Typo advice to typo newbies

NameTrader.com · 05-05-2006, 05:36 PM

This is all pretty much speaking from my own experience with typo domains...some others may have a different experience with them, and so I wouldn't accept this advice as "fact". It's my opinion on the best way to approach getting typos.

First off, get typos of domains, not words. One of the reasons Pocker.com and Porker.com were able to sell for as much as they did were because Poker.com was an established, fairly high traffic site site in addition to poker being an elite keyword. Keep this in mind when selecting your target to get typos of. The Overture Keyword Selector Tool is often referenced around here as one of the most powerful domain tools, and indeed it is. Put your target domain in here and see how many results it gets. Compare a lot of different target domains you have, and the higher number is the better target for traffic since those are direct type-ins to Overture.

Secondly, though harder to judge, try to target domains in more lucrative markets. Poker is my favorite, because Fabulous pays $8-$20 per click on their poker parking. Casinos are even higher and are another good target. There are many high-paying keywords out there, and a good way for those who have a hard time figuring them out is the Overture Bid Tool. It shows the max bids of links placed on Overture, a PPC-based search engine. The higher the better of course.

So...onto the first revelation: The best typos I have are actually not typos. They are either misspellings or substitute related terms inserted in place of a word in the domain (like putting "auto" in place of "car" in the domain). I have about 30 poker names among which are many misspellings and "related term" names to a couple of poker sites, and it's generally those doing the best.

For the misspellings, target words that could be hard to spell. I was excited to see a commercial for UltimateBet.tv, knowing first that Ultimatebet.com/net was an established poker site and that the .tv was probably new to their arsenal, and seeing that "ultimate" is misspelled a LOT. The misspellings I got for that site have worked out rather well. An example of related term is a "typo" domain I got for DoylesRoom.com/net (another poker site). Doyle Brunson is who the site is named after, and a simple switcheroo of his last name in place of his first and I found myself some available names that have been making me a nice earning.

Some of the other typo names I own are in fact typos though. Again, based on how mine do, if you want to get typos, get missing letter typos or transposition typos instead of extra letter or wrong letter typos. Extra letter typos and wrong letter typos usually involve many situations with 1 single letter of the name. Missing letter involves only 1 situation per letter, and transpositions of letters right next to each other also involves only 1 situation. Don't do more than one transposition or missing letter at a time. Like "music"...search for usic, msic, musc, musi, umsic, msuic, muisc, and musci sooner than typos like mussic, nusic, mudic, etc.

That's all for now. Hope this post helps a bunch of you aspiring typo-ists! If any other people out there doing well with typos would like to chime in, feel free to do so.

Halobitt · 05-05-2006, 05:49 PM

Know of any tools that will give the statistical probabilities of typos
rather than just just hoping one gets typed in more than another.

www.fatfingers.com could possibly assist in finding variations of words.

NameTrader.com · 05-05-2006, 07:39 PM

With the Overture Keyword Selector Tool, you can find which typos are searched if the word is searched enough, and then plug it into the name. If there's a program that provides statistical analysis of typos based on search data more detailed then what Overture provides and would give percentage chance of a typo occurring, I'm unaware of it, and I'm sure it's probably not very well known and kept secretive by the people that know about it, or else people would be referencing it all the time in places like this. I'm sure most domainers would not give out the Overture Keyword Selector Tool link if it wasn't for the fact that just about everyone in the biz already knows about it.

Finding typo variations is as easy as simply looking at the keyboard and going by type. That FatFingers.com doesn't bring up pocker or porker, the 2 poker typos of which the .coms sold for a nice pile of money, and what FatFingers does find are easy enough to come up with on your own. Poker for example...

"missing letter" typos
oker
pker
pokr
poke

"transposed letters" typos
opker
pkoer
poekr
pokre

"extra letter" typos
ppoker
pooker
pokker
pokeer
pokerr

"wrong letter" typos
loker
plker
piker
ppker (not that likely since it's more of a "double the p and forget the o" occurence)
poler
poier
pomer
pooer (same as ppker)
pomer
pojer
pokrr (same also)
pokdr
poksr
pokwr
pokee (same also)
poket
poked
pokef

There's some more typos that would be okay, but that covers most typos, and I just did that by looking as I typed and following what I was looking for.

khuldun · 05-05-2006, 08:58 PM

Very nice post, but you gotta keep in mind theres an onslaught going on against typo names and these wont be much popular sooner or later. But then again, you might just continue to rake in parked traffic

