.INFO domains in one year from now (will .info market collapse?)

groog · 11-25-2004, 06:07 AM

The last months info domains could be registered for free. As far as I could find out this let to more than 1.500.000 additional info names registered. Zooknic reported at july 24th 2004 1,211,384 regged .infos. At the moment whois.cs stats reports 2,889,797 .infos regged.
What will happen in a year from now, if I guess at least 75% of them will expire and not renewed, which means a drop in info domains of over more than 1.000.000. Will this drop mean a collapse of the .info market? If you ask me the drop will at least severly hurt the .info market.
Any comments and ideas on this are welcome.

suthra · 11-25-2004, 06:15 AM

I dont think so. I think this free campaign is just to create an awareness of the existence of a TLD called ".info" in the public and they have surely succeeded in this.

DNshop · 11-25-2004, 06:29 AM

.info is a good extention

jon · 11-25-2004, 06:38 AM

Yeah i agree, .info is a very nice extention. Expect a rise in big .info sales.

dgridley · 11-25-2004, 07:29 AM

The good info's will always be worth money... the best of the drops will be immediately snatched up by those who appreciate them!

mole · 11-25-2004, 07:42 AM

Originally Posted by groog

which means a drop in info domains of over more than 1.000.000. Will this drop mean a collapse of the .info market?

hmmm, strange thinking. Ok, to keep things simple, when the .COM namespace decimated by way over 4,000,000 after 2000, did it collapse? Nah, it just made Yun Ye a rich man.

groog · 11-25-2004, 07:51 AM

Originally Posted by mole

hmmm, strange thinking. Ok, to keep things simple, when the .COM namespace decimated by way over 4,000,000 after 2000, did it collapse? Nah, it just made Yun Ye a rich man.

Don't know the figures but think most people have just registered 25 or more free domains, next year everybody has to pay the full amount if they want to keep them and don't expect everybody to keep all those names.
I however agree with some posts above and expect a huge drop but good names will always keep there value.

AdoptableDomains · 11-25-2004, 07:59 AM

Originally Posted by groog

Don't no the figures but think most people have just register 25 or more free domains, next year everybody has to pay the full amount if reregistering and don't expect everybody reregsitering all those names.
I however agree with some posts above and expect a huge drop but good names will always keep there value.

It's really pretty simple. Park your free names on PPC. If they've made $7 in a year they are worth renewing. If they are worth development and all other TLD's are taken, they might be worth renewing. If neither of the above is true, then you had a year's free trial and let the drop services have them.

mole · 11-25-2004, 08:11 AM

Originally Posted by AdoptableDomains

It's really pretty simple. Park your free names on PPC. If they've made $7 in a year they are worth renewing. If they are worth development and all other TLD's are taken, they might be worth renewing. If neither of the above is true, then you had a year's free trial and let the drop services have them.

Ahh, the thinking that drove 20,000,000 .COMs into the misty "what have you got to lose" PPC graveyard.

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/dot-info/57062-info-domains-one-year-now-will.html

I hope Google Clique (a script that can topple giants like Google) really takes on worldwide like spam. Maybe then, advertisers will realise that it may be better for their profit margins and tax rightoffs to give gold to the beggars of Calcutta.

equity78 · 11-25-2004, 10:36 PM

WHat does that Mean MOle are you against PPC if so why?
ANd I don't know why unless you had stock in the REGISTRY that .info drops will hurt market, like any tld good names will sell just like anything else.

1rrr1 · 11-25-2004, 11:10 PM

i think that there will be a slight crash since the crap domains will all be left to expire.

equity78 · 11-25-2004, 11:50 PM

Afilias the Registry Is not a public entity trading On an exchange so what wilL crash the price of GOOD Names? More Idiotic names registered in .com and don't think that hurt the sale of Stereos.com OR Yun Ye cashing out.

