.net always worth 10-20% of .com

daled1 · 02-08-2007, 04:49 PM

So if I think a .com is worth $2,000 and I register the .net, does that mean that the .net will be worth 200-400 dollars?

Or better yet, lets say the .com sold for $2000 recently. are there special circumstances where the .net is worthless?

snoop · 02-08-2007, 04:58 PM

No, this ratio of 10-20% is not reliable, 3-4% for keyword names is more where things are at. Your ratio would be fairly accurate for acronymn names however.

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Or better yet, lets say the .com sold for $2000 recently. are there special circumstances where the .net is worthless?

Yes, lots of the time for enduser sales, even the .com that got $2000 might really be worthless some of the time.

daled1 · 02-08-2007, 07:23 PM

Here is why I asked, I just regged asianmales.net, and the .com went for 4500 a few days ago. I just thought it was a safe bet, because it was a pretty generic term.

so 3-4% huh? is it still the 2nd best domain or is mobi and tv taken over?

snoop · 02-08-2007, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by daled1

so 3-4% huh? is it still the 2nd best domain or is mobi and tv taken over?

Yes, it is still second best of the gtlds.

daled1 · 02-08-2007, 07:48 PM

what do you think my reg is worth? anything?

Thanks for the replies

Fka200 · 02-08-2007, 08:23 PM

I honestly think the person who purchased the .com was aware the .net was available. It probably wasn't worth it to the person who was going to purchase the .com, even though they could've spent another 7$ and grab the .net, so it really actually depends on what happens with the .com

**labrocca** · 02-08-2007, 09:17 PM

3-4%? Ugh...not likely sir.

It can vary but I would say 5-50%. Let's just look at LLL.com's. Minimum for those is $3250 and LLL.net is $700 over at the 3character.com price guide. That's a 22% ratio....way off from 3-4%. I would say your asianmales.net has a low $xxx value now based on that sale.

snoop · 02-08-2007, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by labrocca

3-4%? Ugh...not likely sir.

It can vary but I would say 5-50%.

Thinking the market for most names is 5-50% with an average of 22% is dreaming, just take some of bigger sales in these extensions,

huge.com $106050
huge.net $3800

sex.com $12-14M
sex.net $454,500

I'd like to seee some examples of sales that you have seen where the ratio is between 5 and 50% for keyword names.

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Originally Posted by labrocca

Let's just look at LLL.com's. Minimum for those is $3250 and LLL.net is $700 over at the 3character.com price guide. That's a 22% ratio....way off from 3-4%.

did you read my post?,

"No, this ratio of 10-20% is not reliable, 3-4% for keyword names is more where things are at. Your ratio would be fairly accurate for acronymn names however."

aristotle · 02-09-2007, 03:19 AM

I believe the .net is worth 3-4%. 20% is a bit highy. Its better than nothing

**labrocca** · 02-10-2007, 05:53 PM

I gave a perfect example of 22% with LLL's. Sex.net sold for about 5% of the .com.

Saying that the general range is 3-4% is very deceptive imho. It's a larger range than that.

What in your estimation is the value of Asianmales.net give that AsianMales.com sold for $2000 because 3% is only $60. I would give it more value than that, maybe $100-$250.

RealEstate.net just went for $300k. If you are saying 3-4% then the .com is worth $8 million? That's possible but I would bet it would sell for less...like $3-4 million which is more like 10%.

Merlin.net sold for $30k so is Merlin.com worth $800k? Doubtful...more like $100k or even less.

I am not saying a .net can't be worth only 3-4% but overall I believe the range is far greater and can be as high as 50% imho.

**Mark** · 02-10-2007, 06:10 PM

IMO - It would be Very hard to say any extension is worth "X %" of .com or any other extension really.

If you look at the way they are treated by search engines - .org is my Second choice now (Though I own Very few) ... Just an observation on Search Engine stats etc ...
If you look at total registrations to date (Not always a great way to value an extension due to prices / Local uses of CCTlds' etc ...) .de is second only to .com

As far as Building a site or Branding yourself on a domain - I feel its nearly impossible to avoid .com - .net sites have always seemed to lose some traffic to them in the long run so any "marketing" of the .net will more than likely be handing over a certain amount of the traffic paid for to the .com version "IMO".

From a re-sell POV - I just don't think you can have a set ratio to base prices on.

Business.com ~ Business.net
is Different to me compared to
BusinessCards.com ~ BusinessCards.net

The keyword/term in front of the Extension has to make a difference as well.

