garrett200

New to the forum. Nice discussions here about .Mobis.

My opinion is this:

IF .mobi is backed by major players (and it is!), then it will take off whether the naysayers like it or not, or even whether the general public likes it or not. If they build it, you will go. It's that simple.

I remember thinking this in 1995: "Why would ANYONE bother to register a name like loan.com or mortgage.com? Completely worthless!"

Ahh, yeah looks like I was wrong, along with everyone else who thought that.

I believe that right now the major players are not showing their cards in regards to .mobi (for obvious reasons). However, when the genie finally comes out of the bottle and they start ingraining .mobi into the heads of 6 billion people and making all mobile devices default to it, it will take off. By then it will be too late for the naysayers to reg anything good.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/dot-mobi/317163-my-humble-opinion.html

Get them while you can.

nrmillions

its already too late to reg something good.

garrett200

I disagree, you just have to dig and use your imagination to find them. And, when that doesn't work, start breaking down into local. There's lots of local stuff still available, and high value keywords too!

Just to illustrate that I am right about this, I still find money making .coms available to hand reg once in a while.

-REECE-

If you consider high keyword as OVT > 10,000, there's almost nothing left.

Almost all the superb names were regged before December, easily 99% of all OVT > 10,000 are regged as of April.

There is local stuff, yes -- but these aren't the kind of names that will make you rich without development, even if dotmobi becomes the new dotcom.

garrett200

Problem is, overture is often wrong, in fact very often.

If you are using only overture to determine values, you're not doing enough homework.

To me, the value lies in the keyword just as much as the hits.

If you've got duilawyer.mobi and annanicole.mobi, sure Annanicole will get tons more hits, but will it make more money? I don't think so.

-REECE-

OVT is king. Compare properly by category. Which is a better name: DUI (driving under the influence) laywers, or just lawyers? I presume people will just look under lawyer/s as any lawyer can represent you for such.


If you have no OVT, you'll get no type-ins. If you don't get any type-ins, your name isn't worth diddly squat unless you plan on developing it. If you develop it, yeah sure dwilawyers.mobi could be big -- but so could fbrqe.mobi or any other random .mobi.

Jeff

Welcome!
With just three posts here, you seem pretty well versed in the .MOBI, IMHO ... are you associated with mTLD, by any chance?

What are the obvious reasons that the "major players" - and to what extent are their investments ($$$) in the extension, and for how long - are not showing their cards?
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=317163
When, magically, does the genie come out of the bottle ... and, finally, why do you bring up the term "naysayers" (no less than two times in your above post) when I personally haven't seen that word / negative exchange used here in the .MOBI Forum™ for quite some time?
Who are you, friend?

Thanks for helping me to understand ...
-Jeff

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garrett200

I am posting my opinions, nothing more. There is no conspiracy, lol.

Why is it that anytime someone new shows up on a forum that has some time on their hands, everyone thinks they are a secret agent? LOL

They're not showing their cards because they're not ready to spring it on the public yet. If they were ready, everyone including your wife, husband, child and dog would have heard about .mobi already.

Naysayers is a general term for anyone who thinks .mobi will go belly up. It's a general term. I did not invent it.

-REECE-

Your posts are always ever so interesting Jeff

I think what needs to be understood here is that generics are pretty much always more valuable than "wannabee generics" -- the same reason creditcards.mobi is worth more than 0aprcreditcards.mobi, gambling.mobi is worth more than vegasgambling.mobi, etc -- don't get me wrong, 0aprcreditcards.mobi and vegasgambling.mobi can still be great names if developed -- they just don't get the type-ins. They're both brandable, as is your dwilawyers.mobi, with proper developement...
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=317163

But no, I wouldn't tell anyone at this point to go around regging names, not develop them, and expect to be rich a few years down the road.

garrett200

Reece,

I get your point, but my point is that overture can be and is wrong about numbers. I tend to trust Google's numbers more. So, which one do you think would make more money annanicole.mobi or duilawyer.mobi? (assuming both are parked pages)

hawkeye

I don't know.., I like the local thing myself as I see this area being big for mobile usage, and though I have a couple, I've searched and searched, and I'm not finding any good ones left. In fact I'm somewhat surprised at how many variations were already regged, and most of them were in the first few days of landrush!
Again, I think that with GPS etc, this will be a new and big area of mobile internet usage. JMO.

