Should I invest in. biz, .us or .cc, .tv extension?

Jagriya · 01-02-2012, 02:39 AM

Hi Guys,

Please tell me if it is worth to invest in .biz, .us or .cc extensions?

I have come across some good keyword domains but afraid to invest in these domains.

sdsinc · 01-02-2012, 04:05 AM

IMO these extensions hardly qualify as 'investments'.
Investments should have liquidity . Stuff that is not in demand is not liquid. It may be more a liability than an asset.

As always, look at reported sales, see which extensions and types of domains do sell and how often.
You need to do your homework, also keep in mind that the people pumping a particular TLD may have a vested interest or simply be subjective.

You're saying 'I have come across some good keyword domains', I guess you are talking about domain names that are available. If they are still available, you need to ask yourself why.
I think that in 2012 it's very difficult to make good money on regfee domains. You need to look to the aftermarket/drops, and allocate your budget toward domains that are already worth something today, not in some remote and unlikely future. Raise the bar high enough: solid domains, solid extensions. Fewer domains but high-quality.
But maybe I misunderstood your actual intentions

Jagriya · 01-02-2012, 05:35 AM

Originally Posted by sdsinc

But maybe I misunderstood your actual intentions

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/domain-newbies/742112-should-i-invest-biz-us-cc.html

Thanks. :-)

notlikeyou · 01-02-2012, 07:49 AM

Better question is do you have a firm grasp of what makes a domain valuable? (No offense)
Who will you sell to?
Why are these "good keyword domains" still available?

IMHO stick with .COM until you are profitable.

Good Luck

Jagriya · 01-02-2012, 08:54 AM

Originally Posted by notlikeyou

Better question is do you have a firm grasp of what makes a domain valuable? (No offense)
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=742112
Who will you sell to?
Why are these "good keyword domains" still available?

IMHO stick with .COM until you are profitable.

Good Luck

Frankly speaking, I am total a newbie in this field. Its just been a month when I have come to know about this domaining thing. So just want to make sure I don't invest in crap.

Please also tell me, do you ever register hyphenate domains? If they show high exact searches, high CPC and also good appraisal value (through estibot etc. )??

Jawed · 01-02-2012, 10:46 AM

Stay away from hyphenated domains unless you have some plan to develop them. For investment purposes they are worthless unless they are exceptionally good keywords. You admit you are new in this field, so it's very risky for you to invest in such names.

sdsinc · 01-02-2012, 11:41 AM

And while you are it, avoid the appraisal tools.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=742112
I know I repeat myself all the time, but automated appraisals are worthless.

A bot cannot teach you what makes a domain valuable

You need to be your own appraiser.

Search volume, CPC, etc: this is some of the data relevant for a domain that you would develop. No guarantee it would get traffic or buyers. But if the name doesn't look good, nobody will want it.

So, to repeat myself: observe the market, analyze the reported sales, and try to get a feel for what kind of names do sell. Don't jump in too fast because it's too easy to lose money with domains, especially when you're starting out.

MicroGuy · 01-02-2012, 11:42 AM

Originally Posted by sdsinc

IMO these extensions hardly qualify as 'investments'. Investments should have liquidity.

The best, most concise, and wisest statement I've ever read on these forums. IMO.

stub · 01-02-2012, 08:39 PM

Stay away from .biz, .us, .cc and hyphenated domains. Only invest in .com. Depending on how much you have to spend, LLL.com (might be considered investment grade) and some LLLL.com have value (but hard to find an end-user), but avoid all the non-premium letters of the alphabet. My best luck have been with keywordkeyword.com domains, but it's easy to get it wrong, and I'd say keep under 12 characters in length (max). Nothing is easy.

Jagriya · 01-03-2012, 01:14 AM

What about .net and .org?

What exactly I want to ask is there are few names for which either one extension is developed out of .com, .net and .org and one is parked and one unregistered. It shows good exact search, high CPC, quality name but only doubt which comes to my mind is how come one extension is parked undeveloped?

