I dont get it ?

britishbulldog · 01-21-2007, 04:23 PM

Ask a thousand people on the street "have you heard of .mobi" they say "what ?" looking puzzelled man this extension is either gonna be the biggest con of all time or flyer ?

I have yet to see one .mobi advertised anywhere,so i buy a top selling mobile magazine still no sign of .mobi,yet i see .tv everywhere on tv !

My conclusion is this becoming like another speculative extension like .euwith big money exchanging but not many sites being developed compared with other tlds ?

The jury is still out as where this is going bar speculative punting !

NewYorkBum · 01-21-2007, 04:32 PM

Considering that mobile companies are coming out with all kind of video, internet, radio, mp3, 3gp all many other kinds of media supporting phones .mobi will take off when time comes.
The question is when will come that time?

mejcdj · 01-21-2007, 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by britishbulldog

Ask a thousand people on the street "have you heard of .mobi" they say "what ?" looking puzzelled man this extension is either gonna be the biggest con of all time or flyer ?

I have yet to see one .mobi advertised anywhere,so i buy a top selling mobile magazine still no sign of .mobi,yet i see .tv everywhere on tv !

My conclusion is this becoming like another speculative extension like .euwith big money exchanging but not many sites being developed compared with other tlds ?

The jury is still out as where this is going bar speculative punting !

You actually asked a thousand people??
Where did you find the time?

Its only been a few months for .mobi.
.TV has been out for years.

Give .mobi time. We each have 2 years on our regs. Lets see what happens before we call it a 'con'.

thinking1 · 01-21-2007, 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by britishbulldog

Ask a thousand people on the street "have you heard of .mobi" they say "what ?" looking puzzelled man this extension is either gonna be the biggest con of all time or flyer ?

I have yet to see one .mobi advertised anywhere,so i buy a top selling mobile magazine still no sign of .mobi,yet i see .tv everywhere on tv !

My conclusion is this becoming like another speculative extension like .euwith big money exchanging but not many sites being developed compared with other tlds ?

The jury is still out as where this is going bar speculative punting !

I love it when people come along and say something like this.

Why and How in the effing world could Mobi be known to non domainers?

It's been only a few months!! .com took years to get off the ground! Also, there is relatively no content on .mobi now. You actually want the normal public to know about the extension now so they can get turned off from no websites and ruin their whole mobile .mobi experience.

Give it some time! It slowly building up, but not overnight.

mykel241 · 01-21-2007, 04:43 PM

I do think that if more people would focus on developing their .mobi's it would help out the extension. I really wish mtld would enforce development on this extension. If people keep on parking as opposed to development then the extension will just fizzle off.

I currently own only a handful of .mobi's but are developing them all. A couple you will hear about this week, others may take a bit longer but there are so many great business models for this extension. I personally have (2) provisional patents filed already with more to come.

The masses need to be educated the .mobi is the .com of for mobile devices and if most of us park instead of developing then the public will never know and always default to .com even on their mobile devices.

Michael

scandiman · 01-21-2007, 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thinking1

I love it when people come along and say something like this.

Why and How in the effing world could Mobi be known to non domainers?

It's been only a few months!! .com took years to get off the ground! Also, there is relatively no content on .mobi now. You actually want the normal public to know about the extension now so they can get turned off from no websites and ruin their whole mobile .mobi experience.

Give it some time! It slowly building up, but not overnight.

Well said!

seanboy · 01-21-2007, 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by britishbulldog

I have yet to see one .mobi advertised anywhere

http://money.cnn.com/services/mobile/

http://universalchannel.mobi/ (NBC)

http://domainnamewire.com/2007/01/03...obi-web-sites/

Just a few examples

It's still early, but I am seeing some good signs. The jury is still out however..

I do agree with you about .tv. I'm a big fan of .tv and I see a good year ahead for it..

-db- · 01-21-2007, 10:17 PM

There is no doubt, some folks have developed a case of "mobi-madness", and they proclaim it the greatest thing since sliced bread. There is enough hype and hot air going around to fill and sail 1,000 balloons...

But, in the same way that it's too early for them to proclaim success, it's also much-much too early for anybody else to proclaim failure. It takes time for an new extension to become recognized, and get some legs under it.

The bottom line - Throw out the claims from the overly-hyped mobi fans, and throw out the claims from the overly-negative mobi haters. The real deal is what's left over in the middle... a new extension with a strong start, great potential, and a long way to go before any of us truly know it's fate.

seanboy · 01-21-2007, 10:25 PM

I agree completely. In addition, we need to concentrate on the strong development of our names. This is very important and will have a direct effect the success of .mobi. People will want good, interactive content on their phones, and not a bunch of mini-parked pages.

