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JagG · 03-19-2009, 02:37 PM

Updated Thread .Br.com Is Not A Brazil ccTLD THIS IS A WARNING

Hi

Anyone esle have a .Br.com

I only have have 4

Brazil.br.com
Carnival.br.com
Flight.br.com
Flights.br.com

Any Thoughts??

Originally Posted by GILSAN

I've allways heard of .com. br

Are you buying it as a Brazilian ccTLD? If you are then you may be being taken for a ride.

http://meiobit.pop.com.br/meio-bit/i...dominios-brcom

http://macmagazine.com.br/blog/2008/...za-das-brabas/

These 2 links above (in Portuguese) basically say that

it's a scam. Aparently it sells for about 7-8 times the price of the .com.br domains.

Here's the explanation of how the scam works; They (CentralNic Ltd from the UK) registered the domain br.com and now are selling sub-domains, saying that this is the latest market trend, and requiring less documentation. As you can imagine you will not have full control of your domain.

newms · 03-19-2009, 03:16 PM

Isnt the extension .com.br?

JagG · 03-19-2009, 03:23 PM

Nope It's Definitely .br.com

I got the names about 4 weeks ago and your the 5th people who has quoted thats the TLd is wrong... Is there someone in this forum that can comfirm what's right please.

Cheers

Jag

samuelhr · 03-19-2009, 03:33 PM

br.com is a domain owned by centralnic, who sell *.countrycode.com. AFAIK It's not a 'real' ccTLD.

MJ · 03-19-2009, 04:57 PM

br.com is not a ccTLD it is a subdomain of www.br.com.

The correct cctld I believe is just simply .br. They might have .com.br too but I have not seen this, only straight .br.

It doesn't mean your domain is worthless... necessarily.. to the right person though.

JagG · 03-19-2009, 04:59 PM

Originally Posted by samuelhr

br.com is a domain owned by centralnic, who sell *.countrycode.com. AFAIK It's not a 'real' ccTLD.

Take a look at this page >> http://www.answerable.com/domain.php

look in Other Extensions:

There I found .Br.com

And read on Wikipedia that it's a Brazil tld >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.br

GILSAN · 03-19-2009, 05:43 PM

I've allways heard of .com. br

Are you buying it as a Brazilian ccTLD? If you are then you may be being taken for a ride.

http://meiobit.pop.com.br/meio-bit/i...dominios-brcom

http://macmagazine.com.br/blog/2008/...za-das-brabas/

These 2 links above (in Portuguese) basically say that

it's a scam. Aparently it sells for about 7-8 times the price of the .com.br domains.

Here's the explanation of how the scam works; They (CentralNic Ltd from the UK) registered the domain br.com and now are selling sub-domains, saying that this is the latest market trend, and requiring less documentation. As you can imagine you will not have full control of your domain.

As you can see your domains are actually sub-domains of the domain .br.com

Brazil.br.com
Carnival.br.com
Flight.br.com
Flights.br.com

Quite easy to get some people off guard. As an example lets look at the domain del.icio.us

It was registered as the domain icio.us and then they created a sub-domain, thus becoming the very well known and creatively named del.icio.us

On the second link they give an example of the domain www.tuppi.br.com which was registered by CentralNic Ltd from the UK and Administered by Network Solutions from the US.

As a matter of curiosity, were those domains fairly expensive?

JagG · 03-19-2009, 06:01 PM

Originally Posted by GILSAN

As a matter of curiosity, were those domains fairly expensive?

$159.96 Total

A kick up the backside

GILSAN · 03-19-2009, 06:13 PM

Originally Posted by JagG

$159.96 Total

A kick up the backside

$40.00 per domain. Good thing you only bought 4 domains. You can still use them , BUT as you can already imagine they could pull the rug from under your feet at any time and then your backside will really hurt.

Perhaps we could put an alert out here at NamePros about this SCAM.

JagG · 03-19-2009, 09:12 PM

Originally Posted by GILSAN

Perhaps we could put an alert out here at NamePros about this SCAM.

Thanks For the Info... Thread is Now Updated

Could I get a Refund??? or just leave them parked?? and see how it goes???

