binaryman

http://www.mobilemag.com/content/100/333/C12682/

-REECE-

Yep, that's exactly the kind of stuff I'm trying to tell people of here.

I'm not a hater... I'm a realist. Mtld needs to act fast, or else we may all be using devices like that, only cell phone sized in a few years.

edit: Perhaps we should post 100 devices like this on their blog which are currently in development. If they're unaware that they're in a race against time -- they certainly will be aware afterwards!

edit #2: Here's some more courtesy of www.dynamism.com :

http://www.dynamism.com/sa1/main.shtml
http://www.dynamism.com/q1/main.shtml
http://www.dynamism.com/r2h/main.shtml
http://www.dynamism.com/i7210/main.shtml
http://www.dynamism.com/vega/main.shtml
http://www.dynamism.com/htc-shift/main.shtml
http://www.dynamism.com/tuftab-v7112xt/main.shtml

PC World:

http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,131889/article.html
http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,131620/article.html
http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,129634/article.html
http://blogs.pcworld.com/staffblog/archives/003921.html
http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,131933/article.html

Windows For Devices:
http://www.windowsfordevices.com/news/NS2929854481.html
http://www.windowsfordevices.com/news/NS2391785137.html
http://www.windowsfordevices.com/news/NS4596527542.html

And don't forget industry pioneer OQO -- www.oqo.com (also included in the link just above).

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circa1850

You STILL can not talk on it, put it in your pocket, or take it out in to the woods hiking and communicate without special cards.

It is portable...not mobile. It is the new PC...not the new phone.

The UMPC is not new. It's been out for a couple of years now. How many do you see? How many of these do you see people carrying around text messaging someone else or have it up to their ear?

italiandragon

everyone has a point here:

1) it`s not hard to make those UMPC devices become phones too
2) mobile phones will still have little screens because mobile phone will need to be small

so to me both will be able to have their success, I don`t see .mobi in danger at all.

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I agree, they better make as much money as possible as soon as possible. It's only a matter of time and .mobi will be dead. If the cell phones coming out dont kill it, it'll be the whatever.com/mobile ext that will imho.

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vJRB

The way I see it, the better the phones, the better I can make my .mobi sites

htmlindex

Imagine carrying these devices in your pocket

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I do not see this as a threat to dotmobi .

circa1850

Gonna have to have very big pockets or a "man pocketbook"...

The larger UMPCs -- available in a Vaio UX1-like sliding form factor or a more solid tablet style -- with their 7-inch displays will likely be powered by Windows Vista, whereas the smaller MIDs -- with their 4.5-inch to 6-inch color screens (800x480 pixels to 1024x600 pixels) -- will probably get their operating juice from Linux OS.

Doesn't give actual sizes, just screen sizes.

If this replaces the phone, then fine...game over.

This is the PC of the future, not the phone of the future.

Big difference...game on!

quasar1138

Actually, this is great news for all of the Internet and individuals that want to get access to its content. In the very near future, consumers around the world will have a choice as to how they pick and access their Internet content. They can purchase small computing type devices with 3G, WIMAX, WIFI,. etc connections or purchase intelligent phones that have similar functions but more portable functions. As more and more handheld devices are produced and distributed throughout the world, the more that corporations, advertisers, content providers and media companies will spend to reach that audience. This is absolutely wonderful news and a ideal situation for all of the Internet TLDs. This is exciting. :-)

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circa1850

Scenario...

I am hiking the Appalachian trial. I get lost.

Do I take out my Garmin GPS? Great, that tell me where I am and potentially how I can get out.

Do I take out my Sony UMPC? Nice, if I have an internet connection I can text message the nearest rescue and search team or find my approximate position on a map. If I don't have a map already loaded and an internet connection, I'm screwed but I can play hearts until the search party finds me or the battery runs out.

Do I take out my cell phone? Damn, might not be GPS enabled. Call 911, any local emergency dispatcher will notify the proper authorities or agencies. I can talk to them and tell them I hear them coming from the east, I see the helicopter about 5 miles out at an approximate location. I text message friends that I need help. I call home tell the wife I am late. I look up en-route.mobi and find the nearest bar to where I am landing so I can take the rescue crew out for beer and pizza.

