Can not make any domain sales

ForexPros · 09-23-2006, 04:48 PM

Hi,

I am trying to sell my domains for a very long time

and no success. Do I have bad domains? Or just ask to much.

DomainLobe · 09-23-2006, 06:01 PM

Possibly both BUT price point seems to be the most important selling feature to most forumeers. I went through the same then remembered this is a long-term game.
If you want to sell now it seems easier to make a a few bucks on a number of names then huge bucks on one or two but in fact I feel buying better / expensive names is a stronger plan.

Archangel · 09-23-2006, 07:22 PM

Quote:

VOZK.com ZNOF.com VOZV.com ZUKT.com VOZV.com all for sale $200 each

Yeah -- you're asking for too much considering the domain you offer are low quality. The above realistically couldn't get $20 each.

Mods: Sorry if this post breaks forum ToS -- He inquired and I answered. I wouldn't have given a critique of his domains had he not asked for one.

-Adam- · 09-23-2006, 08:19 PM

I agree with the above post. Asking way to much for some LLLL.com's If they were actual words it would be another story.

versu23 · 09-24-2006, 12:49 PM

You have LLLL.com for 200$. I bought a LLL.info with 2 premium letters with 200$...so... You cannot sell your names for that amount.

I think it is a good thing too read topics from this forum before you reg. any domain.

Archangel · 09-24-2006, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by versu23

I think it is a good thing too read topics from this forum before you reg. any domain.

Agreed. There are too many noobs who think they can reg a worthless domain and turn around & get rich from it a day later. I once regged 2 for $10 or so and sold them a day later for $20/pair. That was a profit, yes, but nothing to call home about.

**labrocca** · 09-24-2006, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForexPros

Do I have bad domains? Or just ask to much.

both! If you can't understand the market at this low a level you will never go any higher. Domaining is an open market which means that prices fluctuate according to demand and availability. Every domain has a price...whether it's $1000 or $1...everything can be sold. The secret isn't really a secret...price accordingly. If you have crap..price it as such. If you have gold...price it higher. Domains sell at what the market allows. Great domains are placed in the open for buyers to compete against one another to raise the price in hopes of buying the domain.

Spend time looking at what has sold and for what price. It may help you evaluate what you have in inventory and to price it correctly.

Good luck.

floatingworld · 09-24-2006, 05:53 PM

put the 4L names up for auction at namepros starting at $5 each and test the market value.......

MastMnds · 09-24-2006, 06:45 PM

Gonna also agree I have some 4 letter .com's but I honestly think its just worth reg fee. Your gonna have to hold on your names like those for a while and see if the market goes up. Also remember reason why 3 letter .com's are alot more is because there is alot less names.

netzilla · 09-24-2006, 06:47 PM

What methods have you tried?

gingeman · 09-25-2006, 04:36 AM

Hi Forexpros!
Its a difficult game this and unfortunately, a little more is involved in the sale of domains than putting them up for sale on a few forums for the amount you would like to get for them. If you sell on this sort of platform, it would be a very rare occassion that you would get any more than reseller values for your names. Also, looking at your names, you have to be hypercritical:- VOZK.com ZNOF.com VOZV.com ZUKT.com VOZV.com all for sale $200 each is just unrealistic in this forum; there are still a multitude of LLLL.coms available to register, and these are full of 'bad' letters, so expect reg-fee for them until all LLLL.coms are gone (appx 18mths).
I would advise actively trying to sell your names- use whois to find the email addresses of potential buyers for your names, then email people to offer your name for sale. Even this approach will only get a response around 10-20% of the time, so make sure you find as many people as you can to approach with your names. If you can't find many prospective buyers, you probably have bad names, so either trya again, or develop the names as best you can, as traffic will always add value.

Spend some real time reading around the forum- you must have a deep desire to learn more and more about the industry if you want to succeed. I still have massive amounts to learn too but I won't be giving up. Good Luck!