Brazil.br.com = Parked under my own site
Carnival.br.com = parked sedo
Flight.br.com = parked sedo
Flights.br.com = parked sedo

Please Advice

samuelhr · 03-20-2009, 05:18 AM

Try asking for a refund based upon the fact you were mislead?

Dean · 03-21-2009, 03:22 AM

I see people keep using the word "scam", this is not a scam. You should do more research before registering domains. Sub domains like this are practically worthless.

JagG · 03-21-2009, 11:13 AM

Originally Posted by Dean

I see people keep using the word "scam", this is not a scam. You should do more research before registering domains. Sub domains like this are practically worthless.

Hello

I did some research i.e http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.br

Never mind cant get a refund either.

samuelhr · 03-21-2009, 12:25 PM

Originally Posted by JagG

Hello

I did some research i.e http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.br

Obviously not enough, nowhere does it mentioned .br.com being legit, also surely the fact that every single one there ends in .br, not .com would be a dead giveaway?

JagG · 03-21-2009, 12:43 PM

another mistake to learn from....

GILSAN · 03-21-2009, 08:23 PM

Look at what Centralnic are selling. Has anyone ever heard of .us.com?

yourname.eu.com - European Union
yourname.us.com - United States
yourname.gb.com - Great Britain
yourname.uk.com - Great Britain
yourname.de.com - Germany
yourname.ru.com - Russia

Check this link; https://www.centralnic.com/names/domains
As you can see CentralNic has a list of about 25 countries including the .la domain which is allocated to Laos, but the registrar site Centralnic claims it to be associated with the city of Los Angeles!

What's amazing is how much they are charging for these virtually worthless sub-domains

101domains.com and a number of other registrars are also selling these types of sub-domains.

If this is not a scam, then what is the correct term?

Dean · 03-21-2009, 08:40 PM

Originally Posted by GILSAN

Look at what Centralnic are selling. Has anyone ever heard of .us.com?

yourname.eu.com - European Union
yourname.us.com - United States
yourname.gb.com - Great Britain
yourname.uk.com - Great Britain
yourname.de.com - Germany
yourname.ru.com - Russia

Check this link; https://www.centralnic.com/names/domains
As you can see CentralNic has a list of about 25 countries including the .la domain which is allocated to Laos, but the registrar site Centralnic claims it to be associated with the city of Los Angeles!

What's amazing is how much they are charging for these virtually worthless sub-domains

101domains.com and a number of other registrars are also selling these types of sub-domains.

If this is not a scam, then what is the correct term?

Just look to the right of the page you linked.

Quote:

About Our Domains

CentralNic's domains provide an alternative to the existing Top Level Domains (TLDs) and Country Code Top Level Domains (ccTLDs), allowing the creation of a simultaneously local and global Internet Identity.

The .la one is dodgy but I dont see how you could call these sub domain ones scams. Its not like they are claiming its the ccTLD for the country, they even say its an alternative to the ccTLD.

