LLL vs. NNNN for .mobi

MCDomains · 10-03-2006, 12:17 PM

There are more LLL's than NNNN's ... it's 100x easier to type in a NNNN than some random LLL

I think NNNN.mobi domains would be much better for mobile users...

What does everyone else think?

Bodhi · 10-03-2006, 12:56 PM

I guess I just don't get it. Maybe it doesn't work they way I thought. But when your browsing the web on a phone don't you have to go through the letters before you get to the numbers like when you text message? I must be missing something.

MinionDH · 10-03-2006, 01:53 PM

9,999 possible NNNN
17,576 possible LLL

If the numbers actually represent a word (like 2277 = cars), then yes, there could be some value there. Here are some NNNN.mobi still available at the time of this posting:

2742 Asia
9463 Wine
4653 Gold
7355 Sell
3784 Drug
8324 Tech
8687 Tour
5437 Kids
2489 City
7368 Rent
8378 Test
2582 Club
3876 Euro
6255 Mall
7387 Pets

hawkeye · 10-03-2006, 02:23 PM

I believe the LLL count is 17,576, not 456,976. that is for LLLLs.

MinionDH · 10-03-2006, 02:26 PM

Originally Posted by hawkeye

I believe the LLL count is 17,576, not 456,976. that is for LLLLs.

yup accidently did the calculation for LLLL

Jammer · 10-03-2006, 02:49 PM

I missing something I think...what would the number be for bmw for example?

MinionDH · 10-03-2006, 02:54 PM

Have a look at the numbers and letters on a phone

2: A B C
3: D E F
4: G H I
5: J K L
6: M N O
7: P Q R S
8: T U V
9: W X Y Z

BMW = 269

MCDomains · 10-03-2006, 07:19 PM

Originally Posted by MinionDH

Have a look at the numbers and letters on a phone
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/dot-mobi/243852-lll-vs-nnnn-for-mobi.html

2: A B C
3: D E F
4: G H I
5: J K L
6: M N O
7: P Q R S
8: T U V
9: W X Y Z

BMW = 269

Umm... but when you're actually typing it in "B" is "22" ... so "BMW" is "2269"

movingconcierge · 10-03-2006, 07:44 PM

On every web enabled phone that I have had I would have to go through the letters before the numbers...sometimes even the capital versions of the letters too...

Of course you could just select the numerical typeset in functions, but who would really do that. Also, who is going to do the button pushing math to come up with the alpha equivalent? I don't think I would ever naturally think about going to 2269.mobi for BMW...not ever.

Also, numbers just don't lend themselves to being memorized by the masses (no pun intended). Does anyone know the first 4,5,6,7 digits of Pi without looking it up! No. But you could probably rattle off a random 4-7 alpha name without too much trouble.

I'm afraid that LLL will once again rule the top of the charts. I've got all I can afford at the moment. I'm pretty happy with them too. I'm not even looking toward the number lines.

That's my two 2-3-6-8-7

MCDomains · 10-03-2006, 08:08 PM

I hear ya - no one would think of the numbers if the site is letters, I'm just saying that it takes those key presses to get to BMW.

MinionDH · 10-03-2006, 08:25 PM

Originally Posted by MCDomains

I hear ya - no one would think of the numbers if the site is letters, I'm just saying that it takes those key presses to get to BMW.

Sorry for getting this post off-topic with the NNNN translating to words thing. My phone has a setting that automatically figures out the word when just typing the number. Example: If I wanted the word "Wine" I would just press 9463 rather than 94446633. It comes up with the word I'm looking for 90% of the time. I figured the value of a NNNN would be higher if the numbers also represented a word.. just a theory but we'll see how things turn out

movingconcierge · 10-03-2006, 08:29 PM

Just for sh!ts and giggles I looked at NNN ~ they are ALL GONE, but NNNN are overabundant.

Here are some of the better numbers that I found. They are better in my opinion because they are only ones and zeros and don't require any multi button push...

10100
010101
101000
101010
110011
0000000
1111111

MinionDH · 10-03-2006, 08:32 PM

Yup, NNN were all taken on September 26th (plus 90 were held as premium names).. some of us were lucky enough to get a few. There are still a lot of NNNN but the best ones seem to be all scooped up

MCDomains · 10-03-2006, 08:47 PM

Originally Posted by MinionDH

Sorry for getting this post off-topic with the NNNN translating to words thing. My phone has a setting that automatically figures out the word when just typing the number. Example: If I wanted the word "Wine" I would just press 9463 rather than 94446633. It comes up with the word I'm looking for 90% of the time. I figured the value of a NNNN would be higher if the numbers also represented a word.. just a theory but we'll see how things turn out

All phones have that setting, but it wouldn't apply to BMW, haha.

