How long until the mobile is the heart of entertainment?

seanboy · 12-13-2006, 09:56 AM

Good article here:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/12...ment_forecast/

-db- · 12-13-2006, 11:07 AM

Nice read. Some clever ideas that go way beyond current typical cell phone (handset) usage.

I notice they didn't mention anything about .Mobi, which is a bit disappointing.

whitebark · 12-13-2006, 11:16 AM

"How long until the mobile is the heart of entertainment?"

Forever - my idea of entertainment doesn't revolve around staring at a handheld screen. The mobile is more like a hand that helps you get entertainment - it's not entertainment itself. Entertainment is so many different things to so many people.

I work on a computer all day long - the last thing I want to do on off-time is be entertained by being tethered to a mobile device.

seanboy · 12-13-2006, 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whitebark

"How long until the mobile is the heart of entertainment?"

Forever - my idea of entertainment doesn't revolve around staring at a handheld screen. The mobile is more like a hand that helps you get entertainment - it's not entertainment itself. Entertainment is so many different things to so many people.

I work on a computer all day long - the last thing I want to do on off-time is be entertained by being tethered to a mobile device.

You're only one person, and I believe that you'll be in the minority in a few years. I can think of many people who are enteratined by mobile devices. I like to refer to them as the "youth." These are the people growing up with these devices. Not one of them can remember a time when it costs thousands of dollars to buy a mobile phone. You should see how fast my little cousins can text message. It's quite a site.

namewaiter · 12-13-2006, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whitebark

I work on a computer all day long - the last thing I want to do on off-time is be entertained by being tethered to a mobile device.

'being tethered to a mobile device'? oxymoron? isn't this the exact reason things will go mobile versus desktop/laptops?

hawkeye · 12-13-2006, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whitebark

I work on a computer all day long - the last thing I want to do on off-time is be entertained by being tethered to a mobile device.

I think this same statement (somewhat) was used by those who worked phone related jobs some 20 years ago, when they were talking about how everyone would have a cellphone to carry around with them 'in the future'.

seanboy · 12-13-2006, 11:34 AM

u gotta love .mobi haters

whitebark · 12-13-2006, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by seanboy

You're only one person, and I believe that you'll be in the minority in a few years. I can think of many people who are enteratined by mobile devices. I like to refer to them as the "youth." These are the people growing up with these devices. Not one of them can remember a time when it costs thousands of dollars to buy a mobile phone. You should see how fast my little cousins can text message. It's quite a site.

Sorry but you are wrong - the first world nations who are the vast majority of users of mobile devices that access the net all have aging populations. That's simple statistical analysis. While mobile use will increase, it will not take place of traditional forms of entertainment.

Many other cultures will not adapt themselves any time soon as Western nations have to this individual form of entertainment as it is contradictory to their cultural and societal norms.

It's a sad reflection on today's society that some people's idea of entertainment revolves around individual action. This is shallow living if you ask me and they will come to realize as they get older that they have wasted their youth on something that adds up to nothing.

We wonder why the youth of today are not as physically fit as their elders - this is one glaring example. Instead of going for a nature walk - they stare at a screen. Instead of playing flag-football or hockey with friends they sit alone or in a small group huddled over their mobile device.

That's not entertainment - that's a waste of time.

As for the lame crack that I hate .mobi - no I hate the fanatics who think .mobi is the end all and be all of mobile content. Get it through your heads - ANY DOMAIN can be accessed by a mobile device. ANY domain can be made to be mobile friendly - and you all ignore the advances in mobile technology you are so fond of in that their ability to read unoptimized code is advancing month over month. Soon they will be able to display any website as the author intended it be viewed without them having to code it for a mobile device. That's the reality mobi fans. .anything is as good as .mobi now and in the future.

namewaiter · 12-13-2006, 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whitebark