.tv · 03-22-2009, 12:24 AM

http://i44.tinypic.com/ieh74w.gif

.br registry doesn't allow registrations in second level, like yourname.br

These are the official second level names under .br

* ADM.BR - Administrators
* ADV.BR - Lawyers
* AGR.BR - Agriculture-related companies and/or websites
* AM.BR - AM radio companies, licenced by the Brazilian Communications Ministry
* ARQ.BR - Architecture
* ART.BR - Art: music, folklore, etc.
* ATO.BR - Actors
* B.BR - Exclusively for bancary environiment use (online banking, etc).
* BIO.BR - Biologists
* BLOG.BR - Blogs
* BMD.BR - Biomedics
* CIM.BR - Brokers
* CNG.BR - Scenographers
* CNT.BR - Accountants
* COM.BR - Commercial websites in general
* COOP.BR - Cooperatives
* ECN.BR - Economy
* EDU.BR - Higher education institutions
* ENG.BR - Engineers
* ESP.BR - Sports
* ETC.BR - Entities that do not fit in previous categories
* ETI.BR - I.T. Specialists
* FAR.BR - Pharmacies and drugstores
* FLOG.BR - Photologs
* FM.BR - FM radio companies, licenced by the Brazilian Communications Ministry
* FND.BR - Phonoaudiologists
* FOT.BR - Photographers
* FST.BR - Physiotherapists
* G12.BR - K12 education institutions
* GGF.BR - Geographers
* GOV.BR - Government entities
* IMB.BR - Real estate
* IND.BR - Industries
* INF.BR - Media and information
* JOR.BR - Journalists
* JUS.BR - Brazilian Judiciary Branch of the State.
* LEL.BR - Auctioneers
* MAT.BR - Mathematicians and Statisticians
* MED.BR - Medics
* MIL.BR - Brazilian Armed Forces
* MUS.BR - Musicians
* NET.BR - Exclusively for providers of physical communication means, legally habilitated for the prestation of public telecommunication services
* NOM.BR - People
* NOT.BR - Notaries
* NTR.BR - Nutritionists
* ODO.BR - Dentists
* ORG.BR - Non-profit non-governmental entities
* PPG.BR - Publicity specialists and Marketeers
* PRO.BR - Teachers
* PSC.BR - Psychologists
* PSI.BR - Online service providers
* QSL.BR - Radio amateurs
* REC.BR - Recreational activities, entertainment, leisure, games, etc.
* SLG.BR - Sociologists
* SRV.BR - Services providers
* TMP.BR - Temporary events, such as fairs and exhibitions
* TRD.BR - Translators
* TUR.BR - Tourism
* TV.BR - Sound and image broadcasters, licenced by the Brazilian Communications Ministry
* VET.BR - Veterinarians
* VLOG.BR - Videologs
* WIKI.BR - Wikis
* ZLG.BR - Zoologists

JagG · 03-22-2009, 12:55 AM

Thank you For Last post

What shall I do??

.tv · 03-22-2009, 01:56 AM

Originally Posted by JagG

Thank you For Last post

What shall I do??

Find a potential buyer who may be interested in generics, aware of the sub-domain issues.

You could develop niche websites and promote them with proper SEO. Place affiliate links & banners and earn commissions from Traffic you generate.

Again, note that these are all subdomains, and can vanish at anytime when br.com (Central NIC) goes out of business.

All the best!

JagG · 03-22-2009, 10:38 PM

Originally Posted by .tv

Find a potential buyer who may be interested in generics, aware of the sub-domain issues.

You could develop niche websites and promote them with proper SEO. Place affiliate links & banners and earn commissions from Traffic you generate.

Again, note that these are all subdomains, and can vanish at anytime when br.com (Central NIC) goes out of business.

All the best!

Thanks For The Advice... Nice Pic by the way

DiggleNamer · 08-17-2009, 02:49 AM

brazil.com $500,000 i would say brazil.br.com is a well worth $40, bit i guess nobody would ever spend the time and money on developing it because of the risk that Central Nic would fold/reclaim the name (can they reclaim names?)

sashas · 08-17-2009, 04:52 AM

JagG, your avatar is easily the most amusing on NP!

**firefly** · 08-17-2009, 05:21 AM

Originally Posted by sashas

JagG, your avatar is easily the most amusing on NP!

Or the most annoying depending on your opinion. Another member has had that avatar for years and it drives me to distraction.

Dean is right though. You should do more research before you plunk your hard earned cash down for anything.

Lesson learned I guess. Still an expensive way to learn it.

joezeppy · 08-17-2009, 11:40 AM

Hi All,

Somehow I missed this thread. I've been working for CentralNic since 2001. We've been selling our sub-domains since 1995. It's not a scam. I hope you'll allow me to make our case here...

When you register a domain name, you are given certain rights & abilities...

You can create, issue, and use email addresses on your domain
You can create, issue, and use sub-domains
You can create and place content...
amongst other things.

So just as ISPs, hosting companies, and domain holders of all sorts (including many members here) issue and/or sell email addresses on their domains for others to use, CentralNic sells sub-domains.

Companies like AOL, Earthlink, & Google have issued millions of email addresses on their domains. Hosting companies have issued sub-domains since the beginning of the Internet, some for a fee and some free. Issuing sub-domains is really no different than issuing email addresses, just less taken advantage of by most companies.

You can do the same on your domains if there is any demand. In our case there has been a demand and we've taken advantage of it since 1995. Nothing has ever been hidden, nor is there anything new here (and nor is it a "scam").

We do not call our domains "ccTLDS" or even "TLDs" and we do not encourage our registrars or resellers to do so either (although sometimes, mistakenly they do). We properly call our domains "two-letter, country-specific domain names" we do properly call them "alternative domain names" and we do properly call them "domain names". There is nothing misleading about that.

