Estibot/Valuate values for domain names?

KCsGreat · 01-02-2012, 05:05 PM

I have seen where people say take the estimations with a grain of salt, I have also read that those two are the closest to accurate estimations. So which is it? If i have domains and they are worth something according to their estimates, are these end user prices, marketplaces, or like what I would ask from flippers. Just trying to get an idea of how to price domains without paying for an appraisal.

notlikeyou · 01-02-2012, 06:08 PM

Use those autoappraisal tools as just that, a tool to help you price your own domains. One of the most useful things (for me was) looking at sales data. Once you use all the tools at your disposal and have looked at the comparable sales of other domains then you will get a good idea of what it's worth.

Personally I would never pay for an appraisal, typically they are a waste of money. Just look at some of the appraisals on tdnam and you will quickly see they are worthless.

Take your time comb over sales data, view auction threads, look at what is selling to whom and why.

KCsGreat · 01-02-2012, 07:13 PM

Thank you. Seems near impossible to get answers here sometimes. I appreciate it.

stub · 01-02-2012, 08:29 PM

To answer your question. Valuate uses Estibot's engine, so they will provide the same results. Estibot states they are quoting motivated end-user buyer pricing.

I forget which site it was, but quite recently Estibot rated a domain at $300. The seller Asked $5000 and got $3000. Now Estibot's value is $3,000. so, in this case it's accurate to 100%. But that's not to say the buyer won't turn around in 2 months and sell it for $5000.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/domain-newbies/742171-estibot-valuate-values-for-domain-names.html

In other cases, say when keywords are reversed (and don't mean much), Estibot is sometimes rating the keywords rather than the order, and can greatly over-estimate the domain value.

These are both examples of how any automated bot can get values askew. Which is why it's always preferable to do some research, at least at NameBio for prices of other recently sold domains.

sdsinc · 01-03-2012, 03:36 AM

The only valid appraisals in my book are actual sales.

Even if you get a human (not automated) appraisal that is researched, well though out and realistic, based on comparable sales etc... that doesn't mean somebody will want to buy your domain. It's just speculation. It won't pay the bills.

If you're looking to resell domains, I think it would be good to focus on an industry you're familiar with. Also keep in mind that the vast majority of domains will never sell. You can increase the odds by raising the bar high and acquiring quality domains only. The goal is to own domains that somebody else would want.

Mark Talks · 01-10-2012, 11:53 PM

Thank you for the posts in this thread. I was actually just coming to post a thread asking how accurate estibot was etc. This now gives me the info I was seeking. Thank you

biggie · 01-11-2012, 07:51 AM

Originally Posted by Mark Talks

I was actually just coming to post a thread asking how accurate estibot was etc.

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=742171

ask yourself:

how accurate are daily horoscopes?

yeah, once in a while they ring a bell...but how often?

and yet folks read them everday

do you believe

Sparhawke · 01-11-2012, 05:43 PM

Originally Posted by stub

To answer your question. Valuate uses Estibot's engine, so they will provide the same results. Estibot states they are quoting motivated end-user buyer pricing.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=742171

I forget which site it was, but quite recently Estibot rated a domain at $300. The seller Asked $5000 and got $3000. Now Estibot's value is $3,000. so, in this case it's accurate to 100%. But that's not to say the buyer won't turn around in 2 months and sell it for $5000.

In other cases, say when keywords are reversed (and don't mean much), Estibot is sometimes rating the keywords rather than the order, and can greatly over-estimate the domain value.

These are both examples of how any automated bot can get values askew. Which is why it's always preferable to do some research, at least at NameBio for prices of other recently sold domains.

I got stung by that in the early days when I first stumbled onto the stage, it claimed a domain had a value of thousands and it was effectively worthless.

stub · 01-13-2012, 02:25 PM

With all of it's faults, I actually like estibot as a tool.

01-02-2012, 05:05 PM	THREAD STARTER #1 (permalink)
KCsGreat New Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 20	Estibot/Valuate values for domain names? I have seen where people say take the estimations with a grain of salt, I have also read that those two are the closest to accurate estimations. So which is it? If i have domains and they are worth something according to their estimates, are these end user prices, marketplaces, or like what I would ask from flippers. Just trying to get an idea of how to price domains without paying for an appraisal.

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notlikeyou Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: midwest Posts: 1,385	Use those autoappraisal tools as just that, a tool to help you price your own domains. One of the most useful things (for me was) looking at sales data. Once you use all the tools at your disposal and have looked at the comparable sales of other domains then you will get a good idea of what it's worth. Personally I would never pay for an appraisal, typically they are a waste of money. Just look at some of the appraisals on tdnam and you will quickly see they are worthless. Take your time comb over sales data, view auction threads, look at what is selling to whom and why. __________________ DriverSalary.com PopularAppetizers.com need a LLLL.com make an offer

01-02-2012, 08:29 PM	#4 (permalink)
stub NamePros Expert Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 7,313	To answer your question. Valuate uses Estibot's engine, so they will provide the same results. Estibot states they are quoting motivated end-user buyer pricing. I forget which site it was, but quite recently Estibot rated a domain at $300. The seller Asked $5000 and got $3000. Now Estibot's value is $3,000. so, in this case it's accurate to 100%. But that's not to say the buyer won't turn around in 2 months and sell it for $5000. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/domain-newbies/742171-estibot-valuate-values-for-domain-names.html In other cases, say when keywords are reversed (and don't mean much), Estibot is sometimes rating the keywords rather than the order, and can greatly over-estimate the domain value. These are both examples of how any automated bot can get values askew. Which is why it's always preferable to do some research, at least at NameBio for prices of other recently sold domains. __________________ COMDots - DNDots - StubDomains - WebmasterUnlimited - DNSPortfolio Last edited by stub; 01-03-2012 at 03:18 AM.

01-03-2012, 03:36 AM	#5 (permalink)
sdsinc Domains my Dominion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Web 1.0 Posts: 9,960	The only valid appraisals in my book are actual sales. Even if you get a human (not automated) appraisal that is researched, well though out and realistic, based on comparable sales etc... that doesn't mean somebody will want to buy your domain. It's just speculation. It won't pay the bills. If you're looking to resell domains, I think it would be good to focus on an industry you're familiar with. Also keep in mind that the vast majority of domains will never sell. You can increase the odds by raising the bar high and acquiring quality domains only. The goal is to own domains that somebody else would want. __________________ NameNewsletter.com - free lists of available domain names ZoneFiles.net (beta) - ccTLD and gTLD droplists

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stub NamePros Expert Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 7,313	With all of it's faults, I actually like estibot as a tool. __________________ COMDots - DNDots - StubDomains - WebmasterUnlimited - DNSPortfolio

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KCsGreat New Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 20	Thank you. Seems near impossible to get answers here sometimes. I appreciate it.

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Mark Talks NamePros Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 59	Thank you for the posts in this thread. I was actually just coming to post a thread asking how accurate estibot was etc. This now gives me the info I was seeking. Thank you

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