3 character .org names and expired domain sites...
Hi, I'm a newbie to the whole domain thing. The only thing I use domains for is to actually develop them into my own websites and forums.
But now I want to try to start to get into buying and selling them to make a profit. I have tons of questions, but right now I have two main ones.
How much are CCC.org domains worth? I don't know if this is what CCC means directly, but I'm talking about ones that have one number in them, because those are what seem to be currently available.
And how much is a 4 character .net domain worth if the letters mean absolutely nothing? Dyqu.net, for example. Possibly $xx, or something at least a little higher than the purchase cost? And if so, how long does it take to have value? I know this is a very newbish thing to say, and most newbies seem to think they can "get rich" over night, but if I can manage to get one of these .org or .net domains, do you think I could make anything at all from them right away? If not in the Marketplace on this forum (filled with experienced domainers), perhaps on eBay?
Lastly, is it good as a newbie to take a look at some of the available domains on deleted/expired/available websites and buy some that I think are good? Or is the reason they are listed on those websites because they don't have any value anyway?
Ironically enough, the very first link in your signature is why I brought the topic up. I was looking at that site and wondered if any of those domains were good.
Do you know where I can find some decent CCC.net and LLLL.net domains, and perhaps how long I would have to wait to sell them? Also, do you think I could buy any for close to reg fee and sell for low $xxx?
If you could buy name on Monday for $7 and sell it on Wednesday for $500 wed all be rich
Anyway for your questions, as of now many LLLL.nets are still available for reg. As for CCC.net they are worth nada, CCC.com are worth a good amount, but you will see CCC.net going for $5-$10 here on NP. As for L-L-L.nets, no current value.
Another question: Do you think domains listed in http://www.namepros.com/available-domain-names/ are of value? Or is that why they are there, because the people that find them don't buy them because they already know they are not worth anything. I see some available domains that I personally think are good (good to me would be $30+), but I really can't tell. What do you think?
It all depends. As the old saying goes "One mans trash, is another mans treasure" I would be very careful about what you buy, and what your buying it for. In other words, most domains that you find these days are only strong if developed, so search through the lists, and if you need further clarification specific names, post them here, and I as well as the other NP members, will be glad to help
What is the general rule of thumb about registering domains that contain future/non-existent movie titles, video games, Apple products, and other stuff like that?
For example, say PlayStation4.com wasn't taken. Would it be a smart idea to buy that (probably back when we were still waiting for PlayStation 3 to come out)? Or something like Hancock2.com, again, obviously if it wasn't taken.
And I'm asking with legal issues aside. I'm just talking about the general idea of doing it so maybe the company offers to buy the domain from you. Didn't someone own iPhone.com before it even existed and Apple gave him loads for it?
Those are tough. If you look, Playstation10.com is gone. Now do you honestly believe that Sony is going to make 7 more models? And if so do you think they would stick with the same number pattern, instead of Playstation X or Y or Z or something?
Buying those types of names is largely speculation, and therefore very risky. I would advise not to buy them, but then again I cannot stop you Like I said previously. Look at those lists, and post some names in this thread that catch your eye, and I will do my best to help you rummage through them.
I really appreciate the quick and helpful responses. I'll take some that catch my eye and put them in here right now. Later I'll take a little more time going through the threads and post more. Right now I just want to see if I'm headed in the right direction.
As of now, the only names I see that MIGHT be worthwhile, is cheatvision.com if it were developed into a cheats website or something of the sort. TryNine.com maybe as a golf website?
Like ive said in the past to many people. Names are what you make of them. If you bought those names today, your probally not going to sell in a month for profit. However if you develop those names into mini sites, and put a small amount of money into marketing, you might have a chance
That is essentially what I do. I learned a long time ago, that the domain market was not for me, for 2 reasons.
1. You need to have a good amount of money to invest, which I did not have at the time.
2. You get burned easily if you do not know what you are doing. (For example, if you hadnt posted this thread, and just gone out registering domains, you would most likely not get that $7 back.)
So for me now, after I have been working online for the past 3-4 years or so. I only buy names that I can develop a site with or that are short (LLL etc) if they are priced correctly.
Im glad you were able to learn that BEFORE registering 10-20 domains, and being out $70-$140. But in any event, I would keep trying and looking for good names. Im on the forum all day every day, so dont hesitate to ask any questions
I own Apple-Forums.com, I bought it to actually develop a forum. But I don't think I am going to anymore. Do you think it is worth more than reg fee undeveloped?
Also, +Rep, something I should have done a while ago.
Thats a toss up. 90% of the users here including myself will tell you that you are asking for trouble with something like Apple-Forums. Apple is a massive company, and that domain poses obvious TM issues. I would recommend trying to sell it off, and get what you can. You could try ebay, as you will open it up to domainers that might not be aware of all the rules and regulations surrounding TM issues like this one.
Makes sense. I'll post an eBay auction later tonight so the auction ends in the eBay prime-time.
I found the site http://llly.net that seems to have a small list of valuable LLLL.com that are in the expiring process. I found one in particular that I would like to register. GoDaddy says it is "X Not Available" and the WhoIs info says it is pending deletion. Does that mean any second/minute/hour/day now it will come back? Is there any strategy to be the first to get it? Do you think there are other people like me that are waiting to get it faster than others? Or do you think no one even knows about it? Is refreshing the page what I have to do?
I would post in the Legal Dispute section, for further clarification on that. However I know that for me, and many other domainers, have a TM in the name is not recommended.
At this stage of the game with LLLL.com names, the only way to get them is generally to bid on them at either snap names or pool. Or purchase them here at NP. I do not think you will have any chance at getting a deleted LLLL.com name, as many and I mean many domainers will also be going after it as well.
Oh okay, well that's a friends site.
