4.cn - Safe for domain transactions?

kev · 02-19-2011, 06:14 AM

Hi guys,

Looking for a little bit of advice. I am about to buy domains from someone in China and they can't use Escrow.com. They suggested 4.cn. Is it safe to use this website for escrow? I'm spending quite a lot of money so don't want to enter into anything without knowing what I'm going to expect

How does 4.cn differ from Escrow.com?

Any help would be excellent

Kev

gt88hel · 02-19-2011, 06:51 AM

4.cn is quite safe and it is best domainname auction agency in china.
Just like another "SEDO.COM" in china.

ps: the alexa of 4.cn is 5570,GG PR IS 7

kev · 02-19-2011, 07:35 AM

anymore reviews?

***promo*** · 02-19-2011, 09:08 AM

My first and as of yet only escrow experience with 4.cn was a 9xx$ purchase I made this summer. I sent bulk of the money as a secure deposit before bidding on the domain and the rest after securing it. They had responsive support and it felt safe although it involved me sending a paypal payment to a named individual on their sister site (goldenname.com).

stub · 02-19-2011, 05:36 PM

I read somewhere that it's full of scammers. Sorry I can't provide a link. So they seem to have a cross-section of experiences, imho. So I'd be extremely careful. You won't get your money back out of china, if it goes, whooof!

kev · 02-21-2011, 09:57 AM

Is there another escrow company out there who support Chinese sellers?

I'm extremely uncomfortable with this as I need to send the funds via wire transfer to:

Bank Account Number: 4563511300116916478
Account Owner: XU CAIJUN
Bank Name: BANK OF CHINA HANGZHOU ECONOMIC AND TECHNOLOGICAL DEVELOPMENT ZONE SUB-BRANCH
City: HANGZHOU
Address: NO 3 ROAD, HANGZHOU ECONOMIC AND TECHNOLOGICAL DEVELOPMENT ZONE
SWIFT Code: BKCHCNBJ910

Looks like I'm sending it to a person rather than 4.cn? Should I stay clear?

**SlimPickins** · 10-06-2011, 03:58 PM

so.... anyone here on NP connected with 4.cn? I attempted to sign up months ago but can't access my account, because it isn't "verified".... I never received a "verification" email with a link and my several attempts to get help via support@goldenname.com received NO reply. so basically I have an account I can't use and would rather NOT sign up again with completely different details.... hoping someone here is either affiliated with 4.cn or knows someone that is that can help here........

Angelicus · 11-06-2011, 08:31 AM

Quote:

I never received a "verification" email with a link and my several attempts to get help via support@goldenname.com received NO reply

I have just sign up with 4.cn. I received verification email, and managed to get into my account with my login info w/o problems.

If you want to put your names for sale you have to check "I hereby confirm that I have read and accept the 4.CN's User Agreement."
Problem is... there is NO User Agreement available on the site only <h2> title, thats about it.

Few more things:

- Help center page is coming soon...

- Privacy policy page is copy-paste effort from buydomains.com privacy page except from contact info
you can check the pages yourself
4.cn/policies/privacy - 4.cn privacy page
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/domain-registrar-reviews/736549-4-cn-respectable-or-not.html
buydomains.com/info/privacy.jsp - BuyDomains page
I doubt buydomains has anything to do with it, but who knows...

There is a chance they are in tweaking process atm tho its a bit unprofessional if that is the case.

I am not saying they are scamming ppl, but so far I dont trust them personally.

Angelicus · 11-06-2011, 08:41 AM

edited * kinda double post *

I want to hear your thoughts or experience with them, if any.

Keith · 11-06-2011, 08:45 AM

I signed up with 4.cn last week with no problems. Email verification was sent to me and I also listed my domain for sale. I had to look up the exchange rate but that was not a big deal.

**SlimPickins** · 11-06-2011, 08:56 AM

thanks! angelicus.... i think THAT was the problem.... i noticed there was not an agreement to agree to so didnt check the box. so, my registration must me lost in limbo. When i reattempted to sign up using the same email it said it was already being used, but any attempt to get a password reminder received nothing and my emails to the support email have never been answered. can't really "agree" to terms that I can't read (talk about FINE print!) so maybe is for the better that I can't use the site. oh well.

