binaryman

Just listened to the podcast now.
And I must say I'm not that impressed at all. Neil does not offer anything new. Seems to me there is no campaign of any sort coming at all to tickle consumer awareness. It looks like he expects the consumers to pick up .Mobi and run with it themselves. I think he believes .Mobi will become successful by it's own momentum. But is there real momentum? All the revenue generated by the sales of .Mobi thus far is going where? Sure a persentage was spent on .Mobi developers tools but that's a small persentage of total revenue. I also dont like the mans style(never have from the beginning actually) He sorta hums and hahs along and does not inspire any confidence. Also he does not speak very well, quite nasal and unconvincing. When I first saw photo's of him at various meetings and events it struck me that he only has one tie, a red one.( Maybe he has more then one red tie) But he always has a red tie and he looks kinda sloppy,not businessman like. His suit and tie dont cover up well for him. He struck me as a bit greasy and sleasy looking sorry to say. But I thought oh well dont judge a book by it's cover and lets see if he can make true all he promises. Well time has gone on and we are now 9 months down the road from then and I fear my first impressions were not so unfounded after all.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/dot-mobi/331745-my-thoughts-on-neil-edwards-podcast.html
Well I still hope I'm wrong but I am starting to worry that .Mobi is going to fizzle out like a damp squid sooner then later if this style of management and promotion of .Mobi is going to continue as it has up to now.
Just my 2 eurocents worth

-REECE-

See my other post. I believe it's intention to pass himself off in such a way.

binaryman

I hope you're right Reece.



I was wrong about his tie.

gemulder

I believe mTLD has done a great job till now and I rather trust a slumpy businessman than a "gladde aal"

There is no other extension supporting you that much and they will promote the extension if time is there DON'T WORRY!

I believe in NEIL EDWARDS :It's a wolve in sheapclothes.

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quasar1138

Neil Edwards is more of a "do-er" than a "speaker". If you look at most of his background his focus was executing process and policy at Verisign. Neil Edwards is not a "Steve Jobs". I think that he will do exactly what he says he will do because that is all that he has ever done in the past. Give him time...he will get the job done.

My suggestion for DotMobi..Let Neil do the job he was appointed to do and get a public spokesperson to speak on behave of DotMobi. ;-)

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scandiman

IMO one of the most important things accomplished by mtld to date is dev.mobi. I know this is a domainers forum but .mobi was not created for domainers. Their priorities are in the right place, supporting people interested in developing their .mobi domains. It's all about content people, without it there is nothing.

garrett200

HAMMER, NAIL

binaryman

Well I do hope I get proven totally wrong here.

scandiman

In general I agree that the interview was underwhelming. Kind of a yawner. But I'm curious what kind of promotion would you like to see being done differently? Please be as specific as possible.

mjnels

those pictures of Neil Edwards are cracking me up everytime i open this thread..

labrocca

If they are serious about promotion and development then why don't I see ads at places like sitepoint or DP? Places where developers are should be first line of advertising. There are thousands of corporate developers at sitepoint and if you can get that crowd into your good graces they might just recommend to their clients to get a mobi. It's beneficial to the developer as it's work and of course it's a benefit to mobi obviously. Yet...they haven't done that.

If you search SP from mobi or dotmobi...results are pathetic.

I try and move around other forums to get an overview of mobi and the general concensus is that mobi is irrelevant.

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yoyosean

Developers are just that developers. There is a reason why there is ALWAYS conflict between the tech side and business side of companies. Mobi is relevant due to Branding purposes it is all about branding with .mobi. New clothing lines are also irrelevant there is no reason for new clothing lines to come out because there are plenty of clothes in the market place but the marketing campaigns and the branding behind the brands is what drives the market. It is all about building consumer awareness not developer awareness. Just my two cents.

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scandiman

Promoting .mobi on a dev forum that is not mobile focused would be futile and it comes as no surprise to me that there would be little discussion about .mobi there.

EDIT: after visiting sitepoint it is painfully obvious that .mobi wouldn't be a point of discussion there. Their domain names section has featured articles, the top 3 are dated Feb 2006, April 04 and Oct 03 respectively. If people go there for insights on domains they still think .mobi is a proposal and not even released yet. Promoting .mobi there is like selling commercial real estate at the structural iron-workers union hall.

binaryman

Well for a start I'd like them to give some sort of vision and timescheme as to how they plan to eventually unlease .Mobi onto the general public. And also some definite guidelines as to what criteria are required for this to happen.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=331745
Also they might consider warming the public up a bit already by some kind of tantalising adverts to build up expectations of something big about to happen soon in the mobile world. You know sort of creating a feeling of something that's about to happen in the mobile world that will be beneficial and fun for the public. A teaser, a glimpse of some sort, lifting the veil a tiny little bit. Make the public aware something is coming and get their interest up.

scandiman

How does a registry unleash a tld on the public?

binaryman

Well hell, I'm no advertising guru. I'll leave the "HOW" up to them, with all the money they have made so far I'm sure they can afford the top ad agency to create an ad campaign for them.

labrocca

I develop for clients. I have complete influence over the technologies they use and HOW they are implemented. If I told a client they needed a mobi site..they would do it. Companies listen to their tech side since they themselves are rather clueless as to what's emerging. That's the point of having developers.
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And what branding has mobi done so far?