Very nice post, but you gotta keep in mind theres an onslaught going on against typo names and these wont be much popular sooner or later. But then again, you might just continue to rake in parked traffic

NameTrader.com · 05-05-2006, 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by khuldun

Very nice post, but you gotta keep in mind theres an onslaught going on against typo names and these wont be much popular sooner or later. But then again, you might just continue to rake in parked traffic

That's one of the good things about one of the "typos" I mentioned, the related term names. For instance, if UltimateBet.com TMd but I had UltimatePoker.com, I wouldn't have anything to worry about, and with UltimateBet.com being a poker site, UltimatePoker.com is a great related term name that would take advantage of UltimateBet.com's prominence. Naturally it's taken already, lol.

**mis_chiff** · 05-05-2006, 10:26 PM

So, would pokrhand.com be considered a typo? or rather...a good typo?

Reppy · 05-05-2006, 11:39 PM

Excellent thread Crooky.

mick · 05-06-2006, 03:24 PM

Overture Tool often corrects typos automatically so that it displays the original search term and you don't get to see any results of the typo you typed in but oker and pker work.

franchise · 05-07-2006, 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crooky

That's one of the good things about one of the "typos" I mentioned, the related term names. For instance, if UltimateBet.com TMd but I had UltimatePoker.com, I wouldn't have anything to worry about, and with UltimateBet.com being a poker site, UltimatePoker.com is a great related term name that would take advantage of UltimateBet.com's prominence. Naturally it's taken already, lol.

Could someone please share what may happen if you had a parked ultimaetbet.com and the original ultimatebet.com was tm'd or even if it wasn't tm'd. Do they just issue you a c&d order or what typically happens?

What are some of the rules of conduct when it comes to the typo world?

Fleege · 05-12-2006, 02:19 PM

Great Thread. great original Post.

Quote:

Originally Posted by franchise

What are some of the rules of conduct when it comes to the typo world?

Good question too.

I have a love hate relationship with typo domaining. The greatest point here is that "good typo domains arent typos at all" Just another version of a domain. Putting one self in a surfers shoes and "be the name".

rzpvile · 05-17-2006, 07:36 PM

Great post Crooky and that was a very helpful site Halobitt. I'm going to look at Poker names now (Inspired!).

Fleege · 05-18-2006, 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rzpvile

Great post Crooky and that was a very helpful site Halobitt. I'm going to look at Poker names now (Inspired!).

Just dont be too inspired.

As with regular names the best typo domains are long gone but just like regualr domains NEW opportunities present themselves everyday.

I am right now counterplating regging one.

Also inspired - I bought Misspelled.org here at NP. I intend to do something misspelling about it - not quite sure...

NameTrader.com · 05-18-2006, 02:53 PM

If I had a misspelled Misspelled.org, I would probably get Mispeeld.org or something, lol j/k.

By the way, in general you want to make sure whatever you're getting typos of is not trademarked. A lot of places won't allow you to park potential trademark issue names, and you run the risk of losing the name. I made a mistake of getting typos of B0d0gP0ker.com/net (pretend 0 = o) which is trademarked and have had to put them on Sedo Parking because Fabulous rejected them. See if you can guess which one is getting the most traffic. All are "b0d0g" typos with poker not being typo'd:

bogog
bodogg
bogod
modog
bogog
bodawg (was my pick before I got the names...am I right?)
bogdog

Note that any typos that would obviously be better ones were already taken.

kiviniar · 05-18-2006, 08:58 PM

never thought typos could be so lucrative...........

me too inspired..thanks Crooky

shanee86 · 05-18-2006, 10:08 PM

Yea I had the chance for some great ones. They were mispelling's of domainsponsor.com they were like domainsponsot.com and domainsponsoe.com or so. But I didn't reg and of course someone else did.

kindigo · 05-19-2006, 03:51 AM

i was just wondering what does the word typo means and this thread has answered my question

Lasher · 05-19-2006, 05:12 PM

This is probably a "duh!" to most of you, but I'm fairly new at this. I'm assuming that typos of common generic terms such as "mortgage" and "shopping" are fine and cannot be trademark challenged in any way?

NameTrader.com · 05-19-2006, 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lasher

This is probably a "duh!" to most of you, but I'm fairly new at this. I'm assuming that typos of common generic terms such as "mortgage" and "shopping" are fine and cannot be trademark challenged in any way?

