Another poll: your dictionary .mobi name!

namegeeks · 06-06-2007, 11:41 AM

Gentlemen:

Do you have any dictionary .mobi names? Please post them here.

scandiman · 06-06-2007, 11:53 AM

What is the point of this thread?

namegeeks · 06-06-2007, 12:00 PM

No point, just a poll. But PM me, and we can talk

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*nrmillions* · 06-06-2007, 12:47 PM

do you mean names that actually have dictionary in it such as EnglishDictionary.mobi or do you mean words that are just in the dictionary? for .mobi just because it is a dictionary word doesnt mean it is automatically good. people on the forums think that they can just hand reg any word that is in a dictionary in .mobi and that it is worth 4 or 5 figures right away or that it eventually will be worth tons of money. i have seen so many people reg worthless dictionary words every single day. people should think about who a potential end user would be, how much money those end users might have, if it would be something relevant to mobile content, and how they could develop the name to make money off of it before regging them. even if mobi becomes huge and mainstream a lot of those words will still only be worth regfee. of course there are tons of good dictionary words too but people get too carried away by the term dictionary word.

seanboy · 06-06-2007, 12:53 PM

Originally Posted by namegeeks

No point, just a poll. But PM me, and we can talk

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Um....

Jo · 06-06-2007, 07:33 PM

Are you buying? What's your budget? What sorts of names are you looking for in my dictionary? (I have a Collins Pocket Reference English Dictionary.) OH and where's the poll? I don't see a poll anywhere. Or did you mean a pole? Are you Polish? If there was a real pole here...maybe I'd dance!

Broker · 06-06-2007, 08:27 PM

Structured.mobi

Jeff · 06-06-2007, 08:31 PM

Originally Posted by namegeeks

But PM me, and we can talk

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Is this a .MOBI Domain Name Wanted thread?

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/dot-mobi/336204-another-poll-your-dictionary-mobi-name.html

Thanks for the clarification.
-Jeff

garrett200 · 06-06-2007, 10:00 PM

GermanDictionary.mobi
LatinDictionary.mobi
WebstersDictionary.mobi
ItalianDictionary.mobi

....If that's what you were talking about!

circa1850 · 06-06-2007, 10:07 PM

Seems like there are countless other threads regarding this.

No offense, but not sure what it is a poll of, what criteria, number of letters? Singular, plural, past tense, english, medical, sexual?

Hundreds and hundreds already posted. I've got close to 400 now and I would say 80% or more are dictionary.

namegeeks · 06-07-2007, 12:43 AM

Re: dictionary names that I registered, I have domain MerriamWebster.mobi, and it is not a TM name. More, the famous Chicago Manual of Style says that anyone can publish just any dictionary of this kind, and I think we can trust this source.

Let me know what is your opinion about this domain.

Bodhi · 06-07-2007, 12:48 AM

Originally Posted by namegeeks

Re: dictionary names that I registered, I have domain MerriamWebster.mobi, and it is not a TM name. More, the famous Chicago Manual of Style says that anyone can publish just any dictionary of this kind, and I think we can trust this source.

Let me know what is your opinion about this domain.

Not to take this thread off track to much but your name has good OVT of 46833. I would say with a bit of dev, you might cover your regs and then some. Good luck with it!

garrett200 · 06-07-2007, 01:17 AM

Originally Posted by namegeeks

Re: dictionary names that I registered, I have domain MerriamWebster.mobi, and it is not a TM name. More, the famous Chicago Manual of Style says that anyone can publish just any dictionary of this kind, and I think we can trust this source.

Let me know what is your opinion about this domain.

As I stated in an earlier post, I own WebstersDictionary.mobi (240,000 OVT), and there is no TM on that either. Nice to hear that Chicago Manual of Style report, I think that we can be safe that both of our names are good reg's.

circa1850 · 06-07-2007, 01:54 AM

Wow, I really don't know what bathroom stall wall the information is coming from regarding TM, but perhaps before popping the cork on the champagne...

http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield...h=Submit+Query
http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield...h=Submit+Query
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=336204

Quote:

Chicago Manual of Style says that anyone can publish just any dictionary of this kind, and I think we can trust this source.

Let me know what is your opinion about this domain.

My opinion is you can't trust that source to represent you in a WIPO case or a TM infringement law suit. Doubtful their attorneys would show up for the hearing let along fill in the appeals form right. And I really don't think you would want to quote that source in a court of law as being the law that would over-ride the USTPO rulings and filings.

And when you do check those links, do notice that the TM includes online usage.

15105 OVT trademark lawyer
Google 1,320,000 for trademark lawyer

I wish you well.

namegeeks · 06-07-2007, 03:31 AM

Why did you spend so much time writing this post?