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scandiman

Well, how about what would you like them to promote to the general public at this point?

binaryman

The Mobile Internet of course.See what I wrote a few lines up. Let them know something is soon to happen that will change the mobile as they know it. Some kind of tantalizing hints to get the public interested and hungry for more news.

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scandiman

I see now, you edited that post and I didn't see it until you pointed it out.

Jeff

I think the actual question regarding the RFP's and "RFP's process" was not addressed directly to the questioner's intent, IMHO. I remember hearing more on this lead-in subject about ICANN and then the history of how .MOBI and its present "consortium" evolved, etc. ... but I'll listen to it again to further clarify, as well.

The most significant thing that can be done NOW / YESTERDAY (which, again, I did not hear addressed or with any sense of urgency in the referenced Podcast) to promote to the general public is the four initial RFP's ... and then firm plans for the remainer of the RFP's and Reserved names into the hands of developers!
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=331745

Saying "That's a very good question" over and over, but not ever really with a lot of substance to then answer the very good questions ... should not exactly inspire confidence in the extension, in my humble view.
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-REECE-

My initial opinion of Neil was that he was a twit. He really seems like a guy who should be flipping burgers, not running a multibillion dollar corporation inside of a few years (if we are to believe .mobi to succeed at .com level or greater).

I'm starting to believe that this is more of an orchestrated play, and that Neil is trying to deceive us by playing the "dumb" card.

If you think about it -- it makes perfect sense! What's the best way to discourage domainers from investing in an extension? Act like a twit, break promises, lie incessantly, never get to the point, never follow through, avoid questions which are "hard" to answer, I could go on...
IS THIS A STRATEGY?

Am I paranoid, or does mtld perhaps think they can discourage domainers from investing in the extension by managing things like a bunch of amateurs?

Surely to GOD, nobody could be so clueless and be given authority to run such a "world changing" extension? Is Neil really this clueless on how to run a business of this magnitude, or are we the clueless ones -- pawns of this mastermind's scheme; a scheme to discourage cybersquatters, domainers, and speculators alike, to ensure a greater likelihood of success for this extension, which very well may alter the mobile web as we know it?

You choose. I think Neil's alot brighter than he appears -- or acts.

labrocca

hehe..funny post Reece.

I can't say much about Neil personally but the type your describing isn't exactly flattering. imho mTLD is at face value exactly what it appears to be..an extension created by marketers spawned from the mobile phone industry. You can't say the low $xx million spawn of a dozen multi-BILLION dollar corporations is really anything significant. What's really puzzling is the domainer effect. Well..I take that back..as most the domainers I see falling for mobi are really just looking for an easy buck (nothing wrong with that mind you).

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-REECE-

Yep, it's exactly as you said -- mostly newbies looking to "strike gold". I've been investing in stocks seriously for the past 10 years. I know that there is no such thing as an easy buck. Sure, you might make money fast, as I did with Google. But any investor with half a nut for a brain would be carefully following news briefings, reading up on the company, comparing earnings this quarter to previous ones, reading up on their acquisitions, what their acquisitions may be useful for, etc on a daily basis (not all of those points obviously, but you get the point). So in the end, it's not easy money. I worked for it just the same. Only a fool (and I know alot of them!) would put a substantial amount of money in something and let their stockbroker, portfolio manager, etc do all the work, and just assume all things will be fine and dandy. Anyone know how many stockbrokers can't pick stocks any better than monkeys? The number is suprisingly high...

Bottom line is that with any investment, striking it rich is not going to be easy. Whether it's about holding on to your investment for years (through the ups and downs), or investing substantial amounts of money to realize large returns in a small amount of time, the end result is the same -- you need a certain mentality to stand a chance at succeeding.

I've put around $7000 in .mobi up to now. I'm considering on upping that to $20,000 or so, but am still undecided -- I'd like to know some facts (i.e. RFP) beforehand. Am I going to strike it rich off my .mobi investment of $7000? Hell no. What about an investment of $20,000? Of course not!

To make money, you need money and you need balls. I don't have the balls to put more than $20,000 in .mobi, it just seems like a junk bond to me. People need to stop thinking of .mobi as a "get rich quick scheme" and rather as a high risk/high reward investment. If I can turn my $20,000 investment into $100,000, have alot of fun in the process, and make myself a cool site, would I be happy? HELL YEAH! That's a 500% ROI in a few years time. What kind of fool wouldn't be happy with that? Funny thing is that I've invested more than probably 75% of people have, yet I'd say 90% of those who've invested think they're going to make millions. Who's being realistic, and who's not here? An average stock takes about 6 years to double in value -- you'd be looking at roughly 15 years to achieve a 5-fold increase in value. And .mobi might do that in 5 years?

IMO, .mobi is an excellent investment. The risk/reward ratio is greatly in our favor, but is .mobi a get rich quick scheme? No. Is .mobi a get rich quick over time scheme? Likely not. Will you, me, or 99% of domainers get rich off .mobi? Likely not. Will you, me, or 50%+ of domainers experience considerably better returns than could be expected with alternative investments? Perhaps -- I wouldn't say it's not possible or even not likely.

mjnels

ol Neil's watchin you Reece..

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