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http://www.mobileburn.com/pressrelease.jsp?Id=3370
"Nuance expects to serve more than one billion consumers within the next three years with voice-based mobile solutions..."

Wow, and I thought mtld had a lofty goal... Great find
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Voice is definitely going to be huge on mobile phones, thats why I wouldnt really worry about length for mobile names. Just make sure the words are good.
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Nice find indeed! I posted info about the "Nuance Mobile Vision" here:
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Originally Posted by nrmillions
Voice is definitely going to be huge on mobile phones, thats why I wouldnt really worry about length for mobile names. Just make sure the words are good.
I agree.

IMO, we'll need 10ghz+ chips before voice recognition will be capable of running effectively -- i.e. having genuine intelligence and knowing your voice from that of a colleague in the background, determining the nature of your use of the word quickly and efficiently, etc.
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Of course, even 10ghz may not be that far away... A gallium arsenide or surface plasmon chip could easily provide the necessary horsepower while maintaining the voltage requirements cell phones require.

The future sure looks fascinating!
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I am wondering how hypen names will play out in this new voice command technology?
buyflowers vs buy-flowers?
Hopefully the software will give the customer a choice of either site.
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I am wondering how hypen names will play out in this new voice command technology?
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buyflowers vs buy-flowers?
Hopefully the software will give the customer a choice of either site.
(Because I own some nice hypens!)
Worst case scenario -- you'll rank well in search engines for your names -- now that wouldn't be too bad would it
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Originally Posted by nrmillions
Voice is definitely going to be huge on mobile phones, thats why I wouldnt really worry about length for mobile names. Just make sure the words are good.

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Sorry, just made me titter a little, mobiles would be pretty useless without voice - difficult to hear.

And I misread their link - thought it was Mobile Bum - could not get to the bottom of it.
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Originally Posted by Reece
"Nuance expects to serve more than one billion consumers within the next three years with voice-based mobile solutions..."
The Motley Fool guys picked Nuance a while back in their Hidden Gems service. Stock price has gone up about 2.5x since the middle of last summer. I can't say I've studied their business in depth, but there are a lot of people following that part of the market who think Nuance has some real potential.
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Originally Posted by nrmillions
Voice is definitely going to be huge on mobile phones, thats why I wouldnt really worry about length for mobile names. Just make sure the words are good.
My thoughts exactly....
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Originally Posted by cosmik debris
Keep an eye on these guy's........
http://www.mobileburn.com/pressrelease.jsp?Id=3370
This link contains great info that all should read. Very important find!
I like this: "Nuance expects to serve more than one billion consumers within the next three years with voice-based mobile solutions that allow people to simply and effectively navigate, retrieve and transact across the vast and growing universe of content and services available in mobile phones, automobiles and personal navigation devices."
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Wow! A billion people! Sweet market!
Also noticed some mobi backer names listed in press release.
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There's a big difference between market hype, bold claims, and market acceptance.

To put it bluntly, most investors don't know their head from their a$$. How many people invested in gold or energy/oil early on after 9/11? It was a no-brainer that these things would take off...

I'm not trying to bash this, or anything else related to .mobi, but who seriously thinks this company will have 1 billion VR (voice recognition) users inside of 3 years?

Let's face it... It's 2007, and even to this day, VR software solutions for desktop computers are about as effective as dictating a document to a 12 year old. There's a long, long way to go before we see this type of technology take off.

Regardless of any innovation, whether it be in multi-core cell phone chips, chips made out of exotic materials, chips based on nanophotonic/plasmonic technologies, etc, it will take much longer than 3 years for the technology to gain market acceptance. I would venture to say 10 years would be a more realistic timeframe, should they hold a monopoly in this market.

We need better VR algorithms and much higher processing power for more intelligent computing before this thing will ever take off...

