Making End-User Sales - Who knows the Secret?

metrisoft · 07-28-2008, 10:49 AM

Ok, I'm trying to understand exactly how end-users find domains offered for sale by us domainers. Obviously, we all want to find motivated end-users so we can get the most return for our efforts. Thinking back on when I was an "end-user" trying to find a domain name, I went to GoDaddy, did a search, and if the "perfect" .com wasn't available I tried a bunch more searches until I found a .com that I was excited about. If I was really motivated by the name but the .com was not available, I *might* purchase the .net. If the name was an absolutely amazing .com and I had to have it, I would do a "whois" lookup and send an email to the owner.

I realize that not all end-users go through this exact process but I can't figure out how listing a domain for sale at Sedo, Afternic, TDNam, or forums would result in an END-USER sale. I'm perplexed though because I see domains (some of which I think are terrible) being sold at Sedo, etc all the time for premiums (just look at DNJournal). When I was looking for a domain name as an end-user it never even occurred to me to visit these sites.

Maybe there is no "silver bullet" to finding end-users and it just takes viral marketing, patience, and a lot of luck but that's a risky way to run a business. What am I missing?

Maybe sticking with traffic domains is the best bet

chillaxin · 07-28-2008, 11:22 AM

I was thinking the same thing. And maybe there should be a link between end user and seller. I really doubt that most end users are on sedo and tdnam.

tight-aggressive · 07-28-2008, 11:42 AM

Gotta spread the seeds around to get the harvest you are looking for.

For one domain name, you may have to email 50 - 100 potential end users just to get 2 or 3 interested enough people to write back. Even from there you may get no sale.

Check out EndUserSales.com and his posts on here, he seems to be the master of this. He usually is sending out 100s of emails , has dozens of windows open and his persitence is what elevates his success from the rest of the crowd.

Good luck!

bmugford · 07-28-2008, 12:03 PM

From my experience it is much easier to target end users if your domain has Word Tracker scores and PPC ads. Then what I do is -

1.) I will find similar domain names
2.) I will find the companies paying for that exact search term with.

They I come up with a list of potential end users, and one by one I will email them. The emails are similar but customized for each user.

Brad

metrisoft · 07-28-2008, 12:20 PM

What's the best way to find similar domains and companies paying for the exact search term?

domainer50 · 07-28-2008, 04:18 PM

As tight-aggressive pointed out. The people who are good at this, send out hundreds of emails, make many phone calls, and really try to sell what they own. Relying on the end user to search the whois info and contact you, isnt the way to go

chillaxin · 07-28-2008, 05:51 PM

Ok cool. To some it up dont wait for money to come to you. GO GET IT!!!!!!

domainer50 · 07-28-2008, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chillaxin

Ok cool. To some it up dont wait for money to come to you. GO GET IT!!!!!!

Exactly my man

If you are proactive, and a "go getter" you will "get that money"

I thought that was funny

RegFee · 07-28-2008, 06:02 PM

Come join the party:
http://www.namepros.com/domain-name-...end-users.html

weblord · 07-28-2008, 06:35 PM

i regged a name based on keywords that ive research using estibot pro and then reg it and search those same keywords on google and contact at least 10 of them on first page.

johname · 07-29-2008, 04:26 PM

Go find the end user with emails, but remember when you contact them they will think your desprate to sell and will try to low ball you

07-28-2008, 10:49 AM	#1 (permalink)
metrisoft NamePros Regular Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Seattle Posts: 295 740.00 NP$ (Donate)	Making End-User Sales - Who knows the Secret? Ok, I'm trying to understand exactly how end-users find domains offered for sale by us domainers. Obviously, we all want to find motivated end-users so we can get the most return for our efforts. Thinking back on when I was an "end-user" trying to find a domain name, I went to GoDaddy, did a search, and if the "perfect" .com wasn't available I tried a bunch more searches until I found a .com that I was excited about. If I was really motivated by the name but the .com was not available, I might purchase the .net. If the name was an absolutely amazing .com and I had to have it, I would do a "whois" lookup and send an email to the owner. I realize that not all end-users go through this exact process but I can't figure out how listing a domain for sale at Sedo, Afternic, TDNam, or forums would result in an END-USER sale. I'm perplexed though because I see domains (some of which I think are terrible) being sold at Sedo, etc all the time for premiums (just look at DNJournal). When I was looking for a domain name as an end-user it never even occurred to me to visit these sites. Maybe there is no "silver bullet" to finding end-users and it just takes viral marketing, patience, and a lot of luck but that's a risky way to run a business. What am I missing? Maybe sticking with traffic domains is the best bet __________________ SaaS \| M65 Jacket \| Tanning Booths \| Shoulder Bags \| Biometric Monitors \| Car Subwoofers \| Docking Stations \| Seat Covers \| Track Jackets \| Jewelry Roll \| Electric Knives Last edited by metrisoft; 07-28-2008 at 10:56 AM.

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07-28-2008, 11:22 AM	#2 (permalink)
chillaxin NamePros Regular Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: TEJAS Posts: 281 0.00 NP$ (Donate)	I was thinking the same thing. And maybe there should be a link between end user and seller. I really doubt that most end users are on sedo and tdnam.

07-28-2008, 11:42 AM	#3 (permalink)
tight-aggressive Account Closed Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: California Posts: 1,967 801.35 NP$ (Donate)	Gotta spread the seeds around to get the harvest you are looking for. For one domain name, you may have to email 50 - 100 potential end users just to get 2 or 3 interested enough people to write back. Even from there you may get no sale. Check out EndUserSales.com and his posts on here, he seems to be the master of this. He usually is sending out 100s of emails , has dozens of windows open and his persitence is what elevates his success from the rest of the crowd. Good luck!

07-28-2008, 04:18 PM	#6 (permalink)
domainer50 Account Closed Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 3,394 22.45 NP$ (Donate)	As tight-aggressive pointed out. The people who are good at this, send out hundreds of emails, make many phone calls, and really try to sell what they own. Relying on the end user to search the whois info and contact you, isnt the way to go

07-28-2008, 05:51 PM	#7 (permalink)
chillaxin NamePros Regular Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: TEJAS Posts: 281 0.00 NP$ (Donate)	Ok cool. To some it up dont wait for money to come to you. GO GET IT!!!!!!

07-28-2008, 06:35 PM	#10 (permalink)
weblord NamePros Legend Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Philippines - www.Nabaza.com Posts: 19,840 21,700.43 NP$ (Donate)	i regged a name based on keywords that ive research using estibot pro and then reg it and search those same keywords on google and contact at least 10 of them on first page.

07-29-2008, 04:26 PM	#11 (permalink)
johname NamePros Expert Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 6,070 764.00 NP$ (Donate)	Go find the end user with emails, but remember when you contact them they will think your desprate to sell and will try to low ball you

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