Regarding the claims that our domains can vanish if we go out of business. How can anyone defend that? All I can say is that we've demonstrated a commitment to the domain industry since 1995 and have no intentions of changing that. Anyone can go out of business. Even ccTLDs are subject to changes in government, etc. which happened with the .co ccTLD several years ago. So this is a risk that is inherent with many ccTLDs today. Regardless, I'll admit that this is a calculated risk that any registrant takes but our record has been very good and we've always been profitable and have hundreds of thousands of paid registrations and registrants that we are committed to as a business for over 14 years.

Regarding our pricing, it was the strategy we chose. We did not want to be the home to every spammer and phishing site online and did not want to give our sub-domains away. People have responded and given us business. We've watched many "free" sub-domain offers come and go in a blaze of spam and phishing sites. That was not what we wanted for our business. We chose a higher pricing level so that preferably serious buyers registered our names. We didn't want a single buyer to register all of the best domains. It's all just business and we don't twist people's arms.

Regarding value of the domains, we have always tried to be very careful NOT to create any hype or disinformation about our domains. Value is in the eyes of the buyer. We have tracked aftermarket activity and have seen a few of them sell for several thousand dollars in the aftermarket and we think their acceptance is growing. But we've never marketed them as "traffic" or "investment" type domains.

They are what they are; no more and no less. We provide an easy-to-remember alternative to the others. Anyway, I'm happy to answer any questions that people may have here.

03-19-2009, 03:23 PM	#3 (permalink)
JagG NamePros Regular Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 524 0.00 NP$ (Donate)	Nope It's Definitely .br.com I got the names about 4 weeks ago and your the 5th people who has quoted thats the TLd is wrong... Is there someone in this forum that can comfirm what's right please. Cheers Jag __________________ Search Domain By Category

03-19-2009, 04:57 PM	#5 (permalink)
MJ Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Tucson AZ Posts: 1,236 151.37 NP$ (Donate)	br.com is not a ccTLD it is a subdomain of www.br.com. The correct cctld I believe is just simply .br. They might have .com.br too but I have not seen this, only straight .br. It doesn't mean your domain is worthless... necessarily.. to the right person though. __________________ Wii Sucks \| Tempe Computer Repair \| Servers.me \| Tos.me Tucson Dog Training \| Obama.sc <- for sale!

03-19-2009, 05:43 PM	#7 (permalink)
GILSAN Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Madeira Island-Portugal Posts: 2,239 561.00 NP$ (Donate)	I've allways heard of .com. br Are you buying it as a Brazilian ccTLD? If you are then you may be being taken for a ride. http://meiobit.pop.com.br/meio-bit/i...dominios-brcom http://macmagazine.com.br/blog/2008/...za-das-brabas/ These 2 links above (in Portuguese) basically say that it's a scam. Aparently it sells for about 7-8 times the price of the .com.br domains. Here's the explanation of how the scam works; They (CentralNic Ltd from the UK) registered the domain br.com and now are selling sub-domains, saying that this is the latest market trend, and requiring less documentation. As you can imagine you will not have full control of your domain. As you can see your domains are actually sub-domains of the domain .br.com Brazil.br.com Carnival.br.com Flight.br.com Flights.br.com Quite easy to get some people off guard. As an example lets look at the domain del.icio.us It was registered as the domain icio.us and then they created a sub-domain, thus becoming the very well known and creatively named del.icio.us On the second link they give an example of the domain www.tuppi.br.com which was registered by CentralNic Ltd from the UK and Administered by Network Solutions from the US. As a matter of curiosity, were those domains fairly expensive? __________________ Madeira Island - Madeira Wine - Madeira Embroidery - Golf in Madeira - Affiliate Programs Cheap Travel - Discount Cruises - Pet Care - Mortgage Refinance

03-21-2009, 03:22 AM	#12 (permalink)
Dean Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Melbourne Posts: 1,688 133.05 NP$ (Donate)	I see people keep using the word "scam", this is not a scam. You should do more research before registering domains. Sub domains like this are practically worthless. __________________ Register Domains Random Generator

03-21-2009, 12:43 PM	#15 (permalink)
JagG NamePros Regular Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 524 0.00 NP$ (Donate)	another mistake to learn from.... __________________ Search Domain By Category

03-19-2009, 03:16 PM	#2 (permalink)
newms NamePros Regular Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 207 65.00 NP$ (Donate)	Isnt the extension .com.br?