CHILLY · 09-25-2006, 08:15 AM

Being a Newbie and reading various posts aroung the forum, it seems like you have a choice to buy/reg a name for long term investment, short term investment-name flip and parking/development investement. Many years ago LLL.com name were available and people regged them some were developed and perhaps some not but--Now look! Perhaps it just may be a matter of time. I have some not-so-good LLLL.com's like WQQC.com AND VBHU.com ect..(see sig. lol) but i parked them at Sedo and in a few days they have like 10-12 unique views it doesn't mean much right now but perhaps it will in time??? Perhpas you can visit dnslaeprice.com or afternic.com and get somewhat of an idea and a little feel for what certian Domains are selling for and also look into which domains are not.

Archangel · 09-25-2006, 11:24 AM

Be careful, every step of the way. Domaining is like heroin: once you get a taste of it, you'll be addicted. That can be VERY bad if you don't know the ropes... a lot of ppl on this forum spend their life savings on bad domains and shortly after sell their portfolio trying to make back lost money... this is fun but dangerous. Be wise about it or you'll fail. The majority of domain investors fail, too -- don't become a statistic

CHILLY · 09-25-2006, 03:19 PM

Thank you Archangle for that post, I tried to give you a Rep agian but they would not let me. I have about 25-30 domains since i started and basically i'm done until i sell some for reg-fee or more and develope some of them like I planned to do (once i get that going

). Yeh, you see those sales and it gets you to thinking. I had no idea people were spending life savings on bad Domains and then try to sell portfolios to try to get lost money. I can see the addiction. Thanks again for that post!!!

Archangel · 09-25-2006, 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CHILLY

I had no idea people were spending life savings on bad Domains and then try to sell portfolios to try to get lost money.

Look in the sales threads and you'll see at least one noob-firesale a day

floatingworld · 09-25-2006, 05:49 PM

I think the so-called firesales are not necessarily because of spending life savings but rather an expectation of quick returns that did not happen together with a lack of enthusiasm for the industry except in those terms. For many true domainers the money is just a way of keeping score..................

dotnom · 09-27-2006, 04:57 AM

Consider the trade value of the names before you register them
4 chars maybe good if you are lucky and find a company with the correct acronyms. Phrase domains need a lot of research

Domains are no different from any other service/product in the world
If you find a buyer for $20 for a domain you bought for $10 then this is 100% profit
If you sell it for $60 then this is 500%

Imagine you have a set of stocks. Set a goal (logical) and if you get an offer that exceed the goal sell them

allroundguy · 10-04-2006, 11:31 AM

A major part of domain traders try to push certain standards, while another part doesn't care and sells fluently very long domains, strange domains, hyphenated domains and 4 character domains that have no English meaning but could well be used in some other language.
Domain business is still under full development and, in time, a lot of misunderstandings will disappear.
The market for a domain is the number of people that have shown interest in buying it - That's all.
Domains are addresses and do not need to have any meaning.
With the upcoming of GSM - Internet the most wanted domains could be those with the least characters by example "LLL.cc" that is 3+2=5 things to type in the cell phone.
That way .mobi, .travel, and even .com might become too long.
There is a interesting thread located at:
http://www.namepros.com/showthread.p...0&goto=newpost
This is in my honest opinion, of course.

09-23-2006, 04:48 PM	#1 (permalink)
ForexPros Account Closed Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 317 0.00 NP$ (Donate)	Can not make any domain sales Hi, I am trying to sell my domains for a very long time and no success. Do I have bad domains? Or just ask to much.