As far as I'm aware yes. Typos of Google on the other hand...

Xonium · 05-20-2006, 12:29 PM

I've done a little study of typos of google, using the overture keyword selector tool. As google is such a big site, there are really alot of typos recorded at the overture tool, but here are the top typos I found. Hope this is useful for you to find out which are the most common types of typos

google.com 8 112 897

Missing letters
78 875 gogle.com (Also a misspelling)
69 033 googl.com
36 922 goole.com
13 892 oogle.com
3 952 googe.com

Doubled letters
18 585 gooogle.com
5 536 googgle.com
2 439 googlee.com

Reversed letters
46 311 googel.com (This is also a little bit of misspelling)
13 938 goolge.com

Replaced with close letters
4 160 googlr.com
2 221 gooble.com

Others
1 628 googli.com
3 203 googler.com

Another missing letter typo is wwwgoogle.com, missed dot. Of course this applies to all domains, it doesn't seem to get recorded at the overture tool however.

MrBarby · 05-30-2006, 07:37 AM

I made a tool to help automate this whole process: typogen.com

It follows your recommendations - missed letters and hitting the letter next to the correct one.

Mods, please delete this if you think it's spam, but I feel it's a useful addtion to this topic

googol · 06-03-2006, 01:52 PM

o.k., crooky, what was the best out of the bodog group? i'm dying to know.

Coron · 06-03-2006, 04:03 PM

Really nice article, it told me pretty musch everything I needed to know about domain typo's.

NameTrader.com · 06-03-2006, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by googol

o.k., crooky, what was the best out of the bodog group? i'm dying to know.

The best has been BogdogPoker.net, followed by BogodPoker.net, BogogPoker.net, and BodoggPoker.net. The rest have done barely anything. I'm surprised BodawgPoker.net has barely done anything...I figure people type it in as dawg so much with chatting that they might type it in the name, but I guess not!

Corky · 06-04-2006, 12:28 AM

This thread is awesome Crooky

googol · 06-04-2006, 09:38 AM

i talked with fabulous.com about parking sites with them, and they said you have to have 100 or more domains to get started. is this true?

also, who are the best parking sites to use if you only have 1 or 2 names?

by the way, this is a very helpful thread, crooky! also, thanks to xonium?

sorry, xonium, that was supposed to be a ! after your name, not a ?

there is an ad at the top of the page right now for fabulous.com, and it says "market the hottest properties on the web" and make 15%. what the heck does that mean? don't they market the properties? how can the reader of the ad market anything and get 15%, and who pays them the 15%?

05-05-2006, 05:36 PM	#1 (permalink)
NameTrader.com n/\m€ t\|2a\|)oЯ Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: San Diego, CA, USA Posts: 2,844 363.50 NP$ (Donate)	Typo advice to typo newbies This is all pretty much speaking from my own experience with typo domains...some others may have a different experience with them, and so I wouldn't accept this advice as "fact". It's my opinion on the best way to approach getting typos. First off, get typos of domains, not words. One of the reasons Pocker.com and Porker.com were able to sell for as much as they did were because Poker.com was an established, fairly high traffic site site in addition to poker being an elite keyword. Keep this in mind when selecting your target to get typos of. The Overture Keyword Selector Tool is often referenced around here as one of the most powerful domain tools, and indeed it is. Put your target domain in here and see how many results it gets. Compare a lot of different target domains you have, and the higher number is the better target for traffic since those are direct type-ins to Overture. Secondly, though harder to judge, try to target domains in more lucrative markets. Poker is my favorite, because Fabulous pays $8-$20 per click on their poker parking. Casinos are even higher and are another good target. There are many high-paying keywords out there, and a good way for those who have a hard time figuring them out is the Overture Bid Tool. It shows the max bids of links placed on Overture, a PPC-based search engine. The higher the better of course. So...onto the first revelation: The best typos I have are actually not typos. They are either misspellings or substitute related terms inserted in place of a word in the domain (like putting "auto" in place of "car" in the domain). I have about 30 poker names among which are many misspellings and "related term" names to a couple of poker sites, and it's generally those doing the best. For the misspellings, target words that could be hard to spell. I was excited to see a commercial for UltimateBet.tv, knowing first that Ultimatebet.com/net was an established poker site and that the .tv was probably new to their arsenal, and seeing that "ultimate" is misspelled a LOT. The misspellings I got for that site have worked out rather well. An example of related term is a "typo" domain I got for DoylesRoom.com/net (another poker site). Doyle Brunson is who the site is named after, and a simple switcheroo of his last name in place of his first and I found myself some available names that have been making me a nice earning. Some of the other typo names I own are in fact typos though. Again, based on how mine do, if you want to get typos, get missing letter typos or transposition typos instead of extra letter or wrong letter typos. Extra letter typos and wrong letter typos usually involve many situations with 1 single letter of the name. Missing letter involves only 1 situation per letter, and transpositions of letters right next to each other also involves only 1 situation. Don't do more than one transposition or missing letter at a time. Like "music"...search for usic, msic, musc, musi, umsic, msuic, muisc, and musci sooner than typos like mussic, nusic, mudic, etc. That's all for now. Hope this post helps a bunch of you aspiring typo-ists! If any other people out there doing well with typos would like to chime in, feel free to do so. __________________ Domainate.com - Find out about our upcoming services! Domain Names For Sale \| Nametrader Twitter Free Samples \| Freebie Twitter