As for the lame crack that I hate .mobi - no I hate the fanatics who think .mobi is the end all and be all of mobile content. Get it through your heads - ANY DOMAIN can be accessed by a mobile device. ANY domain can be made to be mobile friendly - and you all ignore the advances in mobile technology you are so fond of in that their ability to read unoptimized code is advancing month over month. Soon they will be able to display any website as the author intended it be viewed without them having to code it for a mobile device. That's the reality mobi fans. .anything is as good as .mobi now and in the future.

why are you here? in this forum?

seanboy · 12-13-2006, 11:59 AM

Yes, it is true that any domain can be accessed by a mobile device. Yes, it is true that you can take a .com and make it mobile-accessible. But, it wasn't really being done until now. .Mobi introduces standards to make accessing the web easier. .Mobi is pulling together mobile developers (wap, wml, etc.) together to start something new, something that hardly anyone had been paying attention to. I've been developing mobile sites for about two years, and it has been a pain in the ass to develop a site using wap or wml. .Mobi finally brings something to the table. It brings compliance. It brings standards that we as mobile web developers can all agree on. Never until the past few months have so many people paid attention to mobile development. Yes, it could have been done with .com, but it wasn't.

That's all I ever hear from .mobi haters: "It can be done with .com lol!!!!1111."

Well then DO IT.

The only thing lame here is your relentless bashing of us so-called "fanatics."

Anyways...back to discussing the article...

Bodhi · 12-13-2006, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whitebark

Sorry but you are wrong - the first world nations who are the vast majority of users of mobile devices that access the net all have aging populations. That's simple statistical analysis. While mobile use will increase, it will not take place of traditional forms of entertainment.

Many other cultures will not adapt themselves any time soon as Western nations have to this individual form of entertainment as it is contradictory to their cultural and societal norms.

It's a sad reflection on today's society that some people's idea of entertainment revolves around individual action. This is shallow living if you ask me and they will come to realize as they get older that they have wasted their youth on something that adds up to nothing.

We wonder why the youth of today are not as physically fit as their elders - this is one glaring example. Instead of going for a nature walk - they stare at a screen. Instead of playing flag-football or hockey with friends they sit alone or in a small group huddled over their mobile device.

That's not entertainment - that's a waste of time.

As for the lame crack that I hate .mobi - no I hate the fanatics who think .mobi is the end all and be all of mobile content. Get it through your heads - ANY DOMAIN can be accessed by a mobile device. ANY domain can be made to be mobile friendly - and you all ignore the advances in mobile technology you are so fond of in that their ability to read unoptimized code is advancing month over month. Soon they will be able to display any website as the author intended it be viewed without them having to code it for a mobile device. That's the reality mobi fans. .anything is as good as .mobi now and in the future.

Reminds me of how strongly I argued against AOL over 10 years ago. I now wish I had invested money in them. Oh well, live and learn.

gen · 12-13-2006, 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whitebark

I hate the fanatics who think .mobi

hate is not healthy

just say no

whitebark · 12-13-2006, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by namewaiter

why are you here? in this forum?

Two reasons the OP asked a question - which it is now clear he/she expected other fanatics to answer what he/she wanted to hear and second goes back to the first - some fanatics need a dose of reality.

Don't post a question unless you want it be answered by different people with different viewpoints. The .mobi love-in that takes place everyday is almost becoming cult-like. Any differing view - you must be a 'hater' is the response.

Hype and supposition have almost taken place of any rational discourse. Many people who are not buying/selling/developing .mobi domains are as valid in their opinions as those who swear by the domain extension.

seanboy · 12-13-2006, 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whitebark

Two reasons the OP asked a question - which it is now clear he/she expected other fanatics to answer what he/she wanted to hear

You must be a mind reader. Tell me swami, what color boxers am I wearing today?

What I wanted to hear were people's opinions on the article. I read your comments and responded to it. I've read your comments on other threads before, and it couldn't be any more evident of your obvious dislike of this extension. I can't stand IDN's, so you'll never see me trolling around in the IDN forums.

namewaiter · 12-13-2006, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by whitebark

Two reasons the OP asked a question

umm - had you actually taken the time to open and read the article you would have noticed that it's the title of the article ... so who actually asked the question?