09-23-2006, 06:01 PM	#2 (permalink)
DomainLobe DN Investor Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: www Posts: 978 10.00 NP$ (Donate)	Possibly both BUT price point seems to be the most important selling feature to most forumeers. I went through the same then remembered this is a long-term game. If you want to sell now it seems easier to make a a few bucks on a number of names then huge bucks on one or two but in fact I feel buying better / expensive names is a stronger plan. __________________ Domain Names lead economic recovery

09-24-2006, 12:49 PM	#5 (permalink)
versu23 NamePros Regular Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 323 183.75 NP$ (Donate)	You have LLLL.com for 200$. I bought a LLL.info with 2 premium letters with 200$...so... You cannot sell your names for that amount. I think it is a good thing too read topics from this forum before you reg. any domain. __________________ www.crocmint.com - Best affiliate program-upto 45% commission, 1$ for every refferal, free templates, SENT PM for more details

09-24-2006, 06:45 PM	#9 (permalink)
MastMnds NamePros Regular Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 324 788.30 NP$ (Donate)	Gonna also agree I have some 4 letter .com's but I honestly think its just worth reg fee. Your gonna have to hold on your names like those for a while and see if the market goes up. Also remember reason why 3 letter .com's are alot more is because there is alot less names. __________________ Have I helped you at all? than you know where the rep. button is. :) :hehe: Photoshop Brushes and Tutorials

09-24-2006, 06:47 PM	#10 (permalink)
netzilla Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,704 223.80 NP$ (Donate)	What methods have you tried? __________________ "If PHP is peanut butter...then...MySQL would be the jelly. Together they can make one heck of a good sandwich." --- Netzilla 9/14/08

09-23-2006, 08:19 PM	#4 (permalink)
-Adam- The Caffeine King! Join Date: May 2006 Location: Pensacola, Florida Posts: 1,525 0.00 NP$ (Donate)	I agree with the above post. Asking way to much for some LLLL.com's If they were actual words it would be another story.

09-24-2006, 05:53 PM	#8 (permalink)
floatingworld dawnofthefloatingworld Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: nightlesscity Posts: 3,409 380.00 NP$ (Donate)	put the 4L names up for auction at namepros starting at $5 each and test the market value.......

09-25-2006, 04:36 AM	#11 (permalink)
gingeman Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Classified Posts: 2,646 467.10 NP$ (Donate)	Hi Forexpros! Its a difficult game this and unfortunately, a little more is involved in the sale of domains than putting them up for sale on a few forums for the amount you would like to get for them. If you sell on this sort of platform, it would be a very rare occassion that you would get any more than reseller values for your names. Also, looking at your names, you have to be hypercritical:- VOZK.com ZNOF.com VOZV.com ZUKT.com VOZV.com all for sale $200 each is just unrealistic in this forum; there are still a multitude of LLLL.coms available to register, and these are full of 'bad' letters, so expect reg-fee for them until all LLLL.coms are gone (appx 18mths). I would advise actively trying to sell your names- use whois to find the email addresses of potential buyers for your names, then email people to offer your name for sale. Even this approach will only get a response around 10-20% of the time, so make sure you find as many people as you can to approach with your names. If you can't find many prospective buyers, you probably have bad names, so either trya again, or develop the names as best you can, as traffic will always add value. Spend some real time reading around the forum- you must have a deep desire to learn more and more about the industry if you want to succeed. I still have massive amounts to learn too but I won't be giving up. Good Luck! __________________ Poker Vids 3 Character domain! Subscribe to my newsletter! Accurate Name Domains For Sale DomainingLinks.com

09-25-2006, 08:15 AM	#12 (permalink)
CHILLY NamePros Regular Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: New Jersey Posts: 528 2,213.10 NP$ (Donate)	Being a Newbie and reading various posts aroung the forum, it seems like you have a choice to buy/reg a name for long term investment, short term investment-name flip and parking/development investement. Many years ago LLL.com name were available and people regged them some were developed and perhaps some not but--Now look! Perhaps it just may be a matter of time. I have some not-so-good LLLL.com's like WQQC.com AND VBHU.com ect..(see sig. lol) but i parked them at Sedo and in a few days they have like 10-12 unique views it doesn't mean much right now but perhaps it will in time??? Perhpas you can visit dnslaeprice.com or afternic.com and get somewhat of an idea and a little feel for what certian Domains are selling for and also look into which domains are not.

