iPhone Annihilates Mobi's Future?

homebuyer · 06-26-2007, 05:51 PM

Read the article and then decide:

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/27/te...7pogue.html?hp

It seems that the iPhone does away with the need for mobi-formatted websites. I think that by the time the mobi is promoted, it will have to compete with the cheaper mass produced iPhones and similar handhelds that everyone can buy for a few bucks. So who is going to need or want a .mobi by then?

Okay, now that I've stated the facts and an opinion, I'm taking cover. So go ahead and sling the mud, launch a barrage of accusatory hate speech, and pat each other on the back for sticking together.

VisionEdger · 06-26-2007, 05:54 PM

is this person for real??

Okay, now that I've stated the facts -

thats some factual content you got going there hb

dubstep · 06-26-2007, 05:55 PM

Oh no! The end is here! Run, Forrest, RUNNNN!!!

homebuyer · 06-26-2007, 06:01 PM

You want facts? Take a look at what the nytimes.com looks like on an iphone:

http://www.apple.com/iphone/usingiphone/guidedtour.html

Now look at their pricing plans:

http://www.apple.com/iphone/easysetup/rateplans.html

I'm already paying $79 a month on my current cell plan. I gotta get one. I can't wait around for the .mobi to become what the iphone apparently is already.

With all due respect, get you head out of the sand.

dubstep · 06-26-2007, 06:04 PM

And how, exactly, is the iPhone bad news for .mobi, in your opinion?

I was under the impression that it was the other way around..

scandiman · 06-26-2007, 06:08 PM

Homebuyer, Here's a fact for you: there are rules for this forum, read then. http://www.namepros.com/dot-mobi/334...e-posting.html

garrett200 · 06-26-2007, 06:10 PM

OMG, it's the death of mobi! Hmmm, I wonder why .mobi's are still selling on Sedo for thousands of dollars?

circa1850 · 06-26-2007, 06:11 PM

Originally Posted by garrett200

OMG, it's the death of mobi!

Somebody pass gas again?

homebuyer · 06-26-2007, 06:12 PM

The iPhone apparently eliminates the need to build mobi-compliant sites.

Gregr · 06-26-2007, 06:13 PM

Originally Posted by homebuyer

With all due respect, get you head out of the sand.

They won't get their head out of the sand until they dump all their .mobis. Then they will see the light.

dubstep · 06-26-2007, 06:22 PM

Originally Posted by homebuyer

The iPhone apparently eliminates the need to build mobi-compliant sites.

On the contrary, the iPhone will put the mobile internet into the hands of more consumers, resulting in a greater need for mobile-compliant sites. Normal sites still require a lot of scrolling, zooming, etc, and I believe that most people would rather visit a site optimized for mobile viewing.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/dot-mobi/343691-iphone-annihilates-mobis-future.html

And that, sir, is where .mobi comes into play.

Originally Posted by Gregr

They won't get their head out of the sand until they dump all their .mobis. Then they will see the light.

Hm....I think I've heard that one before...quite creative of you, I must say!

P.S. - I hope that someday you can realize that there are many of us .mobi investors who are glad that we refused to "get our head out of the sand"! For example, duskdawn probably isn't complaining about his $10,000 sale of LGD.mobi!

homebuyer · 06-26-2007, 06:22 PM

Originally Posted by scandiman

Homebuyer, Here's a fact for you: there are rules for this forum, read then. http://www.namepros.com/dot-mobi/334...e-posting.html

I read:

"If they are found to discourage the development, buying, selling, and usage of .mobi names without reason these threads will be closed or deleted depending on the original topic."

"without reason?" I am justifying my reasons.

Suppose you had a forum for the development of online grocery deliveries, and the topic was webvan.com. Would you boot someone for pointing out the weaknesses in the development and promotion of webvan? I believe that a lot of people wanted to hear only the good news about such development back then and they ultimately lost millions.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=343691

This forum has a lot of smaller domainers who are sinking a lot of money in the .mobi. I think it is only fair to point out the new mobi-relevant issues so these domainers can make an informed decision about their mobi portfolios.

circa1850 · 06-26-2007, 06:27 PM

The iPhone Matches Most of Its Hype

That's funny stuff. The word Most equates to annihilation in some people's minds. What do those same minds interpret these words from the same article? (bold and color enhanced for the reading impaired)

There’s no memory-card slot, no chat program, no voice dialing. You can’t install new programs from anyone but Apple; other companies can create only iPhone-tailored mini-programs on the Web. The browser can’t handle Java or Flash, which deprives you of millions of Web videos.