Angelicus · 11-06-2011, 10:11 AM

Originally Posted by Keith

I signed up with 4.cn last week with no problems. Email verification was sent to me and I also listed my domain for sale. I had to look up the exchange rate but that was not a big deal.

Did you "agree" to terms that you couldn't read, or you didn't bother to read at all ?

Keith · 11-06-2011, 10:27 AM

Originally Posted by Angelicus

Did you "agree" to terms that you couldn't read, or you didn't bother to read at all ?

As usual I just clicked "agree" and moved on. I'm not going to sell in auction there so for me it's just extra exposure. I also left my domain parked at Sedo.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=736549

Please don't tell me you read user agreements. I wouldn't believe you anyhow

As if I have hours to read pages of policy...

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02-19-2011, 05:36 PM	#5 (permalink)
stub NamePros Expert Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 7,313	I read somewhere that it's full of scammers. Sorry I can't provide a link. So they seem to have a cross-section of experiences, imho. So I'd be extremely careful. You won't get your money back out of china, if it goes, whooof! __________________ COMDots - DNDots - StubDomains - WebmasterUnlimited - DNSPortfolio

02-21-2011, 09:57 AM	THREAD STARTER #6 (permalink)
kev KevinMacpherson.co.uk Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Dundee, Scotland Posts: 3,886	Is there another escrow company out there who support Chinese sellers? I'm extremely uncomfortable with this as I need to send the funds via wire transfer to: Bank Account Number: 4563511300116916478 Account Owner: XU CAIJUN Bank Name: BANK OF CHINA HANGZHOU ECONOMIC AND TECHNOLOGICAL DEVELOPMENT ZONE SUB-BRANCH City: HANGZHOU Address: NO 3 ROAD, HANGZHOU ECONOMIC AND TECHNOLOGICAL DEVELOPMENT ZONE SWIFT Code: BKCHCNBJ910 Looks like I'm sending it to a person rather than 4.cn? Should I stay clear? __________________ One Letter Domain Names for sale including F.AF - 40 other names available all priced to sell

11-06-2011, 08:41 AM	#9 (permalink)
Angelicus Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 1,318	4.cn respectable or not? edited * kinda double post * I want to hear your thoughts or experience with them, if any. __________________ Site Editing Revolution \| One Word Domains - For Sale! Last edited by Angelicus; 11-06-2011 at 10:12 AM.

02-19-2011, 06:51 AM	#2 (permalink)
gt88hel NamePros Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 178 Follow @gt888888	4.cn is quite safe and it is best domainname auction agency in china. Just like another "SEDO.COM" in china. ps: the alexa of 4.cn is 5570,GG PR IS 7

02-19-2011, 09:08 AM	#4 (permalink)
*promo* Business Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: DK Posts: 1,010	My first and as of yet only escrow experience with 4.cn was a 9xx$ purchase I made this summer. I sent bulk of the money as a secure deposit before bidding on the domain and the rest after securing it. They had responsive support and it felt safe although it involved me sending a paypal payment to a named individual on their sister site (goldenname.com).

10-06-2011, 03:58 PM	#7 (permalink)
SlimPickins Diggin' the Domains... Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,730	so.... anyone here on NP connected with 4.cn? I attempted to sign up months ago but can't access my account, because it isn't "verified".... I never received a "verification" email with a link and my several attempts to get help via support@goldenname.com received NO reply. so basically I have an account I can't use and would rather NOT sign up again with completely different details.... hoping someone here is either affiliated with 4.cn or knows someone that is that can help here........

11-06-2011, 08:45 AM	#10 (permalink)
Keith Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: "D" town Posts: 3,617	I signed up with 4.cn last week with no problems. Email verification was sent to me and I also listed my domain for sale. I had to look up the exchange rate but that was not a big deal.

11-06-2011, 08:56 AM	#11 (permalink)
SlimPickins Diggin' the Domains... Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,730	thanks! angelicus.... i think THAT was the problem.... i noticed there was not an agreement to agree to so didnt check the box. so, my registration must me lost in limbo. When i reattempted to sign up using the same email it said it was already being used, but any attempt to get a password reminder received nothing and my emails to the support email have never been answered. can't really "agree" to terms that I can't read (talk about FINE print!) so maybe is for the better that I can't use the site. oh well.

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