09-25-2006, 11:24 AM	#13 (permalink)
Archangel www.randypendleton.com Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Southern Ohio, USA Posts: 3,819 99.00 NP$ (Donate)	Be careful, every step of the way. Domaining is like heroin: once you get a taste of it, you'll be addicted. That can be VERY bad if you don't know the ropes... a lot of ppl on this forum spend their life savings on bad domains and shortly after sell their portfolio trying to make back lost money... this is fun but dangerous. Be wise about it or you'll fail. The majority of domain investors fail, too -- don't become a statistic __________________ Randy L Pendleton, author -- www.RandyPendleton.com Will Be Back Soon! cPanelHosting.com-cPanel Experts For 8 Years Hosting From $4.99 And 2 Months Free Australia Web hosting \| Political Cartoons \| Social network of blogs

09-25-2006, 03:19 PM	#14 (permalink)
CHILLY NamePros Regular Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: New Jersey Posts: 528 2,213.10 NP$ (Donate)	Thank you Archangle for that post, I tried to give you a Rep agian but they would not let me. I have about 25-30 domains since i started and basically i'm done until i sell some for reg-fee or more and develope some of them like I planned to do (once i get that going ). Yeh, you see those sales and it gets you to thinking. I had no idea people were spending life savings on bad Domains and then try to sell portfolios to try to get lost money. I can see the addiction. Thanks again for that post!!!

09-25-2006, 05:49 PM	#16 (permalink)
floatingworld dawnofthefloatingworld Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: nightlesscity Posts: 3,409 380.00 NP$ (Donate)	I think the so-called firesales are not necessarily because of spending life savings but rather an expectation of quick returns that did not happen together with a lack of enthusiasm for the industry except in those terms. For many true domainers the money is just a way of keeping score..................

09-27-2006, 04:57 AM	#17 (permalink)
dotnom Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: ZARDEN.com Posts: 1,541 156.80 NP$ (Donate)	Consider the trade value of the names before you register them 4 chars maybe good if you are lucky and find a company with the correct acronyms. Phrase domains need a lot of research Domains are no different from any other service/product in the world If you find a buyer for $20 for a domain you bought for $10 then this is 100% profit If you sell it for $60 then this is 500% Imagine you have a set of stocks. Set a goal (logical) and if you get an offer that exceed the goal sell them __________________ >>> ZARDEN.com <<< ::: domain names ::: FOR SALE the following GEO Domains ALL with .COM TLD : CasablancaPRO - DelhiPRO - JakartaPRO - ManilaPRO - MilanoPRO - MonterreyPRO - NapoliPRO - SantiagoPRO - eEssen - eKoln/iKoln - iHanoi - iMaputo - iRecife/myRecife - iSalvador/mySalvador

10-04-2006, 11:31 AM	#18 (permalink)
allroundguy NamePros Regular Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Gent, Belgium, Europe. Posts: 304 6.00 NP$ (Donate)	There are no good or bad domains - It's how every individual sees it. A major part of domain traders try to push certain standards, while another part doesn't care and sells fluently very long domains, strange domains, hyphenated domains and 4 character domains that have no English meaning but could well be used in some other language. Domain business is still under full development and, in time, a lot of misunderstandings will disappear. The market for a domain is the number of people that have shown interest in buying it - That's all. Domains are addresses and do not need to have any meaning. With the upcoming of GSM - Internet the most wanted domains could be those with the least characters by example "LLL.cc" that is 3+2=5 things to type in the cell phone. That way .mobi, .travel, and even .com might become too long. There is a interesting thread located at: http://www.namepros.com/showthread.p...0&goto=newpost This is in my honest opinion, of course. __________________ On the Net since 1993

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