The two-megapixel camera takes great photos, provided the subject is motionless and well lighted (samples are here). But it can’t capture video. And you can’t send picture messages (called MMS) to other cellphones.

Apple says that the battery starts to lose capacity after 300 or 400 charges. Eventually, you’ll have to send the phone to Apple for battery replacement, much as you do now with an iPod, for a fee.

Then there’s the small matter of typing. Tapping the skinny little virtual keys on the screen is frustrating, especially at first.

Two things make the job tolerable. First, some very smart software offers to complete words for you, and, when you tap the wrong letter, figures out what word you intended. In both cases, tapping the Space bar accepts its suggestion.

Second, the instructional leaflet encourages you to “trust” the keyboard (or, as a product manager jokingly put it, to “use the Force”). It sounds like new-age baloney, but it works; once you stop stressing about each individual letter and just plow ahead, speed and accuracy pick up considerably.

Even so, text entry is not the iPhone’s strong suit. The BlackBerry won’t be going away anytime soon.

The bigger problem is the AT&T network. In a Consumer Reports study, AT&T’s signal ranked either last or second to last in 19 out of 20 major cities. My tests in five states bear this out. If Verizon’s slogan is, “Can you hear me now?” AT&T’s should be, “I’m losing you.”

Then there’s the Internet problem. When you’re in a Wi-Fi hot spot, going online is fast and satisfying.

But otherwise, you have to use AT&T’s ancient EDGE cellular network, which is excruciatingly slow. The New York Times’s home page takes 55 seconds to appear; Amazon.com, 100 seconds; Yahoo, two minutes. You almost ache for a dial-up modem.

These drawbacks may be deal-killers for some people. On the other hand, both the iPhone and its network will improve. Apple points out that unlike other cellphones, this one can and will be enhanced with free software updates. That’s good, because I encountered a couple of tiny bugs and one freeze. (There’s also a tantalizing empty space for a row of new icons on the Home screen.) A future iPhone model will be able to exploit AT&T’s newer, much faster data network, which is now available in 160 cities.[B]
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????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=343691
So I guess you have to buy 2 of them. One to have when you mail the one in to have the battery replaced (for a fee...those crafty folks at apple) and use both at the same time to cut your browsing and loading time in half? Two minutes for Yahoo?

Damn, if I'm not there in 5 seconds I'm gone.

Can ya hear me now?

Broker · 06-26-2007, 06:30 PM

The iphone does not eliminate the need to build mobi-compliant sites. The iphone's browser along with deepfish, opera etc do. And if thats not enough, it's the m.whatever.com or whatever.com/mobile that are compliant through "advanced rendering technology" that will prove .mobi as valuable and useful as .bz imho.

The iphone ads appear to be not only crapping all over the .mobi extension, but the "mobile web" as well. It simply says "this is the internet" period. No mwhatever.com or whatever.com/mobile. Just .com

Opera and deepfish are also capable of viewing .com sites. Although opera seems to be showing more of a .mobi appearance and "waterdowned" version, however its showing a much quicker downloaded .com sites, not .mobi

The iphone is not the .mobi killer, the millions of cellphones with these awesome browsers are imho.

garrett200 · 06-26-2007, 06:35 PM

Originally Posted by circa1850

you have to use AT&T’s ancient EDGE cellular network, which is excruciatingly slow. The New York Times’s home page takes 55 seconds to appear; Amazon.com, 100 seconds; Yahoo, two minutes. You almost ache for a dial-up modem.

LOL! Sounds like fun browsing to me!

scandiman · 06-26-2007, 06:37 PM

Originally Posted by homebuyer

I read:

"If they are found to discourage the development, buying, selling, and usage of .mobi names without reason these threads will be closed or deleted depending on the original topic."

"without reason?" I am justifying my reasons.

