binaryman

http://mobhappy.com/blog1/2006/10/31...n-they-answer/

nrmillions

Everyone already knows Rick Schwartz is the one who bought flowers.mobi

binaryman

Yes I know that everyone knows that but that's not the point. The point is does this Carlo dude have a point?

nrmillions

I think he is right that the reason the good names were held back for auction is for them to make more money off of them, but I think this is good for people who own .mobi since it will keep the extension in the news and keep the hype up.

snoop

Agree, auctioning names at domain conferences isn't going to doing anything to aid development, it is simply a means of getting the best price possible for a name, blind freddy can see that. There is nothing wrong with them selling off the names to speculators so I don't see why they need to try and dress it up as something it is not.

klm390

Yes, everyone knows who bought flowers.mobi, but the point of the artical is the conspiracy theory behind the mobi craze. I have been wondering if Rick had any other connections that would allow him to gain from the semi-big purchase of Flowers and it appears he does. He pumped up everyone with his purchase and from that point on things went nuts. I just hope to ride the wave and come out ahead.

iNod

We can sit here and make assumptions. Or we can wait and see what happens in a few years.

Personally what are a 100 mobi's at $20 a peice? $2K? Thats not a bad investment even if it doesn't work it.. You still got yourself a good chance of selling them because mobile will always be there.

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Infinity

Yes keep rinding the wave!

This is a big one!

BocaVision

Binaryman:
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/dot-mobi/255860-what-do-the-mobi-domainers-make.html

Keep in mind that the owner of Flowers.com and 5 other people were bidding against Rick at TRAFFIC. The owner of Flowers.com made a bid of $190,000 for Flowers.mobi.

Was the owner of Flowers.com part of the .mobi conspiracy too?
or for that matter, the Fortune 500 company that bought Fun.mobi for $100,000?

Hypothetically, so if Nokia buys CellPhones.mobi for $6 million or Starbucks buys Coffee.mobi for $2 million are they going to be part of the .mobi conspiracy too?

Look, during the next 2 years we are going to witness the unveiling & acquisitions of SEVERAL premium .mobi domains headlining in multiple prime venues. Endusers will develop their brands for the Mobile Web. BMW.mobi BusinessWeek.mobi Weather.mobi MobileNews.mobi (Microsoft) MobileTvPhone.mobi (Samsung) and thousands of other major corporations.

It's healthy to be skeptical, but I suggest one steps back and look at the big .mobi picture.

Michael

snoop

I don't really follow, how is it not a bad investment if things don't work out? surely you lose the 2k? I hope you can see the downside potential.

??? wasn't the name bought by a domainer?, anything.com?

MinionDH

you make some excellent points michael. I hope to see more posts from you in the future
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the upside outweighs the downside by a large margin.

"you don't have a chance if you don't take one"

nrmillions

its definitely not a bad investment. losing 2k is not going to effect your life at all and is basically less than what it costs to buy a new plasma tv. if mobi takes off and your 100 names are good then it could be worth a fortune to the point where it can change your entire life forever. Even if mobi doesnt take off there is still a chance that you can recover at least a portion of the 2k which would make your total loss even less than 2k.

snoop

so much rampant speculation, surely people can see this investment is high risk because the extension is unproven? The potential payoff *if* it works out is high, the potential to make a sharp loss is also high.

Binfus

Well, snoop....speculation, by its very nature, can always be labelled as "rampant"....not sure if couple of hundred thousand regs in 6 weeks (plus sunrise period) is that rampant ....don't think numbers were that different at similar stage for .info, .biz or more recently .eu. As for the extension being "unproven"....its like "Duh"...its barely a few weeks old..!! As for your last sentence: does it even need to be said? So, the point is this: you have really said nothing in your post but that you didn't play .mobi, you don't care for it, and probably you'd like to see it go to oblivion....am I wrong?
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=255860