**labrocca** · 02-10-2007, 06:35 PM

I agree mark...it's very hard to say a percentage...that's why saying 3-4% is deceptive. One must allow for many factors which can open the range up tremendously.

snoop · 02-11-2007, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by labrocca

I gave a perfect example of 22% with LLL's.

Please read my first post, it stated very clearly acronym names fall into a much higher percentage, we know the % is much higher than for keyword names.

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Originally Posted by labrocca

Sex.net sold for about 5% of the .com.

Your 5% calculation is wrong/exaggerated in favor of your argument, based on $12 million sale price it is 3.7%, based on $14 million it is 3.2%.

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Originally Posted by labrocca

Saying that the general range is 3-4% is very deceptive imho. It's a larger range than that.

Based on what sales data?

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Originally Posted by labrocca

RealEstate.net just went for $300k. If you are saying 3-4% then the .com is worth $8 million? That's possible but I would bet it would sell for less...like $3-4 million which is more like 10%.

I'd say higher than $8 million, $3-4 million isn't realistic in todays market, but these types of comparisons are just hypothetical argument.

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Originally Posted by labrocca

Merlin.net sold for $30k so is Merlin.com worth $800k? Doubtful...more like $100k or even less.

It pointless picking the extreme sales in particular extensions then using guesswork scenarios about names that haven't sold. If merlin.com had been sold at the same time for 100k you'd have a point, but it hasn't been. It would be like me saying vodka.com got $3 million, would vodka.net get 22% which is 660k?, these are worthless comparisons, let's stick to comparisons based on real sales data.

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Originally Posted by labrocca

3-4%? Ugh...not likely sir.

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Originally Posted by labrocca

I am not saying a .net can't be worth only 3-4%

Does this mean your view has now changed?

**labrocca** · 02-11-2007, 05:42 PM

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It pointless picking the extreme sales in particular extensions then using guesswork scenarios about names that haven't sold.

But that's exactly what we are doing for the OP. So this argument is pointless and I will post in it no further.

snoop · 02-11-2007, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by labrocca

But that's exactly what we are doing for the OP. So this argument is pointless and I will post in it no further.

Personally I'm using real world comparisons where the names have been sold in both extensions around the same time. If you want to know how extensions compare look at the sales data.

Netsilver · 02-12-2007, 12:05 AM

iMotivate.com is For Sale for $125,000 by GreatDomains.
I own iMotivate.net and the best offer recieved is less then 0.02%.

So the Thumb Rule is not always applicable.

pros · 02-12-2007, 12:06 AM

.net - 4-5% of .com, not 10-20%

realestatepro · 02-12-2007, 03:19 AM

Then perhaps iMotivate.com isn't worth $125k ?????
By some peoples calculation it would fetch around $3-7k realistically. But your offers could only be due to the .com's for sale status yes....

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Originally Posted by Netsilver

iMotivate.com is For Sale for $125,000 by GreatDomains.
I own iMotivate.net and the best offer recieved is less then 0.02%.

So the Thumb Rule is not always applicable.

snoop · 02-12-2007, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Netsilver

I own iMotivate.net and the best offer recieved is less then 0.02%.

So the Thumb Rule is not always applicable.

I don't think unaccepted offers mean much.

VURG · 02-12-2007, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by labrocca

RealEstate.net just went for $300k. If you are saying 3-4% then the .com is worth $8 million? That's possible but I would bet it would sell for less...like $3-4 million which is more like 10%.

I disagree. The owner of RealEstate.com should not sell it for such a low price as $3 million.

realestatepro · 02-12-2007, 06:25 PM

I tell you what. If you can get the owners of RealEstate.com to sell to me for $3 million then I would be more then happy to pay you for your time.
Personally I don't think they would sell for less then 10 million but even then they would not be that interested.

The only reason .net was picked up at 300k is that it was a fixed price from 2 1/2 years ago and a lot has changed for the + in this time.

snoop · 02-12-2007, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by realestatepro

The only reason .net was picked up at 300k is that it was a fixed price from 2 1/2 years ago and a lot has changed for the + in this time.

I don't think this would imply the domain was sold cheapy, it probably means the price was too high in the past for it to take so long. The price is largely inline with other recent .net sales in my view.

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daled1 NamePros Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 45 0.00 NP$ (Donate)	.net always worth 10-20% of .com So if I think a .com is worth $2,000 and I register the .net, does that mean that the .net will be worth 200-400 dollars? Or better yet, lets say the .com sold for $2000 recently. are there special circumstances where the .net is worthless?

