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Old 09-16-2008, 11:23 AM   · #1
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criteria to register a.net/org/co.uk

Interested in considerations for registering non premium domains in net/org/co.uk/inf/us
giving an example:
foodnatural.com, only registered in .com rest of extensions available.
would anyone reg this, considering (google keyword tool)201000 searches a month,estimated avg cpc 0,98 adv competition o
google searches 329000, plenty ads.
estibot: foodnatural.com value 3200 co 30 ads ppc adds 0,05 overture/month 8170 wordtracker 3/day foodnatural.org.net o
worth considering domain without fixed ideas for website?
worth registering if ideas for website?
Is the low advertiser competition(though 32 ads) according to google keyword combined with a non.com enough to"not even consider it" in spite of healthy "search/result" relation?


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Old 09-17-2008, 05:14 AM   · #2
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I would consider to reg it in .co.uk, but not in .net/.org/.inf/.us

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Old 09-17-2008, 06:14 PM   · #3
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I would barely consider regging this in .com. You have the order backwards. "Natural Food" is the order you want. Use "Phrase" on Adwords instead of "Broad". You will see much less for results. Wordtracker actually shows 0 daily searches and KeywordDiscovery only shows 12 per month. These numbers are accurate. Keep in mind that Overture is out of date and will switch the order of the keywords to show you the most results, rather than accurate results.

To answer your question, only register the other extensions, when they would make a great/amazing .com, but that is taken (in most cases).
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Old 09-18-2008, 02:34 AM   · #4
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I know this works for results in google, but I do not get it for nr of searches.I must be doing something wrong/use the wrong site.
I go to https://adwords.google.com/select/KeywordTool
and get the same numbers(210000 searches) for ;food natural, [food natural]
"food natural", natural food, [natural food],"natural food"

what am I doing wrong here?

Apart from this:Most people and especially "people who click on ads" only(at least start off with) do a broad search, so the number of searches for foodnatural and naturalfood is supposed to be almost the same I tend to think.
Question is whether google gives the "proper order" of words priority in the searchresults.
For me the fewer searchresults the better considering parking is "dead" and it is a matter of getting up high in the searchengines with websites.(with high search)numbers

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Old 09-18-2008, 07:36 PM   · #5
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Originally Posted by henniemeijer
I know this works for results in google, but I do not get it for nr of searches.I must be doing something wrong/use the wrong site.
I go to https://adwords.google.com/select/KeywordTool
and get the same numbers(210000 searches) for ;food natural, [food natural]
"food natural", natural food, [natural food],"natural food"

what am I doing wrong here?




When you do your search and get to the results page. Change the drop down menu from "broad" to "phrase". As you can see, this drops it to a tiny fraction of what it said before. Also, wordtracker shows 0.

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Apart from this:Most people and especially "people who click on ads" only(at least start off with) do a broad search, so the number of searches for foodnatural and naturalfood is supposed to be almost the same I tend to think.
Question is whether google gives the "proper order" of words priority in the searchresults.
For me the fewer searchresults the better considering parking is "dead" and it is a matter of getting up high in the searchengines with websites.(with high search)numbers



This statement is a little crazy (No offense intended). Parking is not dead for quality names. This name doesn't make much sense to me. Do a search for "food natural" on Google. There is not a single reference to someone using these two words together. I see results like this "Health Food - Natural Food", "Dog Food - natural, raw", "Organic Food, Natural food". These are not used together.

You can develop a good site with any domain and get traffic to it. A really good domain will help you out. A domain that doesn't make sense might not kill you, but it certainly won't help you. Keyword Discovery and Wordtracker are much more straightforward than Adwords. The higher the number the better. That simple.
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Old 09-19-2008, 04:06 AM   · #6
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Thanks a lot for the info(did find it) and your ideas sleepy, helpful for me.

I believe the idea about the value of adsense keywordexternal/keyword discovery an wordtracker are still divided, checking all three cannot hurt, but may confuse. Double/tripple checking may lead to not registering many bad ones but also missing some ok names perhaps.

Obviously food natural in the wrong order as a word makes no sense(was also more about the idea behind the numbers than the name to start off with) and will never get natural type- in traffic, which natural food might.

My idea is though that (guessing) 90 % of the people who look for this will type in natural food, 5 % food natural and the other 5 % will use"natural food " or possibly [natural food]
and that therefore having the"proper" keywords will give you decent results when put in the wrong order, maybe similar like how .net/org relate to .com
For example with this nbatural food /food natural both get 13 million searchresults with wholefoods being on top(1 or 2) and exactly he same ads for me(netherlands)
Selling the domain will obviously be very different as it looks so weird, but maybe there you can use the 10 % value that one sees people use for .net/org vs com valuations.

Like to hear it if I am wrong,would save me money and take me from a wrong path.
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