As for the thread starter, all one can say is: Yes, we know you've poured some dough into this .mobi thing, and you need periodic reassurances, but its only time that would either rea$$ure you handsomely or provide you a chance to learn from your mi$take$....sorry, there's no short cut here, there are those who've been in line long before .mobi came around...those who invested in .info, .biz and .us and the like...and are still waiting for their payday....!!

snoop

My comments are about speculators who seemingly can't see much potential for downside in this extension, not about the volumes being registered.

gou

I have been selling quite actively to cover my costs. My goal is to play with house money. You can always manage and minimize risks.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=255860
Your point is well taken, though. Nothing is guaranteed.

hawkeye

But snoop, can you not also agree, that supposing the extension should fail, (should!), and fall into a worse case senerio of it being a .biz like extension, that by regging good keywords and generics in the .mobi ext, those reggers will still have good names worth something better than reg fee, and even very developable domain names??

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snoop

I don't see the logic, if people are registering names for reg fee now, those types of names will largely be worthless if the extension does not do well. People who can't see the downside potential are kidding themselves.

OptimalNames

I guess I need something cleared up... with .mobi, is the mobilephone the target device? If so, the great majority of them have standard phone keypads which, for example, requires you to press the number 7 four times to get the letter "S" to appear. And that's one of the more heavily used letters.

How are these names being valued so high when a lot of people are going to get tired of pressing all those keys for what normally looks like a short name? Not to mention any pausing that must be done when consecutive letters are will require the same number on the keypad.

For example: flowers.mobi aside from the .mobi extension, you'd have to press
3 3 3 (F) 5 5 5 5 (L) 6 6 6 (O) 9 (W) 3 3 (E) 7 (R) {pause} 7 7 7 7 (S)

Thats 19 key presses for the name and doesnt include the need to pause and the .mobi part...

Am I lost or missing something? Maybe. I guess I am confused and would welcome anyone's opinions and input. To me, its got to be short and as few keypresses as possible..
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=255860

I have registered three .mobi names myself but now I am thinking that if these names are simple to key in (smallest keypress count), have some sort of ease of remembering it - and are kept short (like 4 or 5 characters) then what's the point of TheBestDarnMobileWebSitePeriod.mobi ?

Thanks!

Carlton

Missed out I see? Your insight was long ago considered by mobi registrants. The sky is blue. We know. Perhaps you would like to warn us of the dangers of ingesting drano.

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gamehouse

Well, I will touch two points from your post.

Though, it seems now as if .mobi is targeted for mobile phone devices, it may not be long before all kinds of mobile devices can access .mobi sites including, may be, regular pcs. Heard of the news where you can watch high definition TV on xbox? MS recently announced it.

And next about pressing the keys, that also may not be for long. One argument is for voice control web access. It may take quite a while before it is possible, but it is still a solution. Then devices that do not need multiple pressing.

GH

gou

People text message but they can't even bother typing "flowers"?
People in Japan send full length emails from their cell phones. Not only do they have to type the "alphabets" but they also have to convert them into Chinese characters called kanji. You make it out to be a very difficult task, but that's not the case.
And this is assuming that mobile devices don't evolve...

snoop

I didn't buy any myself because I think the downside outweighs the upside, not that this extension doesn't have a chance of being a success, it may do well.
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If you read back through this thread you will see that some people cannot see downside with this extension, contrary to your thinking, indeed just go up a a few posts.

hawkeye

Ok, then the people that regged .biz names, a worthless extension up to now, regged worthless names that have sold for $xxxxs??? On your own forum there's a .biz sales thread, and these sales appear to be more than reg fee!! I could though be wrong, but I doubt forsale.biz was regged for $3400.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=255860

Your arguements against .mobi seem strongly geared to the devils advocate position of "'what if' it fails, you .mobi reggers have no one to blame but your blindness." Just curious, how many .mobi's have you 'not' regged?

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snoop

I'm fairly certain that you haven't understood my post at all, in fact it is even clearer that you are looking at the positives and not seeing the negatives, ie all the .biz's that were registered and haven't sold.