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labrocca Recovering Jerk Forum Moderator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 5,498 1,196.64 NP$ (Donate)	3-4%? Ugh...not likely sir. It can vary but I would say 5-50%. Let's just look at LLL.com's. Minimum for those is $3250 and LLL.net is $700 over at the 3character.com price guide. That's a 22% ratio....way off from 3-4%. I would say your asianmales.net has a low $xxx value now based on that sale. __________________ Proxy Filter SEO Tag Cloud Domain Name Generator Debate Forums Free Online Sudoku \| My vBum Blog

02-10-2007, 05:53 PM	#10 (permalink)
labrocca Recovering Jerk Forum Moderator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 5,498 1,196.64 NP$ (Donate)	I gave a perfect example of 22% with LLL's. Sex.net sold for about 5% of the .com. Saying that the general range is 3-4% is very deceptive imho. It's a larger range than that. What in your estimation is the value of Asianmales.net give that AsianMales.com sold for $2000 because 3% is only $60. I would give it more value than that, maybe $100-$250. RealEstate.net just went for $300k. If you are saying 3-4% then the .com is worth $8 million? That's possible but I would bet it would sell for less...like $3-4 million which is more like 10%. Merlin.net sold for $30k so is Merlin.com worth $800k? Doubtful...more like $100k or even less. I am not saying a .net can't be worth only 3-4% but overall I believe the range is far greater and can be as high as 50% imho. __________________ Proxy Filter SEO Tag Cloud Domain Name Generator Debate Forums Free Online Sudoku \| My vBum Blog

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labrocca Recovering Jerk Forum Moderator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 5,498 1,196.64 NP$ (Donate)	I agree mark...it's very hard to say a percentage...that's why saying 3-4% is deceptive. One must allow for many factors which can open the range up tremendously. __________________ Proxy Filter SEO Tag Cloud Domain Name Generator Debate Forums Free Online Sudoku \| My vBum Blog

02-08-2007, 07:23 PM	#3 (permalink)
daled1 NamePros Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 45 0.00 NP$ (Donate)	Here is why I asked, I just regged asianmales.net, and the .com went for 4500 a few days ago. I just thought it was a safe bet, because it was a pretty generic term. so 3-4% huh? is it still the 2nd best domain or is mobi and tv taken over?

02-08-2007, 07:48 PM	#5 (permalink)
daled1 NamePros Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 45 0.00 NP$ (Donate)	what do you think my reg is worth? anything? Thanks for the replies

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aristotle NamePros Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 60 0.00 NP$ (Donate)	I believe the .net is worth 3-4%. 20% is a bit highy. Its better than nothing

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Mark No Country for Old Domainers ... Member Services Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 9,873 4,750.95 NP$ (Donate)	IMO - It would be Very hard to say any extension is worth "X %" of .com or any other extension really. If you look at the way they are treated by search engines - .org is my Second choice now (Though I own Very few) ... Just an observation on Search Engine stats etc ... If you look at total registrations to date (Not always a great way to value an extension due to prices / Local uses of CCTlds' etc ...) .de is second only to .com As far as Building a site or Branding yourself on a domain - I feel its nearly impossible to avoid .com - .net sites have always seemed to lose some traffic to them in the long run so any "marketing" of the .net will more than likely be handing over a certain amount of the traffic paid for to the .com version "IMO". From a re-sell POV - I just don't think you can have a set ratio to base prices on. Business.com ~ Business.net is Different to me compared to BusinessCards.com ~ BusinessCards.net The keyword/term in front of the Extension has to make a difference as well.

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Netsilver NamePros Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 132 1,223.40 NP$ (Donate)	iMotivate.com is For Sale for $125,000 by GreatDomains. I own iMotivate.net and the best offer recieved is less then 0.02%. So the Thumb Rule is not always applicable. __________________ www.vApi.info Indian City Name For Sale Ujjain.info - Indian City Name For Sale

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pros Account Suspended Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 353 127.57 NP$ (Donate)	.net - 4-5% of .com, not 10-20%

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realestatepro NamePros Regular Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 356 32,137.50 NP$ (Donate)	I tell you what. If you can get the owners of RealEstate.com to sell to me for $3 million then I would be more then happy to pay you for your time. Personally I don't think they would sell for less then 10 million but even then they would not be that interested. The only reason .net was picked up at 300k is that it was a fixed price from 2 1/2 years ago and a lot has changed for the + in this time. __________________ BasicWebsiteReview.com - Review your website for the very basics...

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