Suppose you had a forum for the development of online grocery deliveries, and the topic was webvan.com. Would you boot someone for pointing out the weaknesses in the development and promotion of webvan? I believe that a lot of people wanted to hear only the good news about such development back then and they ultimately lost millions.

This forum has a lot of smaller domainers who are sinking a lot of money in the .mobi. I think it is only fair to point out the new mobi-relevant issues so these domainers can make an informed decision about their mobi portfolios.

Keep going:

4. Any parties found to be constantly questioning the .mobi extension will find themselves asked to leave the .mobi forum. This forum was created to discuss the .mobi extension, not question its existence.

You speak of annihilation of a tld (which is ridiculous) without drawing attention to the statements in the article, such as:

Quote:

Then there’s the Internet problem. When you’re in a Wi-Fi hot spot, going online is fast and satisfying.

But otherwise, you have to use AT&T’s ancient EDGE cellular network, which is excruciatingly slow. The New York Times’s home page takes 55 seconds to appear; Amazon.com, 100 seconds; Yahoo, two minutes. You almost ache for a dial-up modem.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=343691

These drawbacks may be deal-killers for some people.

dubstep · 06-26-2007, 06:37 PM

Originally Posted by garrett200

LOL! Sounds like fun browsing to me!

Hell yeah! Definitely worth $500!

Where's the car??!?! I need an iPhone NOW!

texasgamer · 06-26-2007, 06:38 PM

This is getting ridiculous. What do you care if my head is in the sand? Are you obsessed with my financial investments or what?
It seems that you can't wait to come in here and denigrate, belittle and besmirch .mobi and its supporters, under the guise of trying to help noobs spend their money.
Please stop trying to stir the pot and go get a life.
I love NamePros but this harrassment has got to stop.

homebuyer · 06-26-2007, 06:38 PM

I clearly put a question mark in the title of the original post to get some ideas from both sides of the fence. So why is it that when someone criticizes the .mobi people become hostile and take it personally?

Crica1850, I applaud you for pointing out the deficiencies in the iPhone. Would you care to also point out the deficiencies in the mobi sites already up, besides that most people have no idea what a .mobi is?

Look, I bought 50 plus .mobis for the same reasons everyone else did. But I gotta tell you, I want to hear all the pros and cons of everything affecting the mobi before my renewal dates arrive.

dubstep · 06-26-2007, 06:42 PM

News Flash: We've heard the whole "Run for your lives!! The iPhone will bring .mobi to ruin!!" gander countless times. And guess what...we don't care!

ezinaz · 06-26-2007, 06:46 PM

Wow...you guys bit on this one hook, line, and sinker...

RJ · 06-26-2007, 06:46 PM

Originally Posted by ezinaz

Wow...you guys bit on this one hook, line, and sinker...

What's new.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=343691

Merge with this one?
http://www.namepros.com/dot-mobi/343...o-station.html

dubstep · 06-26-2007, 06:49 PM

Originally Posted by ezinaz

Wow...you guys bit on this one hook, line, and sinker...

Nah...obviously the OP was bored, and I'm fighting his boredom with an equal dose of boredom. One of these days maybe the NP Management will take the hint and reprimand individuals who come to the .MOBI board just to pick pointless fights -- fights that have been fought hundreds of times, such as the whole iPhone thing.

VisionEdger · 06-26-2007, 06:53 PM

i have officially converted due to this insightful post by homealone , lets all dump our mobis NOW before its too late!

texasgamer · 06-26-2007, 06:54 PM

Homebuyer can you please list your 50 plus mobis here in public?
I may be interested in purchasing some...

06-26-2007, 05:51 PM	THREAD STARTER #1 (permalink)
homebuyer Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,063	iPhone Annihilates Mobi's Future? Read the article and then decide: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/27/te...7pogue.html?hp It seems that the iPhone does away with the need for mobi-formatted websites. I think that by the time the mobi is promoted, it will have to compete with the cheaper mass produced iPhones and similar handhelds that everyone can buy for a few bucks. So who is going to need or want a .mobi by then? Okay, now that I've stated the facts and an opinion, I'm taking cover. So go ahead and sling the mud, launch a barrage of accusatory hate speech, and pat each other on the back for sticking together.