Just because a stock is hyped really doesn't mean much. Bre-X always comes to mind when I think of hyped things that have flopped big time. Investing in anything without the prerequisite knowledge to fully understand what you're investing in, is not investing IMO -- It's sheer stupidity. It's the same reason we had Bubble 1.0.
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Today, the investment bubble IMO is biotech and nanotech. Don't those words sound cool? Shouldn't we all go out and put our money in companies working on quantum computers (and cryptography) that work quadrillions of times faster than computers today and have codes which are 100% impossible for even the CIA to crack?

Sounds great -- until you do some research into quantum entanglement (for quantum cryptography) and find out how hard it is to build a quantum computer granted the difficulty in reading quibits without destroying their superposition -- superposition is the fundamental necessity for quantum computing.

Perhaps by the time quantum computing is readily available, computers based on the DNA of viruses or more complex organisms will be mainstream and the need for quantum computers won't be as apparent as today.

What about nanoparticles and their promise for nanomedecine and nanoengineering? Doesn't it sound great to have a little intelligent nanobot injected through a needle that could go into your body and repair damaged DNA, kill cancer without harming the rest of the body, etc? Who wouldn't invest in that kind of technology?

Well, how many years of trials do you think, first of all, will be necessary before it's given approval? Do you think the FDA wants big pharma destroyed overnight? What about the social and moral implications of a eugenics-based transhumanist society?

Moral of the story -- just because something sounds great, it doesn't mean it is or will be great, and perhaps the technology is so far out, it ceases to matter for everyday life in the present.
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Opera browser for desktops already has a well function voice command system. I have used it...very impressive really.
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Originally Posted by Reece
There's a big difference between market hype, bold claims, and market acceptance.

I'm not trying to bash this, or anything else related to .mobi, but who seriously thinks this company will have 1 billion VR (voice recognition) users inside of 3 years?

Let's face it... It's 2007, and even to this day, VR software solutions for desktop computers are about as effective as dictating a document to a 12 year old. There's a long, long way to go before we see this type of technology take off.

Regardless of any innovation, whether it be in multi-core cell phone chips, chips made out of exotic materials, chips based on nanophotonic/plasmonic technologies, etc, it will take much longer than 3 years for the technology to gain market acceptance. I would venture to say 10 years would be a more realistic timeframe, should they hold a monopoly in this market.

We need better VR algorithms and much higher processing power for more intelligent computing before this thing will ever take off...
"Minneapolis, MN — May 14, 2007 — VoiceIt™ Technologies, LLC announced today the launch of VoicePlayIt™ 1.0. VoicePlayIt™ is the FIRST and ONLY voice command and control software for Pocket Tunes. You can now control Pocket Tunes hands free with simple voice commands. Within seconds after training voice commands, like “Next Track”, you will be able to control your favorite music with just your voice. VoicePlayIt™ really comes in handy while you are in the car, walking, running, or working out at the club.
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VoiceIt™ Technologies’ mission is to utilize our patent pending technology to provide voice biometric and voice navigation solutions to enterprise and consumer markets. Through innovation, strategic alliances, and a passion for technology, VoiceIt™ is committed to bringing secure voice enabled capabilities to the computing environment, regardless of platform. Our branding strategy "Powered by VoiceIt™" enables any developer or publisher to voice enable their software solution for any platform. Our development efforts are driven to bring benefits to the end users beyond voice control, with additional features such as security, safety, and manageability."
http://www.groverind.com/

This company, and there are others, has been in business since 1998.
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"Minneapolis, MN — May 14, 2007 — VoiceIt™ Technologies, LLC announced today the launch of VoicePlayIt™ 1.0. VoicePlayIt™ is the FIRST and ONLY voice command and control software for Pocket Tunes. You can now control Pocket Tunes hands free with simple voice commands. Within seconds after training voice commands, like “Next Track”, you will be able to control your favorite music with just your voice. VoicePlayIt™ really comes in handy while you are in the car, walking, running, or working out at the club.
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VoiceIt™ Technologies’ mission is to utilize our patent pending technology to provide voice biometric and voice navigation solutions to enterprise and consumer markets. Through innovation, strategic alliances, and a passion for technology, VoiceIt™ is committed to bringing secure voice enabled capabilities to the computing environment, regardless of platform. Our branding strategy "Powered by VoiceIt™" enables any developer or publisher to voice enable their software solution for any platform. Our development efforts are driven to bring benefits to the end users beyond voice control, with additional features such as security, safety, and manageability."
http://www.groverind.com/

This company, and there are others, has been in business since 1998.
But how effective would it be when there are voices in the background? People near you talking on cell phones? Cars driving by rendering your words difficult to comprehend?