RogueWriter · 12-13-2006, 01:09 PM

My kids are constantly asking if they can use my phone while on a trip. Not to call, but, rather to play with one or two games that are on the device. If I had access to the internet via my cell, they would be all over that - and they will grow up using that technology for work and enjoyment, and, well, filler, when there is nothing else to do.

Given the hectic lives many live, people will be shopping online while they are on a bus or car pooling or at lunch, or buying movie tickets on the way there, just to ensure they have a seat at the movie of choice.

Perhaps it will not be the entertainment vehicle of choice, but, then, perhaps cell phones will continue to evolve, too, as they become more efficient at incorporating what their customers want.

DNWizardX9 · 12-13-2006, 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seanboy

You must be a mind reader. Tell me swami, what color boxers am I wearing today?

What I wanted to hear were people's opinions on the article. I read your comments and responded to it. I've read your comments on other threads before, and it couldn't be any more evident of your obvious dislike of this extension. I can't stand IDN's, so you'll never see me trolling around in the IDN forums.

Why can't you stand IDNs.

runsome · 12-13-2006, 01:14 PM

Good article...

I'm banking on it.... Ent.mobi

Lasher · 12-13-2006, 01:17 PM

RNR (commn acronym, look it up) waiting here

Btw, the extension doesn't matter, people will go where quality content is. The promise of .mobi for me is the vision of developed sites on every premium keyword. Think about how powerful that will be if realized. No other extension has it, including .COM. I'm not buying that .MOBI will be the default on mobile devices until I see it, and if it does happen it will be because it's where quality content is, not because it's called "MOBI". I've almost even convinced myself of this enough to remove my domains from my sig and wait it out

Lasher · 12-13-2006, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -db-

Their whole world is connectd to, and accessed from, these next generation mobile devices. With razor thin pop-up LCD screens, retractable fold-up mini keyboards, and a web designed and built just for them!

Muhahahaha....*evil laugh*.... Children of the Web.

If only I was a film maker.

Want to know a secret? Every now and then I like to go trolling for a flame war on Namepros just to see what great way -db- will come up with to diffuse the tension.

On this particularly occasion though, I hadn't read the whole thread and didn't realize what I'd stood in, sorry to interrupt by discussing .MOBI domains, I'm off to register childrenofthe.mobi

-db- · 12-13-2006, 01:24 PM

Ok, this is getting off-topic and rather personal.

How about something to lighten the mood, one of my dreams...

Children of the Web.

In the same vain/style as the Stephen King book "Children of the Corn" or movie...

The opening scene starts with a boy riding his bicycle across the road, when a guy in a speeding pickup truck runs a stop sign and almost hits him. The angry (and intoxicated) driver then has the nerve to start yelling at the kid, and even kicks his bicycle to the ground.

As the man speeds away, the young boy pulls out his mobile device and enters his license plate number, accessing personal information on the man, home address, job, etc... Next, you see the boy message a couple of his friends, and suddenly an entire network of kids begin to destroy and dissect the man's life, canceling all his credit cards, draining his bank account, ruining his reputation. These kids are 'wired' on a level we don't understand. You don't want to piss them off.

Their whole world is connected to, and accessed from, these next generation mobile devices. With razor thin pop-up LCD screens, retractable fold-up mini keyboards, and a web designed and built just for them!

Muhahahaha....*evil laugh*.... Children of the Web.

If only I was a film maker.

Lasher · 12-13-2006, 01:26 PM

I'm so special, I responded to your thread before you posted it.

Now who wants to buy next week's lottery numbers?

hawkeye · 12-13-2006, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -db-

Ok, this is getting off-topic and rather personal.

How about something to lighten the mood, one of my dreams...

Children of the Web.

In the same vain/style as the Stephen King book "Children of the Corn" or movie...

The opening scene starts with a boy riding his bicycle across the road, when a guy in a speeding pickup truck runs a stop sign and almost hits him. The angry (and intoxicated) driver then has the nerve to start yelling at the kid, and even kicks his bicycle to the ground.