There ARE many dictionaries that are published under "Merriam Webster" title, and their authors and publishers don't get sued at all.

Originally Posted by circa1850

Wow, I really don't know what bathroom stall wall the information is coming from regarding TM, but perhaps before popping the cork on the champagne...

http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield...h=Submit+Query
http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield...h=Submit+Query

My opinion is you can't trust that source to represent you in a WIPO case or a TM infringement law suit. Doubtful their attorneys would show up for the hearing let along fill in the appeals form right. And I really don't think you would want to quote that source in a court of law as being the law that would over-ride the USTPO rulings and filings.

And when you do check those links, do notice that the TM includes online usage.

15105 OVT trademark lawyer
Google 1,320,000 for trademark lawyer

I wish you well.

circa1850 · 06-07-2007, 03:54 AM

Originally Posted by namegeeks

Why did you spend so much time writing this post?

There ARE many dictionaties that are published under "Merriam Webster" title, and their authors and publishers don't get sued at all.

Then by all means, have it.

Not much time spent at all, perhaps 5 minutes, not much research needed when you know where to look. One minute for the USTPO site, 1 minute for the OVT and google results, and may be 2 minutes to copy and paste the information here along with the assessment.

I think I'll just start at site called USTPO.mobi but OVT is low.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=336204

It does appear a dictionary is a worthwhile pursuit.

garrett200 · 06-07-2007, 08:12 AM

"POP"

(sound of cork popping)

*nrmillions* · 06-07-2007, 08:22 AM

Anyone is allowed to use the name Websters for a dictionary. Tons of companies use it. It is not illegal. Merriam-Websters though is an actual company that is TM and cannot be used.

From Wikipedia:

[edit] The name "Webster" used by others
Since the late 19th century, dictionaries bearing the name "Webster's" have been published by companies other than Merriam-Webster. Some of these were pirated reprints of Noah Webster's work, some were revisions by others. One such revision was Webster's Imperial Dictionary, based on John Ogilvie's Imperial Dictionary, itself an expansion of Noah Webster's American Dictionary.

As a result of lawsuits filed by Merriam, American courts ruled that "Webster's" entered the public domain when the Unabridged did, in 1889 (G. & C. Merriam Co. v. Ogilvie, 159 Fed. 638 (1908)) and another court ruled in 1917 that it entered the public domain in 1834 when Noah Webster's 1806 dictionary's copyright lapsed. Thus, Webster's became a genericized trademark and others were free to use the name on their own works.

Since then, use of the name "Webster" has been rampant. Merriam-Webster goes to great pains to remind dictionary buyers that it alone is the heir to Noah Webster[1]. The issue is more complicated than that, however. Throughout the 20th century, some non-Merriam editions, such as Webster's New Universal, were closer to Webster's work than modern Merriam-Webster editions. Indeed, Merriam's progressive revisions came to have little in common with their original source, while the Universal, for example, was minimally revised and remained largely out of date. However, Merriam-Webster revisionists find solid ground in Noah Webster's concept of the English language as an ever-changing tapestry.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=336204

So many dictionaries of varied size and quality have been called Webster's that the name no longer has any specific brand meaning. Despite this, many people still recognize and trust the name. Thus, Webster's continues as a powerful and lucrative marketing tool. In recent years, even established dictionaries with no direct link to Noah Webster whatsoever have adopted his name, adding to the confusion. Random House dictionaries are now called Random House Webster's, and Microsoft's Encarta World English Dictionary is now Encarta Webster's Dictionary. The dictionary now called Webster's New Universal no longer uses the text referred to in the previous paragraph but is a commissioned version of the Random House Dictionary.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webster's_Dictionary

garrett200 · 06-07-2007, 08:25 AM

Originally Posted by nrmillions

Anyone is allowed to use the name Websters for a dictionary. Tons of companies use it. It is not illegal. Merriam-Websters though is an actual company that is TM and cannot be used.

Well then mine is OK, and the guy who has "MerriamWebster.mobi" is not?

Originally Posted by nrmillions

Anyone is allowed to use the name Websters for a dictionary. Tons of companies use it. It is not illegal. Merriam-Websters though is an actual company that is TM and cannot be used.

From Wikipedia:

[edit] The name "Webster" used by others
Since the late 19th century, dictionaries bearing the name "Webster's" have been published by companies other than Merriam-Webster. Some of these were pirated reprints of Noah Webster's work, some were revisions by others. One such revision was Webster's Imperial Dictionary, based on John Ogilvie's Imperial Dictionary, itself an expansion of Noah Webster's American Dictionary.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=336204

As a result of lawsuits filed by Merriam, American courts ruled that "Webster's" entered the public domain when the Unabridged did, in 1889 (G. & C. Merriam Co. v. Ogilvie, 159 Fed. 638 (1908)) and another court ruled in 1917 that it entered the public domain in 1834 when Noah Webster's 1806 dictionary's copyright lapsed. Thus, Webster's became a genericized trademark and others were free to use the name on their own works.