05-05-2006, 07:39 PM	#3 (permalink)
NameTrader.com n/\m€ t\|2a\|)oЯ Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: San Diego, CA, USA Posts: 2,844 363.50 NP$ (Donate)	With the Overture Keyword Selector Tool, you can find which typos are searched if the word is searched enough, and then plug it into the name. If there's a program that provides statistical analysis of typos based on search data more detailed then what Overture provides and would give percentage chance of a typo occurring, I'm unaware of it, and I'm sure it's probably not very well known and kept secretive by the people that know about it, or else people would be referencing it all the time in places like this. I'm sure most domainers would not give out the Overture Keyword Selector Tool link if it wasn't for the fact that just about everyone in the biz already knows about it. Finding typo variations is as easy as simply looking at the keyboard and going by type. That FatFingers.com doesn't bring up pocker or porker, the 2 poker typos of which the .coms sold for a nice pile of money, and what FatFingers does find are easy enough to come up with on your own. Poker for example... "missing letter" typos oker pker pokr poke "transposed letters" typos opker pkoer poekr pokre "extra letter" typos ppoker pooker pokker pokeer pokerr "wrong letter" typos loker plker piker ppker (not that likely since it's more of a "double the p and forget the o" occurence) poler poier pomer pooer (same as ppker) pomer pojer pokrr (same also) pokdr poksr pokwr pokee (same also) poket poked pokef There's some more typos that would be okay, but that covers most typos, and I just did that by looking as I typed and following what I was looking for. __________________ Domainate.com - Find out about our upcoming services! Domain Names For Sale \| Nametrader Twitter Free Samples \| Freebie Twitter

05-05-2006, 08:58 PM	#4 (permalink)
khuldun Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: In front of my Dell Posts: 1,126 44.40 NP$ (Donate)	Very nice post, but you gotta keep in mind theres an onslaught going on against typo names and these wont be much popular sooner or later. But then again, you might just continue to rake in parked traffic Very nice post, but you gotta keep in mind theres an onslaught going on against typo names and these wont be much popular sooner or later. But then again, you might just continue to rake in parked traffic __________________ New mobile content website coming soon

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Reppy NamePros Regular Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Southern Hemisphere Posts: 944 49.05 NP$ (Donate)	Excellent thread Crooky. __________________ The Rise of the Roman Empire

05-05-2006, 05:49 PM	#2 (permalink)
Halobitt NamePros Regular Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Scotland Posts: 853 476.20 NP$ (Donate)	Know of any tools that will give the statistical probabilities of typos rather than just just hoping one gets typed in more than another. www.fatfingers.com could possibly assist in finding variations of words.

05-06-2006, 03:24 PM	#8 (permalink)
mick NamePros Regular Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 223 0.00 NP$ (Donate)	Overture Tool often corrects typos automatically so that it displays the original search term and you don't get to see any results of the typo you typed in but oker and pker work.

05-17-2006, 07:36 PM	#11 (permalink)
rzpvile Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,112 501.21 NP$ (Donate)	Great post Crooky and that was a very helpful site Halobitt. I'm going to look at Poker names now (Inspired!). __________________ Instantdollarz Review CPALead Review I make $5,000 a month with CPALead and Instantdollarz. Join under me and I will teach you!

