frank

.mobi is not a faliure : MAY be a Future.


It is a new extention for mobile people .almost everyone of us has a mobile phone , but

only less than a quarter use it for internet . IN the near future when there will be more

users using internet on their mobile phones , this extention will be very successfull. The

mobile market is 3 times bigger than the internet market . and even if a quarter of the

mobile users will use internet on their phones , will be for Business , Bookings tickets ,

reading emails , sending messages , videos download , games /music downloads play online

games etc.
eg jamster.co.uk will be a great example what people will be doing on mobiles

I currently and in the future donot see domains like homeschool.mobi , sportsbook.mobi

have any use in the mobile phones . and eg : sportsbook.mobi can be used for an online scrap

jounal ? who may have the time for all this stuff ? who knows .... the buyer seems to have a

strong knowledge of his domains worth and what he is going to do in future will multiply his

investments as he bought this domain for almost 129800 dolallrs


say for eg : he gets 3 times the return of his investment in 2 years :

that makes it 129800 *3 = 389400 $ a lot of MONEY...

IS he crazy or are we crazy not realizing the potential of these things ???

FACT : more than 1000s of .mobi domains are worthless and Useless and not even worth the

registration fees even people just see its used to be a good dotcom name like Butter.com ,

woodenfloors.com , and have values in xx,xxx SO whats the purpose of a Butter.mobi ,, will

people want to order butter from their mobilephones or butter to reload money in their

mobile phones ?

people will not want woodenfloors.mobi to order or see wood :: TO buy wood you actually have

to see wood from a showroom . this domain can only be used for a wood contact persons

company ,, with type in traffic . woodenfloors.mobi .. ( most probably i will see a parking

page stating this website is for sale for 50,000 US give your best offers.. )

so the person will probably go to a .com site to see or get wooden floors. as the screen may

be bigger than a mobile phones pda etc.

What i understand is where there is a purpose for something there is a value of something :

Hotelres.mobi and hotel.mobi.. has a purpose . people will definately will do hotel

reservations from mobile phones.. so these are the things.. to register and hold and will

have real value in future..
the .mobi people have left these all to us HOW well we develop their extention and how good

we use it and when we develop a site like onlinehotelreservations.mobi and it may sell

like xx,xxx THE .mobi reserved domains will have value like xxx,xxx and they will then cash

all the RESERVED GEMS...


Best of luck to all Dot.mobi Domainers

Thanks

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Frankbacardi@hotmail.com

DNBro

I’m truly agreeing with you this time.

Even after mobile market is three times larger than Internet market, most of the world is still unaware of about mobi domains. Anyways it will continue for few more years.
In case everything goes well with mobile technology, m-commerce will become more popular than e-commerce, due to its easy accessibility and privacy.

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I have had words with the Mobile industry proffesionals , Internet industry professional , Domainers ..

Every one seem to have a different views . internet industry relies on dot.com as before .mobis , .coms were used people would go google.com instead of google.mobi ,

Mobile industry have a view that this will be a great extention as the Major industry professional like T -online , vodafone and orange are backing this

Domainers like us are registering the most useless domains of this extention. which have real values if were dot.coms ,, like my example of butter.com

Eg . if even its a generic name , generic one word whats the use of it for eg
standby.mobi ?

BoySummerCamp.mobi ?? whats the purpose ??

New comers are registering and wasting money in domains and in dot.mobis.

For eg There is a purpose and can be done on mobile phones and will be perfect when done on mobile phone .
::
FindEscorts.mobi will have a good potential , to find escorts on mobile . may have value after development .
find escorts , or searchescorts.mobi , or beautifulescorts.mobi.
So these may have values.

like flowers.mobi sold to Rich , 200,000 $ which is parked and have add of dot.coms sites to send online flowers.

Final conclusion : names which have a purpose on mobile phones have a values and rest are not worth .

Frank

RaviUTA

Nice.. Have to check my Names and drop the silly ones

Jeff

Without a doubt ... the past, present, and future winner here is mTLD itself!

Regards.
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dentalpro

the seller and buyer of sportsbook are BIG winners also...go read up on bodog...not just mtld will make a living from .mobi (not many people go into a venture with a plan to make no money...why shouldnt they make money?) many many people have a chance to make complete businesses from their .mobi domain...hard to find a BETTER example than sportsbook...imho

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acc

If you think like the herd you will always stay in the herd.

Dot mobi generics are at the very least another method of advertising. Think billboard, magazine, radio or tv commercial, and then website. Yes some names are much better than others but you have to consider the 1000's of industries and different types of businesses out there in the real world. Each one has its own marketing needs and its own best relevant search terms that brings it customers.

You have to think like a marketer not like a domainer to see the real potential value of many domain names. We all tend to live within our own frame of reference. It's a vastly larger world out there.

So if there are 60 million dot com names registered today, the 1/2 million dot mobis regged so far is just a drop in the bucket. Of course many of them that we see mentioned are not going to be profitable for the current owners - especially if they don't develop them or get them into the hands of someone who has an appropriate and applicable business use for the names. And for some it may take several years worth of reg fees to do.