Quote:

Originally Posted by -db-

There is no doubt, some folks have developed a case of "mobi-madness", and they proclaim it the greatest thing since sliced bread. There is enough hype and hot air going around to fill and sail 1,000 balloons...

But, in the same way that it's too early for them to proclaim success, it's also much-much too early for anybody else to proclaim failure. It takes time for an new extension to become recognized, and get some legs under it.

The bottom line - Throw out the claims from the overly-hyped mobi fans, and throw out the claims from the overly-negative mobi haters. The real deal is what's left over in the middle... a new extension with a strong start, great potential, and a long way to go before any of us truly know it's fate.

mykel241 · 01-21-2007, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seanboy

I agree completely. In addition, we need to concentrate on the strong development of our names. This is very important and will have a direct effect the success of .mobi. People will want good, interactive content on their phones, and not a bunch of mini-parked pages.

That is exactly why I feel that mTLD should enforce development of .mobi names. The more .mobi's that get developed will only enforce the extensions presence. If there are only parked names then it will only hurt the extension and people will just keep defaulting to .com.

I also feel that development and sites should make sense for access on mobile devices. I have a few business models I am flushing out now and should have 3 concepts in BETA this week. I am hoping that an active aftermarket for .mobi sites will develop.

Michael

britishbulldog · 01-22-2007, 04:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thinking1

I love it when people come along and say something like this.

Why and How in the effing world could Mobi be known to non domainers?

Why Not its been hyped so much ?

It's been only a few months!! .com took years to get off the ground! Also, there is relatively no content on .mobi now. You actually want the normal public to know about the extension now so they can get turned off from no websites and ruin their whole mobile .mobi experience.

Thats when the internet was at its infancy its a bit different now !

Give it some time! It slowly building up, but not overnight.

Thanks for finally answering my question !

dochlaggie · 01-22-2007, 05:16 AM

I feel that the success or otherwise of mobi will depend on all of us mobi owners.
we must get out there and develop mobi sites.

Tippy · 01-22-2007, 05:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mykel241

The masses need to be educated the .mobi is the .com of for mobile devices and if most of us park instead of developing then the public will never know and always default to .com even on their mobile devices.

I dont really think domainer development is gonna help much, just like we own developed .coms and get no hits/traffic.

I agree the general public needs to be educated to use the .mobi instead of .com when using their cell phones to access the internet but habits are hard to break.

I've asked a number of people as well if they've heard about .mobi and all said " whats that "

The big companies who own .mobis need to develop them and promote them via radio/tv/print etc... they have the bucks and resources to make it happen. Simply developing a site wont cut it.

As far as domain sales go it seems like its mostly domainer to domainer sales.

ginggang · 01-22-2007, 06:16 AM

Education to the masses is not the solution, it's not feasible. There are 2.14 billion phones in circulation and in the next three years 90% of the population will own mobile phones (According to Wikipedia). I am using the phone as the example rather than another mobile device due to the saturation.

It's in the interest of the mobile phone manufactures to provide a quick internet experience. Give it 3-5 years and mobile phones will be launched with preconfigured browsers with .mobi default settings.The extension will become irrelevant to the user, all that will be required will be "Branding/Name".

Personally I see the way the internet is browsed as diverging into two separate styles and email being common factor between the two.

seanboy · 01-22-2007, 06:18 AM

Well, all of my friends know what .mobi is now, because I won't shut up about it

I have a few of them browsing .mobi sites, some of them are one's owned by users here.

rosh86 · 01-22-2007, 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seanboy

Well, all of my friends know what .mobi is now, because I won't shut up about it

I have a few of them browsing .mobi sites, some of them are one's owned by users here.

Exactly, lol ... we just cant shut up about it ... poor girlfriend I have ...

Anyway, at least we have got something that drives us and feel excited about something ... better then having nothing at all if you ask me as its kinda like a hobby to me.

Rosh

mjnels · 01-22-2007, 06:48 AM

i just renewed my best .mobis for another 2 years.. shows you how im thinking.
definetely not for the present..WHATEVER happens between now and the next few years WILL NOT matter to me.

Im curious about the year 2011 or sometime around there... even if between now and then .mobi values drop lower than .coop's value.

I expect the dot-mobi registry to fill in most of the "what if" gaps....

just think if you could go 5 years into the future, and read about allllll the things that happend to .mobi, good or bad... there would be a lot of threads to read.

rosh86 · 01-22-2007, 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mjnels

i just renewed my best .mobis for another 2 years.. shows you how im thinking.
definetely not for the present..WHATEVER happens between now and the next few years WILL NOT matter to me.