Since then, use of the name "Webster" has been rampant. Merriam-Webster goes to great pains to remind dictionary buyers that it alone is the heir to Noah Webster[1]. The issue is more complicated than that, however. Throughout the 20th century, some non-Merriam editions, such as Webster's New Universal, were closer to Webster's work than modern Merriam-Webster editions. Indeed, Merriam's progressive revisions came to have little in common with their original source, while the Universal, for example, was minimally revised and remained largely out of date. However, Merriam-Webster revisionists find solid ground in Noah Webster's concept of the English language as an ever-changing tapestry.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=336204

So many dictionaries of varied size and quality have been called Webster's that the name no longer has any specific brand meaning. Despite this, many people still recognize and trust the name. Thus, Webster's continues as a powerful and lucrative marketing tool. In recent years, even established dictionaries with no direct link to Noah Webster whatsoever have adopted his name, adding to the confusion. Random House dictionaries are now called Random House Webster's, and Microsoft's Encarta World English Dictionary is now Encarta Webster's Dictionary. The dictionary now called Webster's New Universal no longer uses the text referred to in the previous paragraph but is a commissioned version of the Random House Dictionary.

WOW. I am now very very glad that I have "WebstersDictionary.mobi" Thanks for that research, rep added.

*nrmillions* · 06-07-2007, 08:29 AM

Originally Posted by garrett200

Well then mine is OK, and the guy who has "MerriamWebster.mobi" is not?

Correct

Originally Posted by garrett200

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=336204
WOW. I am now very very glad that I have "WebstersDictionary.mobi" Thanks for that research, rep added.

Very good name! Thanks.

garrett200 · 06-07-2007, 08:31 AM

Originally Posted by nrmillions

Correct

Very good name! Thanks.

You're about to make your "thousandth" post....let's pop the cork again shall we?

......."pop"

*nrmillions* · 06-07-2007, 08:38 AM

Originally Posted by garrett200

You're about to make your "thousandth" post....let's pop the cork again shall we?

......."pop"

Thanks, I finally reached 1,000!!! Almost all of it has been in the .mobi section since September.

garrett200 · 06-07-2007, 08:48 AM

Wow, just found something very interesting.

The OVT for the singular and plural of "webster's dictionary" is about 241,000.

According to Wordtracker, the singular (Webster Dictionary) gets about half as many searches as the plural, about 3,350 per day. So the singular has roughly 80K OVT.

Just regged the singular version 5 minutes ago. Now I'm the Webster's Dictionary King. woohoo!

Anyone care to appraise WebstersDictionary.mobi or WebsterDictionary.mobi? Just out of curiosity what you think they are worth in aftermarket. And, does anyone know if "dictionary.mobi" is premium unreleased?

tony_np · 06-07-2007, 10:27 AM

E-E.mobi (English to English)

I am making a plan to develop it. good luck for me.

scandiman · 06-07-2007, 10:34 AM

Originally Posted by tony_np

E-E.mobi (English to English)

I am making a plan to develop it. good luck for me.

That should be easy to build.

Enter word in English: Car

Result in English: Car

06-06-2007, 11:41 AM	THREAD STARTER #1 (permalink)
namegeeks Account Suspended Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 383	Another poll: your dictionary .mobi name! Gentlemen: Do you have any dictionary .mobi names? Please post them here.

06-06-2007, 12:00 PM	THREAD STARTER #3 (permalink)
namegeeks Account Suspended Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 383	No point, just a poll. But PM me, and we can talk.

06-07-2007, 12:43 AM	THREAD STARTER #11 (permalink)
namegeeks Account Suspended Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 383	No gents, I am not buying currently Re: dictionary names that I registered, I have domain MerriamWebster.mobi, and it is not a TM name. More, the famous Chicago Manual of Style says that anyone can publish just any dictionary of this kind, and I think we can trust this source. Let me know what is your opinion about this domain.