Good generic terms are inherently worth more and can be more easily developed to be be worth a lot more. Pure "brandable" names might sound nice but they have a substantially smaller potential buyer base ... but can with a lot of effort and luck be developed into profitability. And some generic terms can have double meanings or can be branded by savvy marketers into something completely unexpected.

It all comes down to creativity and vision and taking the risk. Sometimes you just have to break out of the herd.
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scandiman

I honestly find your perspectives confusing. If I can interpret correctly, finding a last minute flight or a summer camp for your son is worthless but finding a hooker is where the potential is? I'm not saying that "escort".mobi's don't have their merits but there is a whole world outside of getting laid.

mykel241

I do think that finding escorts on a mobile device makes more sense then summer camps and hate to say it more purposeful. Its the reality. The adult services section of Craigslist are the most popular so if you take that model mobile then you have a win-win. It is just something I would not do though...lol

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Yeah, TRUE!!! I said that 18 years ago.

To make mTLD richer LOL


Seriously, your post is little bit confusing

rosh86

lol!!!!!!!!

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frank

" Dot mobi generics are at the very least another method of advertising. Think billboard, magazine, radio or tv commercial, and then website. Yes some names are much better than others but you have to consider the 1000's of industries and different types of businesses out there in the real world. Each one has its own marketing needs and its own best relevant search terms that brings it customers. "

In dot.coms these can be used in a variety of things like you said 1000s of industrues ,,ets.

for eg :
billboard.mobi , This may have all the latest charts
magazine.mobi , This may point to all the magazine adds on a mobile screen .

if you say magazine.com will be mobile compatible , people may go to a dotcom first . Type ins traffic will be to dotcoms ..

radio.mobi , could be parked and all radio companies will advertise on it .. maybe a radiochannel buys this name to be seen on mobile devices ?

website.mobi may have all the websites of .mobis


Talk about :grease.mobi ? will people actually go to grease.mobi , for a grease buy for anything , or will a company may want grease.mobi for their contents to be delievered on mobiles , for 5000 $ or will go for grease.com ? for something more ?

Will people in 5 years time order a grave directly from their mobile phone type in
OR may be a rockstar will come with the album Grave .. So grave.mobi will have values ..
Grave.mobi ?


people have different opinions of every domains.. thats why there are buyers and sellers..

rocknrollo

woodenfloors.mobi IMHO

So if I am shopping for wooden floors and i want info this "wood" be a great resource.

And I think this type of name has value when .mobi gets populatity

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scandiman :

I honestly find your perspectives confusing. If I can interpret correctly, finding a last minute flight or a summer camp for your son is worthless but finding a hooker is where the potential is? I'm not saying that "escort".mobi's don't have their merits but there is a whole world outside of getting laid
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Reply : This escorts.mobi was just an example to explain the .mobi extention. as someone on forum wanted an appraisal for findescorts.mobi If you think there is a potential for people searching for a summer camp for your son on their mobile devices THEN go for it . even if there is an OVT that sounds great I think i will go to a dot.com site for the summer camp.

>> OVT counts for the searches done in a search engine and a website and the bidding terms for that month not the searches done from a mobile phone <<
so currently if an overture of 300,000 comes for a word or a site, people are going on searches and on dot coms.. not the 300,000 people are coming on to mobis site.

The second option of yours is Great .. Finding a lastminute flight as its done on the dot.com lastminute.com . I will definately book an online flight through last.mobi , or lastminute.mobi , from my mobile phone .. maybe to get a connecting flight at the airport , where i may not have an internet kiosk , or may not have my laptop or computer access.

I may also book a hotel, like i do at booking.com ,, so book.mobi , or booking.mobi ..

Or they also may become compatible like yahoo.com , before .mobi i typed yahoo.com from my mobile phone .. it gets me a search page. and there i go .
I used to get stock quotes , and the daily news .

and cnn.com was my favourite site. havent thought about going to cnn.mobi

Here in Dubai , Every one knows about the internet ,, almost 1 % knows about the .mobi extention.. IF you are a domainer you know dot.mobi..

If you say yahoo.mobi , people say what on earth is mobi ?
seeing the new yahoo onesearch portal..

People Keep your hopes high .
Best of luck with Dot.mobi extention

thanks.

scandiman

Yes, people have different opinions and more importantly different interests. What typically connects people's interests to internet content is a search engine, not type in traffic. So the value of a name like BoysSummerCamp.mobi is not the type in traffic but the opportunity to have a stronger position via url weighting in SEO to capture some of the OVT estimated 185,057 search volume for the term. Am I saying it is the best reg out there? Not even close. but if the search volume is even close to accurate then the site could garner some traffic if developed. Without development it isn't likely worth more than reg fee. Again, back to the escort topic, I agree with both you and Michael that it is probably going to be a good market for mobile, much better than boys summer camps. But not everyone wants to be involved in that and instead are pursuing other things, be it Reece with his antioxidants or another NP members network of sites regarding dog breeds. There is room and a need for all content, yes even graves. Will it be a killer website in the mobile space (sorry for the bad pun)? Who knows but if the owner sells one gravestone a week from it then it is worth far more than reg fee to the owner.