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randomo

Hmmm ... I think some "random" .mobi's are a lot easier to remember and market than others! (And if you look at my username, you'll know that I'm an expert on randomness. )
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=317163

I'm still picking up some .mobi's that I consider "good" even though they're not 10K+ OVT. For example, today I reg'd PopHits.mobi. PopHits was already reg'd in quite a few other TLDs, despite its relatively low OVT. Think some people with mobile devices might like to listen to music? Won't this domain (once developed) appeal to them a lot more than fbrqe.mobi?

Cheers,
Dave

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-REECE-

Anna Nicole hands down. OVT isn't wrong -- Google is if you don't enter your words properly.

Look at: user based in Google for example -- 753 million results. Jesus! That's half of the results you'd get for: business! I guess my userbased.com should be worth a couple million?

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=317163
Put it in quotes: "user based", and you discover you actually only get roughly 1 million results -- and your dwi lawyers receive roughly 650,000.

Properly developed, AnnaNicole.com could be a blockbuster... The dotmobi is sketchy as we don't know how long she'll remain in the spotlight now that she's dead, however I'd still pick that over yours. DUI Lawyers is the far better word here, with a very, very healthy OVT.

garrett200

Try to think of these like .coms. Which would you rather own, creditcards.mobi or freepics.mobi? I'd like the first one myself. My point is that there is alot more to the value than ovt ranking. And, which one would sell more at auction? No brainer.

-REECE-

Plenty of good names left for those, like you who plan on developing them. But what use is PopHits for example if you're too lazy to dev it?

garrett200

Ok, Reece. My last adsense click for a DUI .com I own was $1.88. Anna nicole garnered a cool $.02

-REECE-

Garrett, obviously some common sense is involved, as I said in my earlier post. Compare categories -- gambling.mobi is better than onlinegambling.mobi. The OVT of creditcards.mobi vs. gambling.mobi for example is meaningless... They don't have the same target markets (i.e. just because you want a credit card, you don't necessarily want it to gamble, and vice versa). What I'm saying is that categorically speaking, i.e. gambling sector, music sector, financial sector,... all very good names are taken and that you'll definitely have to develop what you buy at this point if you want to reap the benefits down the road.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=317163

DWI Laywer OVT approximately 1,000
Anna Nicole OVT approximately 500,000

Do the MATH...

circa1850

Oh hell, I wanted a conspiracy theory.

I do take credit for coining the term MobiPhiles and MobiPhobics. Just pissed off that someone regged MobiPhiles.com out from under me. I did get the .net and .mobi.

Welcome even if you are not a secret agent and don't have any good conspiracy theories to shed light on. Did Oswald act alone?

hawkeye

Remember though, Anna Nicole is at a peak right now, however in a year, two, three,... ?!? But, DUI lawyers will still be in demand then.

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nrmillions

local stuff is going to be huge in the mobile internet. it might end up being the biggest thing in the mobile internet. i would rather own a local name than something thats not extremely generic for .mobi. all the good local stuff is already regged though.

-REECE-

Yes, I did add that part in about future uncertainty, but at present, Anna Nicole is a better keyword.

It may be huge -- but winnipeggambling.mobi will never bring in what gambling.mobi will -- we all know that...

garrett200

No, Oswald did not act alone.

And Reece, I was just trying to make a point, I didn't look at the numbers for both of those. Point is that I'd much rather own a domain that pays me 1.88 a click than one that pays me .02 (except, of course if the traffic numbers are 500 to 1!) So you need to examine both variables of course.

circa1850

A week or two, before she is dethroned out of the headlines...first Paris, then Britany, then Anna...

oh HELL, Just went over 1000 posts on this thread...talking about three blonde bimbos... go figure.

nrmillions

well just as an example say gambling.com was worth 5 million and vegasgambling.com could be worth $500k. Not as much but still a lot. and a local name would be way better than a non generic name thats needs branding such as ephonecalls.mobi and mlottery.mobi and my___.mobi and random dictionary words that have low OVT and have nothing to do with anything someone would want to look up on mobile.

garrett200

Winnipeggambling?

Just so you know, that .mobi is available for reg, if anyone wants it, which I wouldn't heheh