tony84 · 11-26-2004, 01:33 AM

i dont think they will collapse, i have a .info (i only registered 1) depending how much it costs to renew it ill stick with it as ive already earnt enough to pay for a standard domain in about 14 days of it being online, and i think like most other people if its actually worth them keeping, for what its earnt, for web design practice, SEO practice or whatever even the value knowing theyve created a website that people will see even it it earns nothing they will all renew the domain only a few badly registered names will go

selfmindead · 11-26-2004, 02:25 AM

the domain market is just getting more and more condensed i think .info's are only going up. the good ones will stay at first but all the crapp"searchsubmitwebsitehere.info" kinds of sites are gonna go bye bye and never be picked up agian. lol

vimkar · 11-26-2004, 05:09 AM

well my opinion is that info is the greatest extension

why???

because internet=information

so .info is best suited for most of the .com sites online right now
and most of the people look for INFORMATIONS....

right??
i believe someday will grow ......

nicholas · 11-26-2004, 06:06 AM

There might be a slight temporary drop on the value of .info for a while when the expirations come due and lots of them drop. But:

1) the good ones will always retain their value. Otherwise the market for them would be good as others would gladly snatch those, whether from a direct purchase or from drops.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=57062

2) The marketing effort of giving free .info's, while maybe risky, did give it a wide reach and awareness, which can only be good

3) .info in itself is logical and not encumbered by factors other domains have (like .biz being ideally for business concerns. ccTLDs for countries, and so on)

4) .info is about, well, 'information' and that's what the Internet is in large part all about, so you can't really go wrong with that.

5) To date there are already plenty of sites that sport a .info TLD, while other tlds don't have such traction, especially in such a short period.

So whatever the short-term fluctuations for .info is going to be after a year, my guess is that long-term, they'll be strong and viable.

Just my $0.02.

mole · 11-26-2004, 06:45 AM

Originally Posted by equity78

WHat does that Mean MOle are you against PPC if so why?
ANd I don't know why unless you had stock in the REGISTRY that .info drops will hurt market, like any tld good names will sell just like anything else.

1. Click fraud will be done using very sophisticated scripts and massive proxy networks that will fool even a trained eye. This is just the beginning.

2. You don't need stocks in the REGISTRY, you just need common sense and the ability to ponder the future.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=57062

equity78 · 11-26-2004, 09:51 AM

OK well I am not sure why we have a PPC theme In the .info thread but I know someone else mentioned a place to go with the .infos. IT is the beginning just like with anything else there will always be changes and advertisers will always advertise. I was just curious why you didn't like PPC

COmmon SENSE, it is common sense to know that fools registering reallygreatsexbooks.info will not affect sale of Good .info's

Mark · 11-26-2004, 10:17 AM

Agreed w/ Most Above ~ The decent well fitting Domains will thrive and should be Renewed or Picked up Again.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=57062
I think the promotion has bothered Domainers more than the General Public - I still know a good deal of Active IT minded people who have never even heard of all this - They just don't really deal with the Domain Side of things ....... I'm currently running a 4-6 letters long dictionary word list and am still finding some fitting words (About 700 confirmed common used words so far

I'll probably grab 4-5 more tonight from what I've Seen so far) - IMHO - It won't hurt that much in the Long Run ... I am already going to transfer some in to my favorite regs adding another year to them.

Qwert · 11-26-2004, 11:18 AM

The drops are just shitty infos. The good infos will be renewed.

IAmAllanShore · 11-26-2004, 11:55 AM

I'm still willing to bet that the huge glut of .infos all available at one time will weaken the strength of the good ones that drop at the same time. Basically, if 500,000 drop in the same week, and 1/100th of them are good, then that's still 5,000 good names at one time, increased supply and level demand.

-Allan

selfmindead · 11-26-2004, 12:25 PM

Originally Posted by all4cost

Agreed w/ Most Above ~ The decent well fitting Domains will thrive and should be Renewed or Picked up Again.
I think the promotion has bothered Domainers more than the General Public - I still know a good deal of Active IT minded people who have never even heard of all this - They just don't really deal with the Domain Side of things ....... I'm currently running a 4-6 letters long dictionary word list and am still finding some fitting words (About 700 confirmed common used words so far

I'll probably grab 4-5 more tonight from what I've Seen so far) - IMHO - It won't hurt that much in the Long Run ... I am already going to transfer some in to my favorite regs adding another year to them.

do you have a program for checking domain names with a list of dictionary words, (not none-dictionary words). Cause I'd imagine it would work similar to a brute force type program right? reads dictionary words from a text file and mixes and matches them and hands you out a list. if you dont have this.... i think i need to make one. Would anybody be interested in purchasing such a product? (ill start a new thread later this doesnt belong here but i had to quote him on it)

Tippy · 11-26-2004, 12:55 PM

To me all these .info registrations will only help the other extensions gain value, the .info name space is now full of poopy names, its gotta hurt...