06-07-2007, 08:22 AM	#18 (permalink)
nrmillions NamePros Supporter Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 1,906	Anyone is allowed to use the name Websters for a dictionary. Tons of companies use it. It is not illegal. Merriam-Websters though is an actual company that is TM and cannot be used. From Wikipedia: [edit] The name "Webster" used by others Since the late 19th century, dictionaries bearing the name "Webster's" have been published by companies other than Merriam-Webster. Some of these were pirated reprints of Noah Webster's work, some were revisions by others. One such revision was Webster's Imperial Dictionary, based on John Ogilvie's Imperial Dictionary, itself an expansion of Noah Webster's American Dictionary. As a result of lawsuits filed by Merriam, American courts ruled that "Webster's" entered the public domain when the Unabridged did, in 1889 (G. & C. Merriam Co. v. Ogilvie, 159 Fed. 638 (1908)) and another court ruled in 1917 that it entered the public domain in 1834 when Noah Webster's 1806 dictionary's copyright lapsed. Thus, Webster's became a genericized trademark and others were free to use the name on their own works. Since then, use of the name "Webster" has been rampant. Merriam-Webster goes to great pains to remind dictionary buyers that it alone is the heir to Noah Webster[1]. The issue is more complicated than that, however. Throughout the 20th century, some non-Merriam editions, such as Webster's New Universal, were closer to Webster's work than modern Merriam-Webster editions. Indeed, Merriam's progressive revisions came to have little in common with their original source, while the Universal, for example, was minimally revised and remained largely out of date. However, Merriam-Webster revisionists find solid ground in Noah Webster's concept of the English language as an ever-changing tapestry. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=336204 So many dictionaries of varied size and quality have been called Webster's that the name no longer has any specific brand meaning. Despite this, many people still recognize and trust the name. Thus, Webster's continues as a powerful and lucrative marketing tool. In recent years, even established dictionaries with no direct link to Noah Webster whatsoever have adopted his name, adding to the confusion. Random House dictionaries are now called Random House Webster's, and Microsoft's Encarta World English Dictionary is now Encarta Webster's Dictionary. The dictionary now called Webster's New Universal no longer uses the text referred to in the previous paragraph but is a commissioned version of the Random House Dictionary. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webster's_Dictionary Last edited by nrmillions; 06-07-2007 at 08:27 AM.

06-07-2007, 08:48 AM	#23 (permalink)
garrett200 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 2,310	Wow, just found something very interesting. The OVT for the singular and plural of "webster's dictionary" is about 241,000. According to Wordtracker, the singular (Webster Dictionary) gets about half as many searches as the plural, about 3,350 per day. So the singular has roughly 80K OVT. Just regged the singular version 5 minutes ago. Now I'm the Webster's Dictionary King. woohoo! Anyone care to appraise WebstersDictionary.mobi or WebsterDictionary.mobi? Just out of curiosity what you think they are worth in aftermarket. And, does anyone know if "dictionary.mobi" is premium unreleased? Last edited by garrett200; 06-07-2007 at 09:26 AM.

06-06-2007, 11:53 AM	#2 (permalink)
scandiman Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: living in exile Posts: 3,853	What is the point of this thread?

06-06-2007, 12:47 PM	#4 (permalink)
nrmillions NamePros Supporter Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 1,906	do you mean names that actually have dictionary in it such as EnglishDictionary.mobi or do you mean words that are just in the dictionary? for .mobi just because it is a dictionary word doesnt mean it is automatically good. people on the forums think that they can just hand reg any word that is in a dictionary in .mobi and that it is worth 4 or 5 figures right away or that it eventually will be worth tons of money. i have seen so many people reg worthless dictionary words every single day. people should think about who a potential end user would be, how much money those end users might have, if it would be something relevant to mobile content, and how they could develop the name to make money off of it before regging them. even if mobi becomes huge and mainstream a lot of those words will still only be worth regfee. of course there are tons of good dictionary words too but people get too carried away by the term dictionary word.

06-06-2007, 07:33 PM	#6 (permalink)
Jo Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 2,225	Are you buying? What's your budget? What sorts of names are you looking for in my dictionary? (I have a Collins Pocket Reference English Dictionary.) OH and where's the poll? I don't see a poll anywhere. Or did you mean a pole? Are you Polish? If there was a real pole here...maybe I'd dance!

06-06-2007, 08:27 PM	#7 (permalink)
Broker Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Philly Burbs Posts: 3,199	Structured.mobi

06-06-2007, 10:00 PM	#9 (permalink)
garrett200 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 2,310	GermanDictionary.mobi LatinDictionary.mobi WebstersDictionary.mobi ItalianDictionary.mobi ....If that's what you were talking about!

06-06-2007, 10:07 PM	#10 (permalink)
circa1850 Account Suspended Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: North Carolina Posts: 1,652	Seems like there are countless other threads regarding this. No offense, but not sure what it is a poll of, what criteria, number of letters? Singular, plural, past tense, english, medical, sexual? Hundreds and hundreds already posted. I've got close to 400 now and I would say 80% or more are dictionary.

06-07-2007, 08:12 AM	#17 (permalink)
garrett200 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 2,310	"POP" (sound of cork popping)

06-07-2007, 10:27 AM	#24 (permalink)
tony_np NamePros Regular Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 892	E-E.mobi (English to English) I am making a plan to develop it. good luck for me. __________________ No more available

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