Expired domains still active. How?

dugg · 10-12-2008, 04:11 PM

I've been looking at expired domains in GoDaddy auctions, but yet the websites are still up and running when I go to the url. When I look up the WHOIS entry, I can see that they expired a month ago, but yet the original website is still there. How can this be? Would GoDaddy not just take the domain back and park it themselves once it's expired?

I'm a complete newbie, so apologies in advance if this is a stupid question.

dbtbandit67 · 10-12-2008, 11:12 PM

these things take time

what you have to remember about expired domains is that when the time is up on the auction, they go back to nothing pages. if only a minority of these expired domains will get pickup, i dont see the effort in parking all of them

tigrrra · 10-15-2008, 11:14 PM

After a domain expires there is still up to 2 months before it can be re-registered. The registrar will hold it for 30+ days where the original owner has a chance to re-grab the domain for an additional fee normally $80. After which it will go into Del-Pending after which it will go back to normal.

weblord · 10-15-2008, 11:22 PM

a good read

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Pending Delete Cycle
How domain names expire
Many people believe that domains expire at the exact moment that they say. The truth of the matter is that a domain that does not get renewed will actually go through a 75 day process after the expiration date before it is actually available for someone else to pick up. When the owner of a domain does not renew that name by the renewal date, that domain name will go into an expired status. For the next 40 days the domain will stay in a grace period where all services of that domain are turned off - however the domain owner still has the option to renew the domain by paying the standard renewal fee.

Now, once the domain enters the grace period you have your first indication that it may not be renewed at all. But, since the domain can be renewed by the original owner without paying a penalty you may also assume that they will pick it back up before the grace period ends. Some owners simply forget or put-off renewing their domains until they are ultimately forced to do so or lose that domain.

After the 40 day grace period ends the domain's status will be changed to a redemption period. During this period the WhoIs information for that domain will begin to drop. Also during this period if the original owner of that domain decides that he does want to keep it he will be required to pay an additional re-activation and re-registration fee. This fee is typically around $100 but the amount will depend on the registrar. If a domain has entered the redemption period you can just about bet that the original owner has decided to let it go and not renew it.

There is one phase left after the redemption period. Once this period ends the domain will have a locked status as it begins the deletion period. The deletion period lasts only 5 days. On the last day of this period, typically between 11am and 2pm Pacific Time that domain name will be completely dropped from the ICANN database. Once this happens anyone is free to register that domain name.

Now that you know and understand the process of a domain name being dropped it is important to delve into the process to understand how each phase works. Following are explanations of the status codes for domain names.
Domain Name Status Codes:
ACTIVE: The registry sets this status. A domain can only be modified by the domain registrar. The domain can be renewed. The domain will be included in the zone if the domain has been delegated to at least one name server.

REGISTRY-LOCK: The registry sets this status. The domain can not be modified or deleted by the registrar. The registry must remove the REGISTRY-LOCK status for the registrar to modify the domain. The domain can be renewed. The domain will be included in the zone if the domain has been delegated to at least one name server.

REGISTRAR-LOCK: The sponsoring registrar sets this status. The domain can not be modified or deleted. The registrar must remove REGISTRAR-LOCK status to modify the domain. The domain can be renewed. The domain will be included in the zone.

REGISTRY-HOLD: The registry sets this status. The domain can not be modified or deleted by the registrar. The registry must remove the REGISTRY-HOLD status for the registrar to modify the domain. The domain can be renewed. The domain will not be included in the zone.

REGISTRAR-HOLD: The sponsoring registrar sets this status. The domain can not be modified or deleted. The registrar must remove REGISTRAR-HOLD status to modify the domain. The domain can be renewed. The domain will not be included in the zone.

REDEMPTIONPERIOD: The registry sets this status when a registrar requests that the domain name be deleted from the registry and the domain has been registered for more than 5 calendar days (if the delete request is received within 5 days of initial domain registration it will instead be deleted immediately). The domain will not be included in the zone. The domain can not be modified or purged; it can only be restored. Any other registrar requests to modify or otherwise update the domain will be rejected. The domain will be held in this status for a maximum of 30 calendar days.

PENDINGRESTORE: The registry sets this status after a registrar requests restoration of a domain that is in REDEMPTIONPERIOD status. The domain will be included in the zone. Registrar requests to modify or otherwise update the domain will be rejected. The domain will be held in this status while the registry waits for the registrar to provide required restoration documentation. If the registrar fails to provide documentation to the registry within 7 calendar days to confirm the restoration request, the domain will revert to REDEMPTIONPERIOD status. The domain status will be set to ACTIVE only if the registrar provides documentation to the registry within 7 calendar days to confirm the restoration request.

PENDINGDELETE: The registry sets this status after a domain has been set in REDEMPTIONPERIOD status and the domain has not been restored by the registrar. The domain will not be included in the zone. Once in this status all registrar requests to modify or otherwise update the domain will be rejected. The domain will be purged from the registry database after being in this status for 5 calendar days.

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domexp · 10-21-2008, 02:03 AM

Thanks weblord! This is completely new to me. I didn't know that the one can renew "expired" domains during the grace period at the standard rate.

This is a 'rule' or can the different registrars charge as they wish during the "Grace" period?

Thanks,
expdom

miranda78 · 10-26-2008, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by tigrrra

After a domain expires there is still up to 2 months before it can be re-registered. The registrar will hold it for 30+ days where the original owner has a chance to re-grab the domain for an additional fee normally $80. After which it will go into Del-Pending after which it will go back to normal.

when do i need $80 fee?

thanks

10-12-2008, 04:11 PM	#1 (permalink)
dugg First Time Poster! Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 1 0.00 NP$ (Donate)	Expired domains still active. How? I've been looking at expired domains in GoDaddy auctions, but yet the websites are still up and running when I go to the url. When I look up the WHOIS entry, I can see that they expired a month ago, but yet the original website is still there. How can this be? Would GoDaddy not just take the domain back and park it themselves once it's expired? I'm a complete newbie, so apologies in advance if this is a stupid question.

10-15-2008, 11:14 PM	#3 (permalink)
tigrrra NamePros Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: NP, DP, WF Posts: 77 0.00 NP$ (Donate)	After a domain expires there is still up to 2 months before it can be re-registered. The registrar will hold it for 30+ days where the original owner has a chance to re-grab the domain for an additional fee normally $80. After which it will go into Del-Pending after which it will go back to normal. __________________ >> One Stop Nintendo Wii Shop << Top Wii Sites

10-12-2008, 11:12 PM	#2 (permalink)
dbtbandit67 Team USA Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 536 1,549.34 NP$ (Donate)	these things take time what you have to remember about expired domains is that when the time is up on the auction, they go back to nothing pages. if only a minority of these expired domains will get pickup, i dont see the effort in parking all of them

10-21-2008, 02:03 AM	#5 (permalink)
domexp New Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 8 0.00 NP$ (Donate)	Thanks weblord! This is completely new to me. I didn't know that the one can renew "expired" domains during the grace period at the standard rate. This is a 'rule' or can the different registrars charge as they wish during the "Grace" period? Thanks, expdom

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