Mike

equity78 · 11-26-2004, 02:14 PM

????????? Why Tippy all ext have bad names.

Tippy · 11-26-2004, 02:37 PM

I'm not sure what your asking me, but I'm not saying all .infos are worthless, we all know thats not true. Theres just been such a mass registration of any word/term which doesnt really fit the .info ext.

Mike

11-25-2004, 06:07 AM	THREAD STARTER #1 (permalink)
groog NamePros Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 57	.INFO domains in one year from now (will .info market collapse?) The last months info domains could be registered for free. As far as I could find out this let to more than 1.500.000 additional info names registered. Zooknic reported at july 24th 2004 1,211,384 regged .infos. At the moment whois.cs stats reports 2,889,797 .infos regged. What will happen in a year from now, if I guess at least 75% of them will expire and not renewed, which means a drop in info domains of over more than 1.000.000. Will this drop mean a collapse of the .info market? If you ask me the drop will at least severly hurt the .info market. Any comments and ideas on this are welcome.

11-25-2004, 06:15 AM	#2 (permalink)
suthra Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 2,656	I dont think so. I think this free campaign is just to create an awareness of the existence of a TLD called ".info" in the public and they have surely succeeded in this. __________________ A single smile can be a solution to several problems.:) www.adult.ec is for Sale! Why not make an Offer?

11-25-2004, 06:29 AM	#3 (permalink)
DNshop NamePros Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Taiwan Posts: 33	.info is a good extention __________________ :wave: lÃ¶Ã¶k the Domain List@lÃ¶Ã¶k.com

11-25-2004, 06:38 AM	#4 (permalink)
jon Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: uk Posts: 1,378	Yeah i agree, .info is a very nice extention. Expect a rise in big .info sales. __________________ ► j0n.org

11-25-2004, 07:29 AM	#5 (permalink)
dgridley NamePros Legend Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: SW Missouri Posts: 18,396 Follow @davew3b	The good info's will always be worth money... the best of the drops will be immediately snatched up by those who appreciate them! __________________ davew3b tumblr blog \| davew3b posterous blog

11-25-2004, 10:36 PM	#10 (permalink)
equity78 NamePros Expert Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 7,639	WHat does that Mean MOle are you against PPC if so why? ANd I don't know why unless you had stock in the REGISTRY that .info drops will hurt market, like any tld good names will sell just like anything else.

11-25-2004, 11:10 PM	#11 (permalink)
1rrr1 NamePros Expert Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 6,286	i think that there will be a slight crash since the crap domains will all be left to expire. __________________ Drop Catching Services - Click here for more info Especially effective for .co, .in and .co.in domains. I also offer drop lists for these extensions.

11-25-2004, 11:50 PM	#12 (permalink)
equity78 NamePros Expert Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 7,639	Afilias the Registry Is not a public entity trading On an exchange so what wilL crash the price of GOOD Names? More Idiotic names registered in .com and don't think that hurt the sale of Stereos.com OR Yun Ye cashing out.

11-26-2004, 01:33 AM	#13 (permalink)
tony84 Account Suspended Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 623	i dont think they will collapse, i have a .info (i only registered 1) depending how much it costs to renew it ill stick with it as ive already earnt enough to pay for a standard domain in about 14 days of it being online, and i think like most other people if its actually worth them keeping, for what its earnt, for web design practice, SEO practice or whatever even the value knowing theyve created a website that people will see even it it earns nothing they will all renew the domain only a few badly registered names will go

11-26-2004, 02:25 AM	#14 (permalink)
selfmindead NamePros Regular Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Orange County, California. Posts: 389	the domain market is just getting more and more condensed i think .info's are only going up. the good ones will stay at first but all the crapp"searchsubmitwebsitehere.info" kinds of sites are gonna go bye bye and never be picked up agian. lol __________________ My del.icio.us