06-26-2007, 05:54 PM	#2 (permalink)
VisionEdger NamePros Regular Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 706	get off it is this person for real?? Okay, now that I've stated the facts - thats some factual content you got going there hb Last edited by VisionEdger; 06-26-2007 at 05:55 PM. Reason: misprint

06-26-2007, 05:55 PM	#3 (permalink)
dubstep Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Boulder, CO Posts: 3,096	Oh no! The end is here! Run, Forrest, RUNNNN!!! __________________ “When I get a little money I buy domains; and if any is left I buy food and clothes.”

06-26-2007, 06:01 PM	THREAD STARTER #4 (permalink)
homebuyer Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,063	Facts You want facts? Take a look at what the nytimes.com looks like on an iphone: http://www.apple.com/iphone/usingiphone/guidedtour.html Now look at their pricing plans: http://www.apple.com/iphone/easysetup/rateplans.html I'm already paying $79 a month on my current cell plan. I gotta get one. I can't wait around for the .mobi to become what the iphone apparently is already. With all due respect, get you head out of the sand.

06-26-2007, 06:04 PM	#5 (permalink)
dubstep Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Boulder, CO Posts: 3,096	And how, exactly, is the iPhone bad news for .mobi, in your opinion? I was under the impression that it was the other way around.. __________________ “When I get a little money I buy domains; and if any is left I buy food and clothes.”

06-26-2007, 06:08 PM	#6 (permalink)
scandiman Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: living in exile Posts: 3,859	Homebuyer, Here's a fact for you: there are rules for this forum, read then. http://www.namepros.com/dot-mobi/334...e-posting.html

06-26-2007, 06:10 PM	#7 (permalink)
garrett200 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 2,310	OMG, it's the death of mobi! Hmmm, I wonder why .mobi's are still selling on Sedo for thousands of dollars? __________________ Adopt A Polar Bear Today!

06-26-2007, 06:12 PM	THREAD STARTER #9 (permalink)
homebuyer Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,063	Iphone Will be a Household Word The iPhone apparently eliminates the need to build mobi-compliant sites.

06-26-2007, 06:27 PM	#13 (permalink)
circa1850 Account Closed Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: North Carolina Posts: 1,637	The iPhone Matches Most of Its Hype That's funny stuff. The word Most equates to annihilation in some people's minds. What do those same minds interpret these words from the same article? (bold and color enhanced for the reading impaired) There’s no memory-card slot, no chat program, no voice dialing. You can’t install new programs from anyone but Apple; other companies can create only iPhone-tailored mini-programs on the Web. The browser can’t handle Java or Flash, which deprives you of millions of Web videos. The two-megapixel camera takes great photos, provided the subject is motionless and well lighted (samples are here). But it can’t capture video. And you can’t send picture messages (called MMS) to other cellphones. Apple says that the battery starts to lose capacity after 300 or 400 charges. Eventually, you’ll have to send the phone to Apple for battery replacement, much as you do now with an iPod, for a fee. Then there’s the small matter of typing. Tapping the skinny little virtual keys on the screen is frustrating, especially at first. Two things make the job tolerable. First, some very smart software offers to complete words for you, and, when you tap the wrong letter, figures out what word you intended. In both cases, tapping the Space bar accepts its suggestion. Second, the instructional leaflet encourages you to “trust” the keyboard (or, as a product manager jokingly put it, to “use the Force”). It sounds like new-age baloney, but it works; once you stop stressing about each individual letter and just plow ahead, speed and accuracy pick up considerably. Even so, text entry is not the iPhone’s strong suit. The BlackBerry won’t be going away anytime soon. The bigger problem is the AT&T network. In a Consumer Reports study, AT&T’s signal ranked either last or second to last in 19 out of 20 major cities. My tests in five states bear this out. If Verizon’s slogan is, “Can you hear me now?” AT&T’s should be, “I’m losing you.” Then there’s the Internet problem. When you’re in a Wi-Fi hot spot, going online is fast and satisfying. But otherwise, you have to use AT&T’s ancient EDGE cellular network, which is excruciatingly slow. The New York Times’s home page takes 55 seconds to appear; Amazon.com, 100 seconds; Yahoo, two minutes. You almost ache for a dial-up modem. These drawbacks may be deal-killers for some people. On the other hand, both the iPhone and its network will improve. Apple points out that unlike other cellphones, this one can and will be enhanced with free software updates. That’s good, because I encountered a couple of tiny bugs and one freeze. (There’s also a tantalizing empty space for a row of new icons on the Home screen.) A future iPhone model will be able to exploit AT&T’s newer, much faster data network, which is now available in 160 cities.[B] ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=343691 So I guess you have to buy 2 of them. One to have when you mail the one in to have the battery replaced (for a fee...those crafty folks at apple) and use both at the same time to cut your browsing and loading time in half? Two minutes for Yahoo? Damn, if I'm not there in 5 seconds I'm gone. Can ya hear me now? Last edited by circa1850; 06-26-2007 at 06:30 PM.

