meanieme

i'm fairly new to .mobi. I picked up some names and would like to develop them. I'm starting to learn how to develop. But was wondering in terms of hosting a .mobi site, are there certain types of hosting you need for .mobi or can i simply use my existing .com hosting provider.

jagusa

I'm not an expert at this, but I use my normal provider. The only thing special that I did was modify the .htaccess so I could modify mime types. The dev.mobi site has training on this. Note: my .mobi site has not officially launched.

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meanieme

thanks i was just wondering since i've been reading on here ppl are trying to offset costs for hosting/developing their .mobi sites so i thought maybe there were some unique expenses associated with .mobi over typical .com

scandiman

No, nothing different from a hosting perspective. A few weeks back there was a thread here about hosting. I currently use 1and1. Though some here all but hate them, I've been OK so far.

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meanieme

thanks for all the insight...so to get started learning how to develop, dev.mobi is the best site?

scandiman

Yes, it is a good idea to read the various resources available from mTLD. explore their website. You can find working templates to help guide you as well.

Also look at the thread- Sticky: How to Develop a Mobi Site at the top of our mobi forum here.

nombre

i think i might have started that thread

what i still haven't answered to my satisfaction, is whether mobis will be significantly cheaper to host which might lead to very different uses than typical dot com sites

presumably the storage and bandwith for a standard clickthrough mobi site would be a fraction of the usual since it will contain about 1/10 the data

am i right here?

scandiman

I may be wrong but I don't foresee hosting companies providing different plans for different tld's. Ultimately it just comes down to disk space and bandwidth for them and it is reasonable to assume that a page of .mobi would require less of both if designed properly. Maybe you can do more with a lesser plan with .mobi but I have no track record to quantify it.

nombre

scandiman

i have a theory and i wonder what you think

i think that mobi may become popular with a certain group of people who

a) don't want to spend much money on their site
b) don't have a whole lot to say that's new and different and mainly want it be a mobile business card (perfect for mobi)
c) want a site that they can manage and update themselves

mobi is perfect for this, especially if godaddy and others come up with quick and dirty templates that can be put up and maintained very easily (even simple web templates require way more than a lot of people want to do)

i can easily see this group _just_ having a mobi even if it what they do is not especially mobile ... it's basically just a mobile/web business card which is perfect for a lot of users (mobicard.mobi and businesscard.mobi are both gone........oh well)

CharlieA

Hosts don't care what your site consumes as long as you're within the parameters set forth by the plan you're using. You could use just 1GB of transfer on a 100GB transfer plan, they don't care.

I have a very popular site that serves up static text files. Some of these files are less than 1KB in size. I eat through 300GB of bandwidth easily in 1 month.

What I'm trying to get at is, small file sizes don't really matter.

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scandiman

There are already very affordable hosting plans available for people with lightweight needs. That's not to say some host won't try to market specifically to .mobi users, but the truth is that there is nothing technically unique about hosting for .mobi. To them it is just another internet site.

CharlieA

You explained it perfectly scandiman.

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nombre

charlie and scandiman

i sort of mixed 2 different issues

charlie, i get what you are saying about bandwith, let me ask you this, if you are oing through 300gigs a month with files that small you are getting millions of hits a month, correct ? what i am driving at is that if it becomes much easier to maintain a farm of mobi sites by virtue of coding, maintenance and bandwidth, then we may see a lot more active small sites that serve very small populations vs. the "large-size" web where mainting a traditional site is a lot of work

my second point above was really not aimed at the issue of hosting and bandwith but more about the issue of people switching to mobi for their _primary_ site simply because a mobi site will be so much easier to maintain, again, i am calling it the "businesscard web site"

scandiman

Sites are only as difficult or easy to maintain as you build them to be. For me in fact, .mobi sites are going to be a bit more difficult to build than my .coms in that I want to support the typical mini style mobile site as well as a full fledged "PC" site under the same URL. Eventually I'll port this same strategy to my .com sites so the difficulty will be the same.

There are likely millions of .com "business card sites" out there already. I'll characterize them by the fact that their content is static and is rarely updated. I don't see .mobi as uniquely positioned to capture that market, but no doubt many sites will have the same level of build.

SimpleDomaining

i dont get it. if nothing is different in a way how to host .mobi aor anything else, why people just dont modify htaccess for .com so it can be readed and online and from phones, and dont spend that much money for .mobi landrush?

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CharlieA

The .com - .mobi difference: With .com an end user doesn't know if it will display or if that .com site has a mobile version. With .mobi, the end user will always know that visiting a .mobi site will display on their phone/mobile device.

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nombre

interesting, i hadn't thought about that

i guess i am thinking exactly of all those static sites where people think they have to have a web site yet don't really have a lot to say on it that's new or different ...of course i just realized that these same people are probably not going to go out and buy a whole new 2nd site on the idea that it will be easier to maintain

i pronounce my earlier post a bad idea ...

SimpleDomaining

if user does not know... you always could write it on com that WHIS SITE IS PHONE CAPATIBLE. imho.

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scandiman

As previously touched on, hosting providers don't care what you host, they just care about bandwidth and storage space. My host doesn't care if I design a site to be 20 pixels wide or 1600 pixels wide. The entire point of why use .mobi is branding and compliance with a set of coding standards that are mobile friendly. It has nothing to do with any change in how to host a site.