If it is GPS enabled, it will tell me where I am and at what waypoint I am at, and where and in what direction I need to go to get out.

I can look up PapaJohns Pizza and see if they'll deliver to me...air drop my pizza.

One device...a mobile phone...with mapping, text messaging, navigation, search menu, with a mobile internet...oh, and I can talk on it.

Small, lightweight, portable, convenient, easy to use, no roaming charges, put in my pocket and go.

GAME ON!

namewaiter

yea ... i don't think the Appalachian Trail is a wifi hotspot

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italiandragon

don`t worry, I`m sure in a couple of years it will

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Only via satellite because the rednecks would steal the remote equipment and recycle the metal for cash. Hey, just talking about real world problems here.

circa1850

If copper tubing is involved, that is "still" material there. No way would that get turned in.

I would, in all actuality, like to see if my Verizon wireless card would pick up on the laptop. As long as there is a tower around (my God, what am I saying! They are every where) it should get a signal.

Still, lets face it...what do you want to put into your pocket (other than money and condoms)...a laptop, a UMPC, a Garmin or Magellan GPS (they are kind of fun to play with), a TOM TOM Navigation system, or a slim line phone that can do it all and take the place of any of the aforementioned devices in a pinch...yes even the navigation system.

nombre

great post ... the number of people that want to lug these things around don't amount to diddly

90% of people want to carry small phones, mtld knows this and this is their target market, the small phone with a small screen

fast loading, simple, easy to use mobi websites is the answer to mobile computing via the mobile phone

these devices are geek toys which will never gain enough market share to matter

90% of users want a very simple small device which will reliably do 2 or 3 things a day while on the go

dream on my geek friends ....

scandiman

Nor will these geek toys be available for $19.95 with a 2-year contract. Got to keep our eye on the masses. All I see here is a concert hall full of 2" screens.

-REECE-

Clearly you weren't part of the smartphone/pda revolution. What was the main motivation most companies stopped making pda's in the 2004-2006 timeframe?

Believe it or not -- it was because they didn't believe anyone would want a pda without cellular capability if a pda of comparable size could be had with cellular capability.

Smartphones started out as big as these UMPCs... I remember some of the first ones when I bought my Toshiba e740... Looked at these beasts and wondered who the hell would ever want one. They were goddamn expensive too which didn't aid their cause.

Well, that's no longer the cause, nor will it be for UMPCs in the near future. Intel has far more marketing power than all those companies "supporting" mtld combined. If you really believe it's more about marketing than the quality of the product -- something which I believe to be true, you'll have a hard time thinking of this one to be a failure. It's as simple as Intel starts using underclocked Pentium M's rather than Xscale processors, and bye bye cell phones overnight.

These devices are the future...

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scandiman

What price point do you see them having?

-REECE-

3 years -- <$500
That will put them where high end smartphones are today (i.e. iPhone) and will take out that market.
Give it some time and they'll come down further. It's somewhat like LCD TV's -- the money you pay for the TV is to pay for the research & development efforts it took to make it, they actually cost less than CRT's in materials.

5 years -- <$300.

There will likely always -- or at least for the conceivable future be a market for the cell phone for $19.99 with a contract. I don't see these devices getting there anytime soon. But how many Americans, Canadians, Europeans, etc would not be willing to pay an extra $200-$300 and have a full blown computer? This thing could even wipe out the need for a laptop in due time.

And considering the citizens of these wealthier countries are the same people that advertisers are primarily interested in -- should be interesting to see what unfolds.

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Rochemontagne

Are there cell towers near the Appalachian Trail? I live in Colorado and most of the mountainous forest areas do not have cell towers so cell phones are useless.

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-REECE-

Eventually, and I do mean long term, we'll probably migrate to satellite technology as a whole. I used to live in a small town -- cell phones were less than useful there.

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Master Chief

I think that the ".mobi season" will be a short one. It's just my gut feeling.

I am happy for all those who have made money in the secondary market however; I would personally start to focus on liquidating my portfolio if I had any to sell.

Good luck to one and all.

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movingconcierge

At some point too, we will communicate without devices of any type...

-REECE-

I remember reading awhile back about a guy who had a cell phone built into a fake tooth. Not anywhere near mainstream mind you, and I don't feel like knocking out 1 of my teeth

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