06-26-2007, 06:30 PM	#14 (permalink)
Broker Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Philly Burbs Posts: 3,167	The iphone does not eliminate the need to build mobi-compliant sites. The iphone's browser along with deepfish, opera etc do. And if thats not enough, it's the m.whatever.com or whatever.com/mobile that are compliant through "advanced rendering technology" that will prove .mobi as valuable and useful as .bz imho. The iphone ads appear to be not only crapping all over the .mobi extension, but the "mobile web" as well. It simply says "this is the internet" period. No mwhatever.com or whatever.com/mobile. Just .com Opera and deepfish are also capable of viewing .com sites. Although opera seems to be showing more of a .mobi appearance and "waterdowned" version, however its showing a much quicker downloaded .com sites, not .mobi The iphone is not the .mobi killer, the millions of cellphones with these awesome browsers are imho.

06-26-2007, 06:38 PM	#18 (permalink)
texasgamer Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Corpus Christi, Texas Posts: 2,373	This is getting ridiculous. What do you care if my head is in the sand? Are you obsessed with my financial investments or what? It seems that you can't wait to come in here and denigrate, belittle and besmirch .mobi and its supporters, under the guise of trying to help noobs spend their money. Please stop trying to stir the pot and go get a life. I love NamePros but this harrassment has got to stop. __________________ Sara Palin

06-26-2007, 06:38 PM	THREAD STARTER #19 (permalink)
homebuyer Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,063	? I clearly put a question mark in the title of the original post to get some ideas from both sides of the fence. So why is it that when someone criticizes the .mobi people become hostile and take it personally? Crica1850, I applaud you for pointing out the deficiencies in the iPhone. Would you care to also point out the deficiencies in the mobi sites already up, besides that most people have no idea what a .mobi is? Look, I bought 50 plus .mobis for the same reasons everyone else did. But I gotta tell you, I want to hear all the pros and cons of everything affecting the mobi before my renewal dates arrive.

06-26-2007, 06:42 PM	#20 (permalink)
dubstep Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Boulder, CO Posts: 3,096	News Flash: We've heard the whole "Run for your lives!! The iPhone will bring .mobi to ruin!!" gander countless times. And guess what...we don't care! __________________ “When I get a little money I buy domains; and if any is left I buy food and clothes.”

06-26-2007, 06:46 PM	#21 (permalink)
ezinaz NamePros Regular Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 409	Wow...you guys bit on this one hook, line, and sinker... __________________ Mobivate Technologies - Get Your Mobi On! TM ezinaz - "Mobivangelist" ahwatukee.mobi \| arlingtontx.mobi \| bakersfield.mobi \| lexington.mobi \| New! longisland.mobi \| Newly updated! roto.mobi

06-26-2007, 06:53 PM	#24 (permalink)
VisionEdger NamePros Regular Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 706	i have officially converted due to this insightful post by homealone , lets all dump our mobis NOW before its too late!

06-26-2007, 06:54 PM	#25 (permalink)
texasgamer Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Corpus Christi, Texas Posts: 2,373	Homebuyer can you please list your 50 plus mobis here in public? I may be interested in purchasing some... __________________ Sara Palin

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iPhone Annihilates Mobi's Future?

get off it

Facts

Iphone Will be a Household Word

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