I am basically brand new to the domain game. A few months back I became
interested in having a web site, but knowing nothing about it I made some mistakes...and lost a little money. The BIGGEST mistake I feel I made is not knowing about registrars and that if you have a DN in mind you can go yourself and register it and develope it later...told you I was "grrreeeennn" basically still am really...anyway, so I chose a host and registered my domain name through them...I did this twice...two different hosts...two different DN's, now the one host basically never even secured me as a client, I just got my DN registered and that was that....paid the fee...blah blah blah, the second did host for a very brief time, they were awful IMO so I opted out, but my other DN was also registered and paid for. Neither of these 2 hosts ever gave me any info on the registrar, ziltch. Now I am getting ready to try and develope these DN's into something, and thanks to what I have learned thus far in this forum, I at least now know where my DN's were registered! The point of all this is Are hosting companies who you employ not obligated to give out your DN registrar info to you? Do I have legal rights to my domain names? Can I get the needed information from the old hosts to access the DN registrars? The big problem is my main DN, the one I am wanting to develope, the status of it is locked....all this was done and set up through a re-selller host of eNom, my old host...and I have no way to access mysite.com on eNom, so do I have rights to the information the old hosting co. has, concerning my DN?
Sorry if this is in the wrong forum, may belong in the legal section, but alas I am still a domain newbie.
P.S. Thanks also to domain.addict for his previous replies in other post.
Thanks in advance,
the host should give you access you will have to email them and see what they say, but the best bet is to never ever let your host register your domain name, register domains yourself and just point the nameservers to the host you are using, this will allow you to have 100% control of your domains at all times and then if the host sucks a simple change of nameservers to a new company & you have a new host, the few bucks ya save on letting them register them turns into more work for you in the long run.
I know, I know....I at least have learned, from the kind people here, some valuable information about DN's. I have e-mailed them, they sent me a link that took me to a "myoldhost" domain name control panel, it had a transfer domain name option, so of course I clicked it and then it said: you need to change the status from locked, to do this you need to go the place the DN was originally registered.....well, duh, I kinda figured that! But I don't have an account with them! No way to log in or what not...I explained all this really in my first e-mail to the "oldhost". So as of now I have sent them another e-mail asking for specific instructions on how to change the status through eNom..so I am again waiting for a reply. Time willl tell if I ever get this issue resolved, but at least I know what to do in the future!
Thanks for your reply,
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I hope I have understood all that has been posted so far. First let me say that we all have lost $ on mistakes.
But, your rights to a domain name depend upon your agreement. If the agreement said you get a free name, but somewhere in the fine print it says the hosting company is the owner of the domain, I am sorry to say that you may not own it.
Can you give a url or PM the url so we can read the agreement and unofficially (I am not a lawyer and I don’t play one in the movies) let you know what we think.
Unfortunately, a scheme is the domain for "free" if you pay for hosting. But the host really owns the domain. Regardless, I don’t know about your situation without reading.
PS. Also include any related time periods so we know when.
I am listed *spouse is listed* as the "owner" in the whois lookup for racerxmoto.com, superb is listed as the registrar....anyway, since posting with everyone's help and advice I have managed to get the domain unlocked and the nameservers changed. Thanks so much for everyone's help and advice. I have learned and am learning so much from everyone here. Thanks to all,
Nikki
William 9, we must think a like, love your profile pic! Mine is of my baby, Betty! Cute aint she? Well maybe so ugly she is cute!
__________________ !!!Happy 2006 to ALL!!!
May this be the year of many wonderful Blessings!!!
"Blessed are the flexible, for they shall Not Break!"
Keep MS in your prayers, R&R going Strong, MS is getting back in BIZ (2 casinos+few hotels+restaurants now up & going! WooHoo!!!
Superb's most likely, if not definitely, an enom reseller:
Assuming what I see in the domain's whois is correct, the sooner you transfer
your domain to an actual registrar, the better. There is actually one exception
to the "rule", but many will agree it's better to have it with a registrar.