Work In Progress

Damn You Scandi...you're inspiring me to spend some more. Because of your response, I looked into gravestones.mobi, which BTW, is available...which lead to further digging (pun intended) and as it turned out, I'm the proud owner of graveyards.mobi

I'm gonna have to start looking for one myself when my wife finds out how many mobis I've regged

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Lol Mark..

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Just so you do know, a sportsbook actually is one of the most popular terms in sports betting -- it means the set of odds (likelihood of winning).

In that regard, it's already a good name. Couple that with the fact that the owner is indeed the owner of www.sportsbook.com, you can see that there was more than a .mobi at stake here. Would he think kindly of someone turning sportsbook.mobi into a porn site or worse -- another sports gambling site? He has a vested interest in this name, and to him, that was worth $129,800.

You're correct -- many people are going crazy and buying names (sometimes even on the aftermarket) for large sums of money merely on the basis of what the .com went for. It is not an intelligent investment to purchase your names merely based on what other extensions have gone for. Many .mobi owners are very new to the field of domaining, for some reason, this method of thought seems to be quite common when people are starting out, although it is flawed.

Keep in mind, that just because a name doesn't necessarily sound mobile-compatible to you or I, it doesn't necessarily mean it couldn't be.

If we take woodenfloors.mobi as an example... Does that sound useless to the mobile web? It sure does!

But...

What if I implemented the site in such a way that it could determine the closest stores nearby that sold wood floring? What if I allowed people to search by distance, price, customer satisfaction, etc?

Now, it actually sounds like a viable site... Of course, this logic can't be applied to all sites that are registered -- without a doubt, some .mobis are unimaginably poor regs, but do think twice about what may be a good or bad .mobi, attempt to extrapolate what you know to be mobile, by adding features that are mobile to a site which wouldn't be mobile by default.

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labrocca

It's so fun reading the mobi section lately.

Finally some differing opinions and views and not the same old follow the leader routine. Very healthy imho.

Why don't hookers get any respect? That's really what I want to know. These women are risking their lives and health to help men get their kicks. It's a dirty job and someone has to do it. Escorts need love too ya know.

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Look at all the great men that have needed one through history when their wife/wives just couldn't satisfy them enough

And yes, on your other point, I agree that it's nice to see differing opinions.

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>>Just so you do know, a sportsbook actually is one of the most popular terms in sports betting -- it means the set of odds (likelihood of winning).

In that regard, it's already a good name. Couple that with the fact that the owner is indeed the owner of www.sportsbook.com, you can see that there was more than a .mobi at stake here.

Would he think kindly of someone turning sportsbook.mobi into a porn site or worse another sports gambling site? He has a vested interest in this name, and to him, that was worth $129,800.

What if I implemented the site in such a way that it could determine the closest stores nearby that sold wood floring? What if I allowed people to search by distance, price,customer satisfaction, etc? <<


Thanks Reece for your feedback , know the sportsbook story , just used here for an example , imagine the live bets made on mobile phones in a live game, from a mobile phone , and then calculate the revenues $$$ But i think 129800 was too much for this domain , if you were to value sportsbook.com , you may value it less than sportsbook.mobi , But the company needed the domain so it had value for them. AND like yahoo.com running on mobile phones The same sportsbook.com could be programmed to run on a mobile phone /pda..

If you could implement something like that for woodflooring.mobi , Go ahead with this type of ideas , Develop things like this , and if you see potential in it go for it. Tarkett.com is a leading wood floor company. may be they or others can find something like this intresting in the next 5 years . But then again you have to see the product somewhere after getting their contact , price and distance of stores . AND when selling it to a end consumer , will the end consumer go for a Dot.com in 5000 $ or a Dot.mobi for 5000$ ?


Need more suggestions.

Thanks

-REECE-

You're right on both counts. For one thing, if I was the sportsbook.com owner, I would have offered 1/10 that amount and if the owner refused to sell, I would have waited for the owner to put gambling material on it and then file a UDRP on him. Sounds cruel, but quite honestly, if he wasn't willing to sell that name for 10-12k, clearly his intentions are up for debate.

As for the wood floor example, I agree also. BUT, what if I acquired woodfloors.mobi for $10 because I regged it. Could it not be conceivable that I could get $500 for it in a few years time with a little development?

Many domainers here will be very wealthy, even if .mobi became worth 1/10 of .com on an average, name by name basis... So whether it overtakes .com or not is not necessarily what we have to discuss, but rather if it's a viable extension where people can currently expect to receive very large ROI by capitalizing on the public's lack of knowledge about the mobile web and many seller's inexperience appraising the value of their names when reliable tools which could be used for the regular web are no longer compatible with this new incarnation of the Internet.

With the latter statement in regard, I believe that .mobi is an excellent opportunity for one to perhaps profit immensely with an investment as small as 10-20k.

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scandiman

I feel it has always been that way, but since your disdain for mobi has let up a bit you don't see everything as being pro mobi.