Morgan · 10-03-2006, 11:09 PM

I think LLL.mobi will be a lot more valuable in the future. When the internet takes off on mobiles we will start seeing inbuilt keyboards anyways!

Bodhi · 10-03-2006, 11:14 PM

As long as the backers of this extension don't leave us holding our .mobi in our hand I think we will all do very well.

Dan · 10-04-2006, 04:06 PM

On my phone, you can press # to get to all numbers. (AKA pressing 3 gives you 3.)

That would make it 5 buttons for an NNNN, and from 3 to 12 for an LLL. (7 = PQRS, SSS.mobi-- also, of course there would be the .mobi but that's the same for both.)

MCDomains · 10-04-2006, 04:09 PM

Originally Posted by Dan

On my phone, you can press # to get to all numbers. (AKA pressing 3 gives you 3.)
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=243852

That would make it 5 buttons for an NNNN, and from 3 to 12 for an LLL. (7 = PQRS, SSS.mobi-- also, of course there would be the .mobi but that's the same for both.)

We're banking on phones auto-filling the .mobi someday... we can only dream.

BuysDomains · 10-04-2006, 04:12 PM

Just get a Treo.

Dan · 10-04-2006, 04:13 PM

Originally Posted by BuysDomains

Just get a Treo.

It's not about what we have. It's about what the millions of other people have.

JasMate · 10-04-2006, 04:17 PM

I really don't think we are understanding just how these devices will operate in the future. Personally I can't see us still typing into our phones in 5 years - by then it will be all voice command and or pda style touch screen / pen devices ect.

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Jammer · 10-06-2006, 09:10 AM

My gut feeling is that both NNNN and 3 letter mobis will sell out in the first week,if not before the price drop.

seanboy · 10-11-2006, 10:22 PM

i've been registering the numerical equivalent of premium names..for example 8255.mobi is talk.mobi. Better safe than sorry I suppose

gingeman · 10-12-2006, 02:30 AM

Hmm, I think this has gone slightly away from the original question. The 'typing numbers to mean letters' thing i do not think will take off at all. What people miss about numerics is the chinese market, which lends itself better to numbers than latin characters.
For me, a random nnnn.mobi has more potential than a random lll.mobi at the moment. Everything is speculation at present.

Bodhi · 10-12-2006, 05:14 AM

I think I'm missing your point, seems like you are against numbers (The 'typing numbers to mean letters' thing i do not think will take off at all) then you are for them (For me, a random nnnn.mobi has more potential than a random lll.mobi at the moment), please clairfy.

Originally Posted by gingeman

Hmm, I think this has gone slightly away from the original question. The 'typing numbers to mean letters' thing i do not think will take off at all. What people miss about numerics is the chinese market, which lends itself better to numbers than latin characters.
For me, a random nnnn.mobi has more potential than a random lll.mobi at the moment. Everything is speculation at present.

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10-03-2006, 01:53 PM	#3 (permalink)
MinionDH NamePros Regular Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 566	9,999 possible NNNN 17,576 possible LLL If the numbers actually represent a word (like 2277 = cars), then yes, there could be some value there. Here are some NNNN.mobi still available at the time of this posting: 2742 Asia 9463 Wine 4653 Gold 7355 Sell 3784 Drug 8324 Tech 8687 Tour 5437 Kids 2489 City 7368 Rent 8378 Test 2582 Club 3876 Euro 6255 Mall 7387 Pets Last edited by MinionDH; 10-03-2006 at 02:25 PM.

10-03-2006, 02:23 PM	#4 (permalink)
hawkeye Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Hollyweird Posts: 2,601	I believe the LLL count is 17,576, not 456,976. that is for LLLLs. __________________ FixedPriceDomains.com "Dream, Believe, Achieve!"

10-03-2006, 08:08 PM	THREAD STARTER #10 (permalink)
MCDomains DomainSeeking.com Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Boston Posts: 2,415 Follow @AdvoCareMatt	I hear ya - no one would think of the numbers if the site is letters, I'm just saying that it takes those key presses to get to BMW. __________________ Erin Burnett CNN \| Free Images Royalty Free Be Your OWN Boss - AdvoCare Angie Harmon Pics

10-03-2006, 08:32 PM	#13 (permalink)
MinionDH NamePros Regular Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 566	Yup, NNN were all taken on September 26th (plus 90 were held as premium names).. some of us were lucky enough to get a few. There are still a lot of NNNN but the best ones seem to be all scooped up Last edited by MinionDH; 10-03-2006 at 08:38 PM.