In that case should I go for these domains and take a risk as they have the potential to be sold, or simply search for something else?

stub · 01-03-2012, 03:17 AM

Stick with .com. Net doesn't have anything going for it except as a poor mans .com (I know, extreme, but you get my drift). There is some profit in org, if it's a blog, health, political domain, but I'd always prefer to own the .com. Stick with .com. You could lose a lot of money investing in .net or .org, as a newbie.

slumdog · 01-03-2012, 08:25 AM

if you get sports.biz for $xxx-low $xxxx good investment,
if you get a good bargain on a premium/superpremium .biz/tv ,maybe good investment,

reggin available names in these ext is a waste of time $$

0.02

defaultuser · 01-03-2012, 08:48 AM

Originally Posted by slumdog

reggin available names in these ext is a waste of time $$

Not really, not that anyone wants the competition

slumdog · 01-03-2012, 09:26 AM

double team for a sale maybe

Originally Posted by defaultuser

Not really, not that anyone wants the competition

painperdu · 01-13-2012, 04:52 AM

These domains have value with names that closely align with what they stand for. For example, 'patriot.us' may be worth as much if not more than 'patriot.com'. It just reaches a deeper part of the mind and this is good for promotions and advertising. 'Flags.us' is another such that comes to mind.

junosama · 01-18-2012, 03:25 PM

No, no and no. .com or bust is my motto, but there are some worthy .net and .org domains. Anything else is not a good investment if you ask me. People always want .com and will always want.com

tekz999 · 01-18-2012, 04:50 PM

Listen with the veteran.

I just have one word to tell you: .biz

Bye.

rngrdanny22 · 01-18-2012, 04:55 PM

I do agree with staying away for unregged names, but what do you guys think about CC, LL, NN, NNN names in these same extensions the OP is talking about?

MicroGuy · 01-18-2012, 06:42 PM

Originally Posted by rngrdanny22

I do agree with staying away for unregged names, but what do you guys think about CC, LL, NN, NNN names in these same extensions the OP is talking about?

Stay strong, stay Com. IMO.

***ritedomains*** · 01-19-2012, 01:23 PM

.Biz should be avoided unless You have brand protection in mind, Or a clear business development plan.. The best advice is to go with .com when ever possible

RegFee · 01-19-2012, 02:13 PM

cheapautoinsurance.biz $1,000 2012-01-10 sedo.com
find.biz $9,000 2011-08-23 sedo.com

I don't know if I'd call it completely worthless. The seller of cheapautoinsurance.biz probably hand registered it originally. Not a bad flip if they did. I also don't know why some .com's sell for so much when they look worthless.

I don't see a problem with diversifying. If you have a $300 budget, do you spend it on one LLLL.com or register 30 names and try to flip them?

av1atic · 01-19-2012, 02:42 PM

I've got two .biz domains: Both pretty high exact search volume/popular keywords and very relevant to the extension--only reason I grabbed them.

Personally wouldn't bother with any of the other ext.

stub · 01-20-2012, 04:32 AM

Personally, I think they are all worthless part from .com although as I said previously, there are some .orgs that do well providing you get the niche correct.

Originally Posted by RegFee

cheapautoinsurance.biz $1,000 2012-01-10 sedo.com
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=742112
find.biz $9,000 2011-08-23 sedo.com

If you think you can guess which domains will sell for $XXXX, then be my guest and buy/register other extensions. You might register 100,000 .biz domains (all good quality) before you sell a biz domain for $XXXX. Or any other extension.

alien51 · 01-21-2012, 02:43 AM

Just because some .BIZ sold for a hefty sum, doesn't justify the statistics that your chance to have a similar sale is probably 1-in-200 million.