I have no knowledge of this company, but are they capable of providing VR which works under all circumstances, or do you need a relatively quiet room?

I thought VR technology was still in the "quiet" stage of development. Perhaps I'm wrong here...

edit: Seems their software is for cell phones. Has anyone here tried them out? If it was all that great, why wouldn't major carriers work out deals to bundle the software with their phones?

edit #2: Upon inspecting their site, it seems this is a rather primitive form of voice recognition in which you need to train your cell phone, as well as this only working for entering phone numbers, by allowing you to say the names. This is a nice feature, although what I was referring to by VR was more the ability to say any word and have it typed in. As in, I want to send a text message and I speak it, rather than typing it. It doesn't seem like that software is up to that task.
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Originally Posted by Reece
I thought VR technology was still in the "quiet" stage of development. Perhaps I'm wrong here...
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edit: Seems their software is for cell phones. Has anyone here tried them out? If it was all that great, why wouldn't major carriers work out deals to bundle the software with their phones?

edit #2: Upon inspecting their site, it seems this is a rather primitive form of voice recognition in which you need to train your cell phone, as well as this only working for entering phone numbers, by allowing you to say the names. This is a nice feature, although what I was referring to by VR was more the ability to say any word and have it typed in. As in, I want to send a text message and I speak it, rather than typing it. It doesn't seem like that software is up to that task.
I working on some related stuff, for my T2V.mobi, which I may or may not be able to deploy... so I won't go too deep into how close this is. Besides its better to see this stuff in action.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dO1p8pWNO0 ( http://gps.ask.com/ )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dwj7BINRLJE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q82TY5bKlok

This stuff saves time... and your living in a mostly pay-per-minute mobile world. Anyone who has called a phone company customer service knows how good (97% accuracy at that level) VR is.

Edit: Ooops I wanted to post this one, from e-speaking.com (instead of two from the same co.)
Voice and Speech Recognition Software from e-Speaking.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYu6_cNRCD4
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Just a small question because I don't understand all of this about the importance of voice recognition.

Who has a voice command on his mobile phone and use it? I have had it for years (to call people) and I have never used it.
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Originally Posted by MobiMaven
The Motley Fool guys picked Nuance a while back in their Hidden Gems service. Stock price has gone up about 2.5x since the middle of last summer. I can't say I've studied their business in depth, but there are a lot of people following that part of the market who think Nuance has some real potential.
Yea, I like to keep an eye on those Fools too.
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And as technology advances it can only get better.
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Just a small question because I don't understand all of this about the importance of voice recognition.

Who has a voice command on his mobile phone and use it? I have had it for years (to call people) and I have never used it.
I use it if I am driving and it's not someone on my speed dial. I don't have a bluetooth phone, but it's a speakerphone, and it has voice navigation. Unfortunately, this is how it normally goes:
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=328755

Me:"Contact...Bob...Mobile..."
Phone Display: "Did you say, 1. Mom 2. Bob 3. Hotel?"
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Originally Posted by RegFee
I use it if I am driving and it's not someone on my speed dial. I don't have a bluetooth phone, but it's a speakerphone, and it has voice navigation. Unfortunately, this is how it normally goes:
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=328755

Me:"Contact...Bob...Mobile..."
Phone Display: "Did you say, 1. Mom 2. Bob 3. Hotel?"
Yeah it has a long, long ways to go still and I really don't see anyone getting 1 billion users anytime soon... Couple that with the fact that different phones have different specifications, and you'll have a great deal of trouble making a software package for VR that can work on more than a few models from the same OEM.
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