As the man speeds away, the young boy pulls out his mobile device and enters his license plate number, accessing personal information on the man, home address, job, etc... Next, you see the boy message a couple of his friends, and suddenly an entire network of kids begin to destroy and dissect the man's life, canceling all his credit cards, draining his bank account, ruining his reputation. These kids are 'wired' on a level we don't understand. You don't want to piss them off.

Their whole world is connected to, and accessed from, these next generation mobile devices. With razor thin pop-up LCD screens, retractable fold-up mini keyboards, and a web designed and built just for them!

Muhahahaha....*evil laugh*.... Children of the Web.

If only I was a film maker.

Hmmmmm

-db- · 12-13-2006, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lasher

I'm so special, I responded to your thread before you posted it.

Derek, stop it, that's just creepy.

admin fault, hit the wrong button.

seanboy · 12-13-2006, 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -db-

Ok, this is getting off-topic and rather personal.

How about something to lighten the mood, one of my dreams...

Children of the Web.

In the same vain/style as the Stephen King book "Children of the Corn" or movie...

The opening scene starts with a boy riding his bicycle across the road, when a guy in a speeding pickup truck runs a stop sign and almost hits him. The angry (and intoxicated) driver then has the nerve to start yelling at the kid, and even kicks his bicycle to the ground.

As the man speeds away, the young boy pulls out his mobile device and enters his license plate number, accessing personal information on the man, home address, job, etc... Next, you see the boy message a couple of his friends, and suddenly an entire network of kids begin to destroy and dissect the man's life, canceling all his credit cards, draining his bank account, ruining his reputation. These kids are 'wired' on a level we don't understand. You don't want to piss them off.

Their whole world is connected to, and accessed from, these next generation mobile devices. With razor thin pop-up LCD screens, retractable fold-up mini keyboards, and a web designed and built just for them!

Muhahahaha....*evil laugh*.... Children of the Web.

If only I was a film maker.

Creepy as hell

12-13-2006, 09:56 AM	#1 (permalink)
seanboy Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,188 0.00 NP$ (Donate)	How long until the mobile is the heart of entertainment? Good article here: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/12...ment_forecast/

12-13-2006, 11:07 AM	#2 (permalink)
-db- NamePros Inc. Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: .US of America Posts: 5,570 107.00 NP$ (Donate)	Nice read. Some clever ideas that go way beyond current typical cell phone (handset) usage. I notice they didn't mention anything about .Mobi, which is a bit disappointing. __________________ I support Children: Wish.org \| MissingKids.com I support Animals: SPCA.org \| SPCA.com Jeff \| Armstrong \| Grrilla - First 3 inductees into NamePro's Hall-Of-Fame.

12-13-2006, 11:16 AM	#3 (permalink)
whitebark Part-Time Zombie Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 3,265 298.15 NP$ (Donate)	"How long until the mobile is the heart of entertainment?" Forever - my idea of entertainment doesn't revolve around staring at a handheld screen. The mobile is more like a hand that helps you get entertainment - it's not entertainment itself. Entertainment is so many different things to so many people. I work on a computer all day long - the last thing I want to do on off-time is be entertained by being tethered to a mobile device. __________________ Canadian Domain Names \| Safe Domain Search! \| Freelance Work *DOT CA DOMAINS DEMYSTIFIED!* \| How To Register and Use CCTLDs Website Hosting Coupons \| ZOMBIES \| Green Business Directory

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RogueWriter The Buddha Of Bubbas Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Smalltown USA Posts: 4,496 49.90 NP$ (Donate)	My kids are constantly asking if they can use my phone while on a trip. Not to call, but, rather to play with one or two games that are on the device. If I had access to the internet via my cell, they would be all over that - and they will grow up using that technology for work and enjoyment, and, well, filler, when there is nothing else to do. Given the hectic lives many live, people will be shopping online while they are on a bus or car pooling or at lunch, or buying movie tickets on the way there, just to ensure they have a seat at the movie of choice. Perhaps it will not be the entertainment vehicle of choice, but, then, perhaps cell phones will continue to evolve, too, as they become more efficient at incorporating what their customers want. __________________ For Sale Only $25: TacticsForum.com