11-26-2004, 05:09 AM	#15 (permalink)
vimkar Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,200	well my opinion is that info is the greatest extension why??? because internet=information so .info is best suited for most of the .com sites online right now and most of the people look for INFORMATIONS.... right?? i believe someday will grow ...... __________________ Forex Trading Information

11-26-2004, 06:06 AM	#16 (permalink)
nicholas NamePros Regular Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: The Beach Posts: 584	There might be a slight temporary drop on the value of .info for a while when the expirations come due and lots of them drop. But: 1) the good ones will always retain their value. Otherwise the market for them would be good as others would gladly snatch those, whether from a direct purchase or from drops. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=57062 2) The marketing effort of giving free .info's, while maybe risky, did give it a wide reach and awareness, which can only be good 3) .info in itself is logical and not encumbered by factors other domains have (like .biz being ideally for business concerns. ccTLDs for countries, and so on) 4) .info is about, well, 'information' and that's what the Internet is in large part all about, so you can't really go wrong with that. 5) To date there are already plenty of sites that sport a .info TLD, while other tlds don't have such traction, especially in such a short period. So whatever the short-term fluctuations for .info is going to be after a year, my guess is that long-term, they'll be strong and viable. Just my $0.02. __________________ Newsback.com -- Commentary and backstories of the news -----------------------------------------------

11-26-2004, 09:51 AM	#18 (permalink)
equity78 NamePros Expert Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 7,639	OK well I am not sure why we have a PPC theme In the .info thread but I know someone else mentioned a place to go with the .infos. IT is the beginning just like with anything else there will always be changes and advertisers will always advertise. I was just curious why you didn't like PPC COmmon SENSE, it is common sense to know that fools registering reallygreatsexbooks.info will not affect sale of Good .info's

11-26-2004, 10:17 AM	#19 (permalink)
Mark Hi :) Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: NC Posts: 9,537	Agreed w/ Most Above ~ The decent well fitting Domains will thrive and should be Renewed or Picked up Again. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=57062 I think the promotion has bothered Domainers more than the General Public - I still know a good deal of Active IT minded people who have never even heard of all this - They just don't really deal with the Domain Side of things ....... I'm currently running a 4-6 letters long dictionary word list and am still finding some fitting words (About 700 confirmed common used words so far I'll probably grab 4-5 more tonight from what I've Seen so far) - IMHO - It won't hurt that much in the Long Run ... I am already going to transfer some in to my favorite regs adding another year to them. __________________ When the man at the door yelled "Alcohol , Tobacco , and Firearms" .... I just assumed it was a delivery !

11-26-2004, 11:18 AM	#20 (permalink)
Qwert Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: ~Rented~ Posts: 2,930	The drops are just shitty infos. The good infos will be renewed. __________________ [Max font size in sig area is "2"]

11-26-2004, 11:55 AM	#21 (permalink)
IAmAllanShore NamePros Expert Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Esse quam videri Posts: 8,316	I'm still willing to bet that the huge glut of .infos all available at one time will weaken the strength of the good ones that drop at the same time. Basically, if 500,000 drop in the same week, and 1/100th of them are good, then that's still 5,000 good names at one time, increased supply and level demand. -Allan __________________ Something Witty This Way Comes...

11-26-2004, 12:55 PM	#23 (permalink)
Tippy NamePros Expert Join Date: May 2003 Location: Montreal Posts: 7,100	To me all these .info registrations will only help the other extensions gain value, the .info name space is now full of poopy names, its gotta hurt... Mike

11-26-2004, 02:14 PM	#24 (permalink)
equity78 NamePros Expert Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 7,639	????????? Why Tippy all ext have bad names.

11-26-2004, 02:37 PM	#25 (permalink)
Tippy NamePros Expert Join Date: May 2003 Location: Montreal Posts: 7,100	I'm not sure what your asking me, but I'm not saying all .infos are worthless, we all know thats not true. Theres just been such a mass registration of any word/term which doesnt really fit the .info ext. Mike

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