Im curious about the year 2011 or sometime around there... even if between now and then .mobi values drop lower than .coop's value.

I expect the dot-mobi registry to fill in most of the "what if" gaps....

just think if you could go 5 years into the future, and read about allllll the things that happend to .mobi, good or bad... there would be a lot of threads to read.

Good point! I was thinking about saving up for next 2years reg fees.
2011, exactly what i have in mind ... maybe 2010...

Tippy · 01-22-2007, 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ginggang

Education to the masses is not the solution, it's not feasible. There are 2.14 billion phones in circulation and in the next three years 90% of the population will own mobile phones (According to Wikipedia). I am using the phone as the example rather than another mobile device due to the saturation.

It's in the interest of the mobile phone manufactures to provide a quick internet experience. Give it 3-5 years and mobile phones will be launched with preconfigured browsers with .mobi default settings.The extension will become irrelevant to the user, all that will be required will be "Branding/Name".

Personally I see the way the internet is browsed as diverging into two separate styles and email being common factor between the two.

I dont agree, people know .com because its in the media, its all you see, I dont know how you can say the media cant help .mobi, it sure helped Paris Hilton...

I doubt very much that cell phones will be configured to only access .mobi domains, wishful thinking for .mobi holders but I dont see it happening...

PS : I do own a few .mobi's

ginggang · 01-22-2007, 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tippy

I dont agree, people know .com because its in the media, its all you see, I dont know how you can say the media cant help .mobi, it sure helped Paris Hilton...

I didn't say it couldn't help I said it's not feasible to educate 2.14 billion users.How do you do that exactly ?

I bet there are hundreds of millions of people who don't know who Paris Hilton is.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tippy

I doubt very much that cell phones will be configured to only access .mobi domains, wishful thinking for .mobi holders but I dont see it happening...

PS : I do own a few .mobi's

It's in their interest to do it.Biggest stumbling block to internet access on the phone is data transfer speeds, second being cost. Make it faster by defaulting the browser to .mobi and have the problem is solved. From a UK perspective the mobile operators are addressing the costs involved in data transfer to make it cheaper.

I wouldn't be surprised if some phone company starts making disposable mobile phones with a preconfigured browser and limited phone facilities.I'm talking long term here....were be using tri-corders by 2050

mykel241 · 01-22-2007, 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tippy

I doubt very much that cell phones will be configured to only access .mobi domains, wishful thinking for .mobi holders but I dont see it happening...

PS : I do own a few .mobi's

Exactly, that’s why we need to develop business models and sites specific to the extension to brand in the publics mind that on their mobile device .mobi is the default. And hopefully over the next year BIG BUSINESS will want to acquire some of these business models and concepts only further solidifying .mobi as the default.

Parking .mobi domains does none of us any good. With mobile devices as the internet standards will play a very important role and I hope the standard for mobile devices is web based and not java based applications but at this point it seems to be that java is the clear winner. Over the next 6 months to me will be a critical time for the extension. The more people who park the less popular the extension will be. On a mobile device it is a lot easier to type domain.com then domain.mobi.

Educating people about mobi does no good if there is nothing there for them to do but some list and non-interactive sites with ads. We need to give them a reason to discover .mobi and this is done by creating useful and purposeful applications and sites that are geared to mobile users.

Michael

Tippy · 01-22-2007, 08:50 AM

So all those poor suckers who didnt get a chance to reg the .mobi of their .com are out of luck... their .com is already stuck in their customers head, thus as mentioned in another thread just us a script to detect the type of device connecting to your site and redirect it to the proper spot be it mobile.mydomain.com or whatever.

I dont see the phone people blocking .coms .whatever in the future, thats like if PC's where being shipped out with .com only access, doesnt make sense.

Jeff · 01-22-2007, 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tippy

I dont see the phone people blocking .coms .whatever in the future, thats like if PC's where being shipped out with .com only access, doesnt make sense.

Hammer. Head. Nail.

The "Mobile Web" is about freedom

... at best, in our lifetimes, the .MOBI (even with tons and tons of developed sites) will be the .ORG's little, baby sister!

Just my two sense.
-Jeff

mjnels · 01-22-2007, 09:15 AM

wait a minute here... block .coms?

i dont know why anyone would even give consideration to this thought.

that is just silly... who was the person that suggested this could happen?

yoyosean · 01-22-2007, 09:17 AM

you are wrong Jeff IMHO

01-21-2007, 04:23 PM	#1 (permalink)
britishbulldog NamePros Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 39 0.00 NP$ (Donate)	I dont get it ? Ask a thousand people on the street "have you heard of .mobi" they say "what ?" looking puzzelled man this extension is either gonna be the biggest con of all time or flyer ? I have yet to see one .mobi advertised anywhere,so i buy a top selling mobile magazine still no sign of .mobi,yet i see .tv everywhere on tv ! My conclusion is this becoming like another speculative extension like .euwith big money exchanging but not many sites being developed compared with other tlds ? The jury is still out as where this is going bar speculative punting !