03-19-2009, 03:33 PM	#4 (permalink)
samuelhr Account Closed Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Stafford, England Posts: 227 0.00 NP$ (Donate)	br.com is a domain owned by centralnic, who sell *.countrycode.com. AFAIK It's not a 'real' ccTLD.

03-20-2009, 05:18 AM	#11 (permalink)
samuelhr Account Closed Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Stafford, England Posts: 227 0.00 NP$ (Donate)	Try asking for a refund based upon the fact you were mislead?

03-21-2009, 08:23 PM	#16 (permalink)
GILSAN Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Madeira Island-Portugal Posts: 2,239 561.00 NP$ (Donate)	Look at what Centralnic are selling. Has anyone ever heard of .us.com? yourname.eu.com - European Union yourname.us.com - United States yourname.gb.com - Great Britain yourname.uk.com - Great Britain yourname.de.com - Germany yourname.ru.com - Russia Check this link; https://www.centralnic.com/names/domains As you can see CentralNic has a list of about 25 countries including the .la domain which is allocated to Laos, but the registrar site Centralnic claims it to be associated with the city of Los Angeles! What's amazing is how much they are charging for these virtually worthless sub-domains 101domains.com and a number of other registrars are also selling these types of sub-domains. If this is not a scam, then what is the correct term? __________________ Madeira Island - Madeira Wine - Madeira Embroidery - Golf in Madeira - Affiliate Programs Cheap Travel - Discount Cruises - Pet Care - Mortgage Refinance

03-22-2009, 12:24 AM	#18 (permalink)
.tv Fortunes Ahead™ Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: 10°51'3"N 78°41'9"E Posts: 2,196 596.83 NP$ (Donate)	http://i44.tinypic.com/ieh74w.gif .br registry doesn't allow registrations in second level, like yourname.br These are the official second level names under .br * ADM.BR - Administrators * ADV.BR - Lawyers * AGR.BR - Agriculture-related companies and/or websites * AM.BR - AM radio companies, licenced by the Brazilian Communications Ministry * ARQ.BR - Architecture * ART.BR - Art: music, folklore, etc. * ATO.BR - Actors * B.BR - Exclusively for bancary environiment use (online banking, etc). * BIO.BR - Biologists * BLOG.BR - Blogs * BMD.BR - Biomedics * CIM.BR - Brokers * CNG.BR - Scenographers * CNT.BR - Accountants * COM.BR - Commercial websites in general * COOP.BR - Cooperatives * ECN.BR - Economy * EDU.BR - Higher education institutions * ENG.BR - Engineers * ESP.BR - Sports * ETC.BR - Entities that do not fit in previous categories * ETI.BR - I.T. Specialists * FAR.BR - Pharmacies and drugstores * FLOG.BR - Photologs * FM.BR - FM radio companies, licenced by the Brazilian Communications Ministry * FND.BR - Phonoaudiologists * FOT.BR - Photographers * FST.BR - Physiotherapists * G12.BR - K12 education institutions * GGF.BR - Geographers * GOV.BR - Government entities * IMB.BR - Real estate * IND.BR - Industries * INF.BR - Media and information * JOR.BR - Journalists * JUS.BR - Brazilian Judiciary Branch of the State. * LEL.BR - Auctioneers * MAT.BR - Mathematicians and Statisticians * MED.BR - Medics * MIL.BR - Brazilian Armed Forces * MUS.BR - Musicians * NET.BR - Exclusively for providers of physical communication means, legally habilitated for the prestation of public telecommunication services * NOM.BR - People * NOT.BR - Notaries * NTR.BR - Nutritionists * ODO.BR - Dentists * ORG.BR - Non-profit non-governmental entities * PPG.BR - Publicity specialists and Marketeers * PRO.BR - Teachers * PSC.BR - Psychologists * PSI.BR - Online service providers * QSL.BR - Radio amateurs * REC.BR - Recreational activities, entertainment, leisure, games, etc. * SLG.BR - Sociologists * SRV.BR - Services providers * TMP.BR - Temporary events, such as fairs and exhibitions * TRD.BR - Translators * TUR.BR - Tourism * TV.BR - Sound and image broadcasters, licenced by the Brazilian Communications Ministry * VET.BR - Veterinarians * VLOG.BR - Videologs * WIKI.BR - Wikis * ZLG.BR - Zoologists __________________ For Sale: More than 50 Premium .Tel domains including BVI.TEL AZORES.TEL Redmond.TEL etc.

