -- but Google could literally make .mobi a hit overnight.

garrett200 · 08-17-2007, 08:42 PM

Well, Google is supposedly a backer of .mobi. If they suddenly started promoting Google.mobi, that would certainly make .mobi a hit overnight. That could still happen, I think and hope.

One thing to remember is that Google is just starting to roll out mobile advertising. It could very well be that they are waiting on promoting Google.mobi until the appropriate time.

If and when that ever happens, you know that all the other major websites will follow suit. .mobi could end up becoming something big after all, JUST FROM THAT ALONE.

I know this: If .mobi becomes a household name, you can call me "mid-six figure Garrett".

GeoOwners · 08-17-2007, 08:52 PM

maybe all of us that have internet on the phone should use "google.mobi" ...they would see the use and then maybe decide it's worth promoting...

.

garrett200 · 08-17-2007, 08:55 PM

Originally Posted by dentalpro

maybe all of us that have internet on the phone should use "google.mobi" ...they would see the use and then maybe decide it's worth promoting...
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.

I don't know why they wouldn't want to promote it, just on its face alone. It's very catchy and easy to remember. I wish I was a fly on the wall in Google headquarters, because the decision has probably already been made.

Truth is, any 1 of these 5 domains could make this extension a household name:

1. Google.mobi
2. Yahoo.mobi
3. MSN.mobi
4. AmericanIdol.mobi
5. YouTube.mobi

mkylut · 08-17-2007, 09:06 PM

msn.mobi is live and use no .com redirection I believe

garrett200 · 08-17-2007, 09:14 PM

But, I dont see MSN promoting it at all. The only people who know about it are domainers.

thebiffenator · 08-18-2007, 12:51 AM

Originally Posted by garrett200

But, I dont see MSN promoting it at all. The only people who know about it are domainers.

And people that we all tell in each state/country that we all live in

Tonight I told and showed another 3-5 people and showed them on my gerneric phone and there own (who had interet access) Once again they were amazed at how quick the .mobis opened up.

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jeremyp NamePros Regular Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 614	The reality... Mobile web surfing is barely in it's adoption-infancy. Calling .mobi a failure before the toddler can stand... chicken little. Calling .mobi a failure before the toddler can stand... player hater. Mobile is limited by bandwidth, hardware and immediate corporate ROI (despite industry growth projections). We're 4+ years from being able to even think about calling for success or failure. Jeremy Padawer __________________ www.Boing.mobi - search the complete mobile web from .MOBI to .COM!

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garrett200 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 2,310	The reality is that .mobi is doing alright. It has room for improvement though. I'm excited about the possibilities, as I always have been. __________________ Adopt A Polar Bear Today!

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08-17-2007, 07:27 PM	#18 (permalink)
Jeff Emeritus Join Date: May 2003 Location: Winter Break© Posts: 29,526	Bofa.mobi, IF promoted to the extent as recently indicated, is a substantial event, IMHO ... I've said this repeatedly. Weather.mobi is recycled, almost incestuous, "news", and the premiums/reserveds and especially RFP's are a TOTAL DISASTER in my view (but perhaps simply a "setback" for some here ITHO's). And, finally, I agree that a developed, stand-alone, and fully promoted and advertised Google.mobi may very well prove to be the difference between an adopted extension ... or a sleepy novelty/niche/vanity item, IMHO. Just a few humble thoughts ... and opinions. -Jeff __________________ Be cool. Be polite. Be professional.™

08-17-2007, 03:24 PM	#12 (permalink)
sf2010 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,228	Hi Jeremy- Welcome back! In regards to mobi, sorry, IMHO, it does not have 4 years (or even 2 years) to succeed. Technology is advancing fast and furious everyday. Either adapt to it and create value for users SOON or forever be relegated to a niche domain. The mindset of the mTLD employees should be, "there is no tomorrow so get it done today"!

08-17-2007, 05:14 PM	#14 (permalink)
chupacabra NamePros Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 98	I think the current 'lull', is actually where things should be right now, or perhaps slightly lower since bubbles tend to over correct. Flowers.mobi kicked off rampant speculation and a lot of people were looking to make unrealistic returns. That type of speculation is not sustainable, and ultimately hurt .mobi. Once the mobile internet and hopefully .mobi become more established, then higher prices may be justified. But as OP mentioned, this takes time. I also think all the frustration over the RFP process is completely unfounded. First of all, generics are going to mean nothing to the general public. Generics are great from a domainer perspective, as they get type-in traffic. But what percentage of user actually navigate that way? To answer my own question, very few. What is going to make or break .mobi is google.mobi, yahoo.mobi, youtube.mobi, etc. That is what it is going to take to bring .mobi into the public spotlight. It doesn't matter if flowers.mobi is a parked page or a full site, or if generic.mobi doesn't resolve. if the general public is not aware of .mobi, nobody is going to these sites anyway. I personally am glad to see them hold on to the premium names. Not only does this give mtld a vested interest in .mobi's success, it shows me that they believe in the long term value of it, otherwise they would be selling them for whatever they can get for them now.

08-17-2007, 08:42 PM	#20 (permalink)
garrett200 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 2,310	Well, Google is supposedly a backer of .mobi. If they suddenly started promoting Google.mobi, that would certainly make .mobi a hit overnight. That could still happen, I think and hope. One thing to remember is that Google is just starting to roll out mobile advertising. It could very well be that they are waiting on promoting Google.mobi until the appropriate time. If and when that ever happens, you know that all the other major websites will follow suit. .mobi could end up becoming something big after all, JUST FROM THAT ALONE. I know this: If .mobi becomes a household name, you can call me "mid-six figure Garrett". __________________ Adopt A Polar Bear Today! Last edited by garrett200; 08-17-2007 at 08:50 PM.

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GeoOwners Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Near Chicago Posts: 2,397	maybe all of us that have internet on the phone should use "google.mobi" ...they would see the use and then maybe decide it's worth promoting... . __________________ MortgageandLoan.com

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mkylut NamePros Regular Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Nice, Cote d'Azur Posts: 791	msn.mobi is live and use no .com redirection I believe

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garrett200 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 2,310	But, I dont see MSN promoting it at all. The only people who know about it are domainers. __________________ Adopt A Polar Bear Today!

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