10-03-2006, 12:56 PM	#2 (permalink)
Bodhi Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 3,136	I guess I just don't get it. Maybe it doesn't work they way I thought. But when your browsing the web on a phone don't you have to go through the letters before you get to the numbers like when you text message? I must be missing something.

10-03-2006, 02:49 PM	#6 (permalink)
Jammer Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,493	I missing something I think...what would the number be for bmw for example?

10-03-2006, 02:54 PM	#7 (permalink)
MinionDH NamePros Regular Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 566	Have a look at the numbers and letters on a phone 2: A B C 3: D E F 4: G H I 5: J K L 6: M N O 7: P Q R S 8: T U V 9: W X Y Z BMW = 269

10-03-2006, 07:44 PM	#9 (permalink)
movingconcierge Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 2,251	On every web enabled phone that I have had I would have to go through the letters before the numbers...sometimes even the capital versions of the letters too... Of course you could just select the numerical typeset in functions, but who would really do that. Also, who is going to do the button pushing math to come up with the alpha equivalent? I don't think I would ever naturally think about going to 2269.mobi for BMW...not ever. Also, numbers just don't lend themselves to being memorized by the masses (no pun intended). Does anyone know the first 4,5,6,7 digits of Pi without looking it up! No. But you could probably rattle off a random 4-7 alpha name without too much trouble. I'm afraid that LLL will once again rule the top of the charts. I've got all I can afford at the moment. I'm pretty happy with them too. I'm not even looking toward the number lines. That's my two 2-3-6-8-7

10-03-2006, 08:29 PM	#12 (permalink)
movingconcierge Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 2,251	Just for sh!ts and giggles I looked at NNN ~ they are ALL GONE, but NNNN are overabundant. Here are some of the better numbers that I found. They are better in my opinion because they are only ones and zeros and don't require any multi button push... 10100 010101 101000 101010 110011 0000000 1111111

10-03-2006, 11:09 PM	#15 (permalink)
Morgan Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 1,842	I think LLL.mobi will be a lot more valuable in the future. When the internet takes off on mobiles we will start seeing inbuilt keyboards anyways! __________________ Horse Racing Tips - Sports News - ZYV.COM 5L.ORG P3O.COM 0BR.COM 0LY.COM CW0.COM 4W9.COM QVI.NET EYV.NET GQX.NET GYH.NET

10-03-2006, 11:14 PM	#16 (permalink)
Bodhi Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 3,136	As long as the backers of this extension don't leave us holding our .mobi in our hand I think we will all do very well.

10-04-2006, 04:06 PM	#17 (permalink)
Dan Buy my domains. Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 2,792	On my phone, you can press # to get to all numbers. (AKA pressing 3 gives you 3.) That would make it 5 buttons for an NNNN, and from 3 to 12 for an LLL. (7 = PQRS, SSS.mobi-- also, of course there would be the .mobi but that's the same for both.)

10-04-2006, 04:12 PM	#19 (permalink)
BuysDomains Account Suspended Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 373	Just get a Treo.

10-04-2006, 04:17 PM	#21 (permalink)
JasMate Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 1,685	I really don't think we are understanding just how these devices will operate in the future. Personally I can't see us still typing into our phones in 5 years - by then it will be all voice command and or pda style touch screen / pen devices ect. ... __________________ Cannondale Is Your New Bicycle

10-06-2006, 09:10 AM	#22 (permalink)
Jammer Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,493	My gut feeling is that both NNNN and 3 letter mobis will sell out in the first week,if not before the price drop.

10-11-2006, 10:22 PM	#23 (permalink)
seanboy Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,212	i've been registering the numerical equivalent of premium names..for example 8255.mobi is talk.mobi. Better safe than sorry I suppose

10-12-2006, 02:30 AM	#24 (permalink)
gingeman Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Classified Posts: 2,668	Hmm, I think this has gone slightly away from the original question. The 'typing numbers to mean letters' thing i do not think will take off at all. What people miss about numerics is the chinese market, which lends itself better to numbers than latin characters. For me, a random nnnn.mobi has more potential than a random lll.mobi at the moment. Everything is speculation at present. __________________ Poker Vids 3 Character domain! Subscribe to my newsletter! Accurate Name Domains For Sale DomainingLinks.com

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