03-22-2009, 12:55 AM	#19 (permalink)
JagG NamePros Regular Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 524 0.00 NP$ (Donate)	Thank you For Last post What shall I do?? __________________ Search Domain By Category

08-17-2009, 02:49 AM	#22 (permalink)
DiggleNamer NamePros Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Moscow&Tokyo Posts: 193 7.25 NP$ (Donate)	brazil.com $500,000 i would say brazil.br.com is a well worth $40, bit i guess nobody would ever spend the time and money on developing it because of the risk that Central Nic would fold/reclaim the name (can they reclaim names?) __________________ FOR-rwgt.com-SALE

08-17-2009, 04:52 AM	#23 (permalink)
sashas Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Jaipur, India Posts: 3,108 501.00 NP$ (Donate)	JagG, your avatar is easily the most amusing on NP! __________________ Rappers Selling: EcuadorBiz.com - 9.5 Years Old!

08-17-2009, 11:40 AM	#25 (permalink)
joezeppy New Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 7 10.00 NP$ (Donate)	CentralNic Domains Hi All, Somehow I missed this thread. I've been working for CentralNic since 2001. We've been selling our sub-domains since 1995. It's not a scam. I hope you'll allow me to make our case here... When you register a domain name, you are given certain rights & abilities... You can create, issue, and use email addresses on your domain You can create, issue, and use sub-domains You can create and place content... amongst other things. So just as ISPs, hosting companies, and domain holders of all sorts (including many members here) issue and/or sell email addresses on their domains for others to use, CentralNic sells sub-domains. Companies like AOL, Earthlink, & Google have issued millions of email addresses on their domains. Hosting companies have issued sub-domains since the beginning of the Internet, some for a fee and some free. Issuing sub-domains is really no different than issuing email addresses, just less taken advantage of by most companies. You can do the same on your domains if there is any demand. In our case there has been a demand and we've taken advantage of it since 1995. Nothing has ever been hidden, nor is there anything new here (and nor is it a "scam"). We do not call our domains "ccTLDS" or even "TLDs" and we do not encourage our registrars or resellers to do so either (although sometimes, mistakenly they do). We properly call our domains "two-letter, country-specific domain names" we do properly call them "alternative domain names" and we do properly call them "domain names". There is nothing misleading about that. Regarding the claims that our domains can vanish if we go out of business. How can anyone defend that? All I can say is that we've demonstrated a commitment to the domain industry since 1995 and have no intentions of changing that. Anyone can go out of business. Even ccTLDs are subject to changes in government, etc. which happened with the .co ccTLD several years ago. So this is a risk that is inherent with many ccTLDs today. Regardless, I'll admit that this is a calculated risk that any registrant takes but our record has been very good and we've always been profitable and have hundreds of thousands of paid registrations and registrants that we are committed to as a business for over 14 years. Regarding our pricing, it was the strategy we chose. We did not want to be the home to every spammer and phishing site online and did not want to give our sub-domains away. People have responded and given us business. We've watched many "free" sub-domain offers come and go in a blaze of spam and phishing sites. That was not what we wanted for our business. We chose a higher pricing level so that preferably serious buyers registered our names. We didn't want a single buyer to register all of the best domains. It's all just business and we don't twist people's arms. Regarding value of the domains, we have always tried to be very careful NOT to create any hype or disinformation about our domains. Value is in the eyes of the buyer. We have tracked aftermarket activity and have seen a few of them sell for several thousand dollars in the aftermarket and we think their acceptance is growing. But we've never marketed them as "traffic" or "investment" type domains. They are what they are; no more and no less. We provide an easy-to-remember alternative to the others. Anyway, I'm happy to answer any questions that people may have here. __________________ Joe A joe@us.com Last edited by joezeppy; 08-17-2009 at 11:44 AM.

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