Ok, so what do I do at this point? Heck, I thought I was done...obviously not. I have gotten my to the cp for the domain name, I have changed the status to unlocked and I just changed the nameservers to the new server I have...so what must I do now?
Assuming what I see in the domain's whois is correct, the sooner you transfer
your domain to an actual registrar, the better*****how do I do this dave? This is what got me confused, not a hard thing to do to me...lol...so what steps do I take now other than what I have done thus far?
Thanks again for all the help,
Nikki
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It's actually your choice as to whether to let superb (or rather its registrar
partner, enom) continue managing your domain while your website hosting is
being done by another party. But there are a few reasons why it's preferable
to have your domain with a registrar:
1. Registrars' legal agreements with their resellers force them to refer all end-
users of domain names to their resellers first before they step in.
2. If the reseller is unable or unwilling to help, the registrar may or may not
have a mechanism to resolve it. (although they should in the first place...)
3. By dealing with a registrar instead of a reseller, you cut down the amount
of time and effort wasted on whom to contact for domain management.
4. If (knock on wood) something happens to your domain name, your registrar
is in a better position to resolve it since they've got the hardware and the
expertise resellers don't really have.
Like everything else there are exceptions. I registered 2 domains here last
March, but it's because I'm familiar with this forum and I trust its administrator
and mods.
Unfortunately, there are so many registrars out there it's hard to decide. But
to help you decide better, read the registrar reviews here.
nikaian Yea, your baby is really really ugly cute! My avatar is a random big dog picture from the park! First let me brush off some dog hair, there, I have additional dog pics posted on the underconstruction: w w w. D o g g y . I n f o.
Wow, sorry to hear about your whole idea. Glad you got it sorted out!
Are you trying to transfer your domain name (not your hosting) to another registrar such as GoDaddy? As long as the administrative contact e-mail address is in the WHOIS is correct you can go to any registrar site and choose the "transfer" option and you should just receive some e-mail requests that you have to click the link for and authorize the transfer.
Actually I think it is more ok to buy from a registrar. As for a web hosting company, that should be fine too as long as it is a professional and reputable company, if it is a $1.95 fly-by-night amateur company then that often does become an issue.
RealTechTalk-Yes, I believe I am going to transfer my domain name to a registrar, that way I have more control and not having to go through a middle man to get any thing accomplished.
William 9- I'll have to check the doggy site out!
Dweeb- The reason I say not to go with a web hosting co. for your dn is because from my personal experience, if you end up having problems with the host, as I did, and you cancel the service, you may end up on a goose chase to find out where your domain was registered. Then if the need arises to have it transfered, the server name changed, or status, you may end up having to go through the "fired" hosting co. to get the necessary information to do that. It can just create potential problems if you ever decide to quit using the host who registered your domain.
Thanks again for all your advice and help everyone!
Nikki
__________________ !!!Happy 2006 to ALL!!!
May this be the year of many wonderful Blessings!!!
"Blessed are the flexible, for they shall Not Break!"
Keep MS in your prayers, R&R going Strong, MS is getting back in BIZ (2 casinos+few hotels+restaurants now up & going! WooHoo!!!
1. I have heard of people losing a domain with a payment dispute over hosting services. If you withhold payment for hosting, they can hold your domain hostage sometimes because they are the same account. The oppposite, although not as likely, could also happen, if the domain expires and they drop your hosted data.
2. Hosting companies specialize in that service. Some sell domains as resellers, but primarily, they attempt to keep your site up and running. Some registrars actually farm out the hosting putting you another level of support away.
3. Hosting companies are almost always resellers and more often than not will charge higher prices. Some may also not allow you to control DNS or other aspects when hosted with them.
4. Some hosting companies retain admistrative control of your domain. If they wanted, they could lock you out for whateve reason they wished.
5. Domain registrars usually have more limited hosting packages and only strive for the quick & easy sale. You're less likely to find custom specs, personal account managers, or dedicated or managed servers for upgrading.
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