01-21-2007, 04:43 PM	#5 (permalink)
mykel241 NamePros Regular Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Lincoln, RI Posts: 465 610.50 NP$ (Donate)	I do think that if more people would focus on developing their .mobi's it would help out the extension. I really wish mtld would enforce development on this extension. If people keep on parking as opposed to development then the extension will just fizzle off. I currently own only a handful of .mobi's but are developing them all. A couple you will hear about this week, others may take a bit longer but there are so many great business models for this extension. I personally have (2) provisional patents filed already with more to come. The masses need to be educated the .mobi is the .com of for mobile devices and if most of us park instead of developing then the public will never know and always default to .com even on their mobile devices. Michael __________________ Need A Script? - Visit MikesPhpScripts.com BlueCollarPoker.com - $25.00 Freeroll today

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-db- NamePros Inc. Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: .US of America Posts: 5,570 107.00 NP$ (Donate)	There is no doubt, some folks have developed a case of "mobi-madness", and they proclaim it the greatest thing since sliced bread. There is enough hype and hot air going around to fill and sail 1,000 balloons... But, in the same way that it's too early for them to proclaim success, it's also much-much too early for anybody else to proclaim failure. It takes time for an new extension to become recognized, and get some legs under it. The bottom line - Throw out the claims from the overly-hyped mobi fans, and throw out the claims from the overly-negative mobi haters. The real deal is what's left over in the middle... a new extension with a strong start, great potential, and a long way to go before any of us truly know it's fate. __________________ I support Children: Wish.org \| MissingKids.com I support Animals: SPCA.org \| SPCA.com Jeff \| Armstrong \| Grrilla - First 3 inductees into NamePro's Hall-Of-Fame.

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Tippy NamePros Expert Join Date: May 2003 Location: XXX Posts: 6,446 357.00 NP$ (Donate)	So all those poor suckers who didnt get a chance to reg the .mobi of their .com are out of luck... their .com is already stuck in their customers head, thus as mentioned in another thread just us a script to detect the type of device connecting to your site and redirect it to the proper spot be it mobile.mydomain.com or whatever. I dont see the phone people blocking .coms .whatever in the future, thats like if PC's where being shipped out with .com only access, doesnt make sense. __________________ My Domains : JustRegged SportyBetting GroupOwned VidEditing WeDoFinancing CheapoMovies FellowDomainers HeavenlyDishes MoneyBacking iMovs ILoveGiving OldiesTube MrAndMr House.ws Maps.st etc...

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NewYorkBum NamePros Regular Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 241 30.50 NP$ (Donate)	Considering that mobile companies are coming out with all kind of video, internet, radio, mp3, 3gp all many other kinds of media supporting phones .mobi will take off when time comes. The question is when will come that time?

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ginggang NamePros Regular Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 240 0.00 NP$ (Donate)	Education to the masses is not the solution, it's not feasible. There are 2.14 billion phones in circulation and in the next three years 90% of the population will own mobile phones (According to Wikipedia). I am using the phone as the example rather than another mobile device due to the saturation. It's in the interest of the mobile phone manufactures to provide a quick internet experience. Give it 3-5 years and mobile phones will be launched with preconfigured browsers with .mobi default settings.The extension will become irrelevant to the user, all that will be required will be "Branding/Name". Personally I see the way the internet is browsed as diverging into two separate styles and email being common factor between the two.

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seanboy Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,188 0.00 NP$ (Donate)	Well, all of my friends know what .mobi is now, because I won't shut up about it I have a few of them browsing .mobi sites, some of them are one's owned by users here.

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mjnels Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Sunny Florida Posts: 2,096 357.00 NP$ (Donate)	i just renewed my best .mobis for another 2 years.. shows you how im thinking. definetely not for the present..WHATEVER happens between now and the next few years WILL NOT matter to me. Im curious about the year 2011 or sometime around there... even if between now and then .mobi values drop lower than .coop's value. I expect the dot-mobi registry to fill in most of the "what if" gaps.... just think if you could go 5 years into the future, and read about allllll the things that happend to .mobi, good or bad... there would be a lot of threads to read.

01-22-2007, 09:15 AM	#24 (permalink)
mjnels Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Sunny Florida Posts: 2,096 357.00 NP$ (Donate)	wait a minute here... block .coms? i dont know why anyone would even give consideration to this thought. that is just silly... who was the person that suggested this could happen?

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