12-13-2006, 01:14 PM	#18 (permalink)
runsome NamePros Regular Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 262 160.00 NP$ (Donate)	Good article... I'm banking on it.... Ent.mobi __________________ LoadFavs.com - LoadFavs.mobi - P-O-K-E-R.mobi

12-13-2006, 11:34 AM	#7 (permalink)
seanboy Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,188 0.00 NP$ (Donate)	u gotta love .mobi haters

12-13-2006, 11:59 AM	#10 (permalink)
seanboy Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,188 0.00 NP$ (Donate)	Yes, it is true that any domain can be accessed by a mobile device. Yes, it is true that you can take a .com and make it mobile-accessible. But, it wasn't really being done until now. .Mobi introduces standards to make accessing the web easier. .Mobi is pulling together mobile developers (wap, wml, etc.) together to start something new, something that hardly anyone had been paying attention to. I've been developing mobile sites for about two years, and it has been a pain in the ass to develop a site using wap or wml. .Mobi finally brings something to the table. It brings compliance. It brings standards that we as mobile web developers can all agree on. Never until the past few months have so many people paid attention to mobile development. Yes, it could have been done with .com, but it wasn't. That's all I ever hear from .mobi haters: "It can be done with .com lol!!!!1111." Well then DO IT. The only thing lame here is your relentless bashing of us so-called "fanatics." Anyways...back to discussing the article...

12-13-2006, 01:17 PM	#19 (permalink)
Lasher Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Orlando Posts: 1,208 1,831.00 NP$ (Donate)	RNR (commn acronym, look it up) waiting here Btw, the extension doesn't matter, people will go where quality content is. The promise of .mobi for me is the vision of developed sites on every premium keyword. Think about how powerful that will be if realized. No other extension has it, including .COM. I'm not buying that .MOBI will be the default on mobile devices until I see it, and if it does happen it will be because it's where quality content is, not because it's called "MOBI". I've almost even convinced myself of this enough to remove my domains from my sig and wait it out __________________ - Obligatory list of domains: trends.us, gems.us, alpha.us, brakes.us, exhausts.us, karen.us, mmo.us, etc

12-13-2006, 01:24 PM	#21 (permalink)
-db- NamePros Inc. Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: .US of America Posts: 5,570 107.00 NP$ (Donate)	Ok, this is getting off-topic and rather personal. How about something to lighten the mood, one of my dreams... Children of the Web. In the same vain/style as the Stephen King book "Children of the Corn" or movie... The opening scene starts with a boy riding his bicycle across the road, when a guy in a speeding pickup truck runs a stop sign and almost hits him. The angry (and intoxicated) driver then has the nerve to start yelling at the kid, and even kicks his bicycle to the ground. As the man speeds away, the young boy pulls out his mobile device and enters his license plate number, accessing personal information on the man, home address, job, etc... Next, you see the boy message a couple of his friends, and suddenly an entire network of kids begin to destroy and dissect the man's life, canceling all his credit cards, draining his bank account, ruining his reputation. These kids are 'wired' on a level we don't understand. You don't want to piss them off. Their whole world is connected to, and accessed from, these next generation mobile devices. With razor thin pop-up LCD screens, retractable fold-up mini keyboards, and a web designed and built just for them! Muhahahaha....evil laugh.... Children of the Web. If only I was a film maker. __________________ I support Children: Wish.org \| MissingKids.com I support Animals: SPCA.org \| SPCA.com Jeff \| Armstrong \| Grrilla - First 3 inductees into NamePro's Hall-Of-Fame.

12-13-2006, 01:26 PM	#22 (permalink)
Lasher Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Orlando Posts: 1,208 1,831.00 NP$ (Donate)	I'm so special, I responded to your thread before you posted it. Now who wants to buy next week's lottery numbers? __________________ - Obligatory list of domains: trends.us, gems.us, alpha.us, brakes.us, exhausts.us, karen.us, mmo.us, etc

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