01-02-2012, 02:39 AM	THREAD STARTER #1 (permalink)
Jagriya NamePros Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 31	Should I invest in. biz, .us or .cc, .tv extension? Hi Guys, Please tell me if it is worth to invest in .biz, .us or .cc extensions? I have come across some good keyword domains but afraid to invest in these domains.

01-02-2012, 04:05 AM	#2 (permalink)
sdsinc Domains my Dominion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Web 1.0 Posts: 9,960	IMO these extensions hardly qualify as 'investments'. Investments should have liquidity . Stuff that is not in demand is not liquid. It may be more a liability than an asset. As always, look at reported sales, see which extensions and types of domains do sell and how often. You need to do your homework, also keep in mind that the people pumping a particular TLD may have a vested interest or simply be subjective. You're saying 'I have come across some good keyword domains', I guess you are talking about domain names that are available. If they are still available, you need to ask yourself why. I think that in 2012 it's very difficult to make good money on regfee domains. You need to look to the aftermarket/drops, and allocate your budget toward domains that are already worth something today, not in some remote and unlikely future. Raise the bar high enough: solid domains, solid extensions. Fewer domains but high-quality. But maybe I misunderstood your actual intentions __________________ NameNewsletter.com - free lists of available domain names ZoneFiles.net (beta) - ccTLD and gTLD droplists

01-02-2012, 07:49 AM	#4 (permalink)
notlikeyou Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: midwest Posts: 1,385	Better question is do you have a firm grasp of what makes a domain valuable? (No offense) Who will you sell to? Why are these "good keyword domains" still available? IMHO stick with .COM until you are profitable. Good Luck __________________ DriverSalary.com PopularAppetizers.com need a LLLL.com make an offer

01-02-2012, 10:46 AM	#6 (permalink)
Jawed Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: TradeDirectory.com Posts: 2,134 Follow @TradeDirectory	Stay away from hyphenated domains unless you have some plan to develop them. For investment purposes they are worthless unless they are exceptionally good keywords. You admit you are new in this field, so it's very risky for you to invest in such names. __________________ Trade Shows

01-02-2012, 11:41 AM	#7 (permalink)
sdsinc Domains my Dominion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Web 1.0 Posts: 9,960	And while you are it, avoid the appraisal tools. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=742112 I know I repeat myself all the time, but automated appraisals are worthless. A bot cannot teach you what makes a domain valuable You need to be your own appraiser. Search volume, CPC, etc: this is some of the data relevant for a domain that you would develop. No guarantee it would get traffic or buyers. But if the name doesn't look good, nobody will want it. So, to repeat myself: observe the market, analyze the reported sales, and try to get a feel for what kind of names do sell. Don't jump in too fast because it's too easy to lose money with domains, especially when you're starting out. __________________ NameNewsletter.com - free lists of available domain names ZoneFiles.net (beta) - ccTLD and gTLD droplists

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01-02-2012, 08:39 PM	#9 (permalink)
stub NamePros Expert Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 7,313	Stay away from .biz, .us, .cc and hyphenated domains. Only invest in .com. Depending on how much you have to spend, LLL.com (might be considered investment grade) and some LLLL.com have value (but hard to find an end-user), but avoid all the non-premium letters of the alphabet. My best luck have been with keywordkeyword.com domains, but it's easy to get it wrong, and I'd say keep under 12 characters in length (max). Nothing is easy. __________________ COMDots - DNDots - StubDomains - WebmasterUnlimited - DNSPortfolio

01-03-2012, 01:14 AM	THREAD STARTER #10 (permalink)
Jagriya NamePros Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 31	What about .net and .org? What exactly I want to ask is there are few names for which either one extension is developed out of .com, .net and .org and one is parked and one unregistered. It shows good exact search, high CPC, quality name but only doubt which comes to my mind is how come one extension is parked undeveloped? In that case should I go for these domains and take a risk as they have the potential to be sold, or simply search for something else?