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NameTrader.com n/\m€ t\|2a\|)oЯ Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: San Diego, CA, USA Posts: 2,844 363.50 NP$ (Donate)	If I had a misspelled Misspelled.org, I would probably get Mispeeld.org or something, lol j/k. By the way, in general you want to make sure whatever you're getting typos of is not trademarked. A lot of places won't allow you to park potential trademark issue names, and you run the risk of losing the name. I made a mistake of getting typos of B0d0gP0ker.com/net (pretend 0 = o) which is trademarked and have had to put them on Sedo Parking because Fabulous rejected them. See if you can guess which one is getting the most traffic. All are "b0d0g" typos with poker not being typo'd: bogog bodogg bogod modog bogog bodawg (was my pick before I got the names...am I right?) bogdog Note that any typos that would obviously be better ones were already taken. __________________ Domainate.com - Find out about our upcoming services! Domain Names For Sale \| Nametrader Twitter Free Samples \| Freebie Twitter

05-18-2006, 08:58 PM	#14 (permalink)
kiviniar NamePros Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 52 9.90 NP$ (Donate)	never thought typos could be so lucrative........... me too inspired..thanks Crooky

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shanee86 NamePros Regular Join Date: May 2005 Location: Oklahoma City Oklahoma Posts: 467 41.70 NP$ (Donate)	Yea I had the chance for some great ones. They were mispelling's of domainsponsor.com they were like domainsponsot.com and domainsponsoe.com or so. But I didn't reg and of course someone else did. __________________ My sites: Free Funny Videos Free flash games. Free Banner Exchange DotNameHost Hosting at its best Upload More Files

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kindigo NamePros Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 77 156.00 NP$ (Donate)	i was just wondering what does the word typo means and this thread has answered my question

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Lasher Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Orlando Posts: 1,208 1,831.00 NP$ (Donate)	Typos and trademarks. This is probably a "duh!" to most of you, but I'm fairly new at this. I'm assuming that typos of common generic terms such as "mortgage" and "shopping" are fine and cannot be trademark challenged in any way?

05-20-2006, 12:29 PM	#19 (permalink)
Xonium New Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 9 0.00 NP$ (Donate)	I've done a little study of typos of google, using the overture keyword selector tool. As google is such a big site, there are really alot of typos recorded at the overture tool, but here are the top typos I found. Hope this is useful for you to find out which are the most common types of typos google.com 8 112 897 Missing letters 78 875 gogle.com (Also a misspelling) 69 033 googl.com 36 922 goole.com 13 892 oogle.com 3 952 googe.com Doubled letters 18 585 gooogle.com 5 536 googgle.com 2 439 googlee.com Reversed letters 46 311 googel.com (This is also a little bit of misspelling) 13 938 goolge.com Replaced with close letters 4 160 googlr.com 2 221 gooble.com Others 1 628 googli.com 3 203 googler.com Another missing letter typo is wwwgoogle.com, missed dot. Of course this applies to all domains, it doesn't seem to get recorded at the overture tool however. __________________ List of all available LLL.in domains for free!

05-30-2006, 07:37 AM	#20 (permalink)
MrBarby NamePros Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 76 0.00 NP$ (Donate)	I made a tool to help automate this whole process: typogen.com It follows your recommendations - missed letters and hitting the letter next to the correct one. Mods, please delete this if you think it's spam, but I feel it's a useful addtion to this topic Last edited by MrBarby; 05-31-2006 at 02:11 AM.

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googol New Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 4 0.00 NP$ (Donate)	o.k., crooky, what was the best out of the bodog group? i'm dying to know.

06-03-2006, 04:03 PM	#22 (permalink)
Coron New Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6 27.10 NP$ (Donate)	Really nice article, it told me pretty musch everything I needed to know about domain typo's.

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06-04-2006, 09:38 AM	#25 (permalink)
googol New Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 4 0.00 NP$ (Donate)	parking services i talked with fabulous.com about parking sites with them, and they said you have to have 100 or more domains to get started. is this true? also, who are the best parking sites to use if you only have 1 or 2 names? by the way, this is a very helpful thread, crooky! also, thanks to xonium? sorry, xonium, that was supposed to be a ! after your name, not a ? there is an ad at the top of the page right now for fabulous.com, and it says "market the hottest properties on the web" and make 15%. what the heck does that mean? don't they market the properties? how can the reader of the ad market anything and get 15%, and who pays them the 15%?

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