01-03-2012, 03:17 AM	#11 (permalink)
stub NamePros Expert Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 7,313	Stick with .com. Net doesn't have anything going for it except as a poor mans .com (I know, extreme, but you get my drift). There is some profit in org, if it's a blog, health, political domain, but I'd always prefer to own the .com. Stick with .com. You could lose a lot of money investing in .net or .org, as a newbie. __________________ COMDots - DNDots - StubDomains - WebmasterUnlimited - DNSPortfolio

01-03-2012, 08:25 AM	#12 (permalink)
slumdog NamePros Regular Join Date: May 2009 Location: http://www.after.co.in Posts: 724 Follow @tintin_13	if you get sports.biz for $xxx-low $xxxx good investment, if you get a good bargain on a premium/superpremium .biz/tv ,maybe good investment, reggin available names in these ext is a waste of time $$ 0.02 __________________ he.rs fondle.me eHO.TEL you buy cerebralpalsy.co.in you support

01-13-2012, 04:52 AM	#15 (permalink)
painperdu NamePros Regular Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Louisiana, USA Posts: 661	These domains have value with names that closely align with what they stand for. For example, 'patriot.us' may be worth as much if not more than 'patriot.com'. It just reaches a deeper part of the mind and this is good for promotions and advertising. 'Flags.us' is another such that comes to mind. __________________ dotbob.com -Cheap Domain Name Registrations/Unlimited Web Hosting Plan $5.98/month

01-18-2012, 03:25 PM	#16 (permalink)
junosama NamePros Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 30	No, no and no. .com or bust is my motto, but there are some worthy .net and .org domains. Anything else is not a good investment if you ask me. People always want .com and will always want.com

01-18-2012, 04:50 PM	#17 (permalink)
tekz999 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 3,875	Listen with the veteran. I just have one word to tell you: .biz Bye. __________________ $60 Three Premium Letters + Numbers + Keywords .BIZ/.US lah.biz+ 10+ Years Domains! PanelRoom.com+ $60

01-18-2012, 04:55 PM	#18 (permalink)
rngrdanny22 NamePros Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 154	I do agree with staying away for unregged names, but what do you guys think about CC, LL, NN, NNN names in these same extensions the OP is talking about? __________________ Currently buying NNN.us, NNN.info, and forum.com domains! PM me if you have them for sale!

01-19-2012, 01:23 PM	#20 (permalink)
*ritedomains* Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Cape Breton Posts: 1,161 Follow @ritedomains	.Biz should be avoided unless You have brand protection in mind, Or a clear business development plan.. The best advice is to go with .com when ever possible __________________ VIDEOAPPS.BIZ @ Bido MUSICAPPS.BIZ @ Bido LOVEABLE.INFO @ BIDO

01-19-2012, 02:13 PM	#21 (permalink)
RegFee DNOA Certified Seller Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Arizona Posts: 3,666	cheapautoinsurance.biz $1,000 2012-01-10 sedo.com find.biz $9,000 2011-08-23 sedo.com I don't know if I'd call it completely worthless. The seller of cheapautoinsurance.biz probably hand registered it originally. Not a bad flip if they did. I also don't know why some .com's sell for so much when they look worthless. I don't see a problem with diversifying. If you have a $300 budget, do you spend it on one LLLL.com or register 30 names and try to flip them? __________________ Nombrex.com

01-19-2012, 02:42 PM	#22 (permalink)
av1atic NamePros Regular Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 287	I've got two .biz domains: Both pretty high exact search volume/popular keywords and very relevant to the extension--only reason I grabbed them. Personally wouldn't bother with any of the other ext. __________________ Some of the Internets top keywords: Credit -Games -Gas -Toys - Fund Last edited by av1atic; 01-19-2012 at 02:46 PM.

01-21-2012, 02:43 AM	#24 (permalink)
alien51 NamePros Regular Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Sector 7G, Alpha Centauri Posts: 844	Just because some .BIZ sold for a hefty sum, doesn't justify the statistics that your chance to have a similar sale is probably 1-in-200 million.

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