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Old 09-19-2005, 08:22 PM THREAD STARTER               #1 (permalink)
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Shill Bidding in Ebay -What should I do

I recently bidded on 2 items, and both times I was outbid by another user. I tried to out bid this user but there proxy was quite high. Now I went to see this user's profile, they have been on ebay since 2001, but have only won 3 auctions this month from the same seller, as the one I tried to buy from... this to me looks highly suspicious (shill bidding), and I would like to know what I can do to see if my suspicions are correct.

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Old 09-19-2005, 08:27 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I have had this happen before.
I was buying a satellite dish and did a little research on the person bidding against me.
Turns out the "person" had no trader rating at all even though he had signed up 3 years prior, coincidently the same time the seller signed up.

I informed the seller that I suspected him of shilling and that I would not be paying. I then lodged a complaint with Ebay.
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I informed the seller that I suspected him of shilling and that I would not be paying. I then lodged a complaint with Ebay.
hmm is that all you can do?

but thanks for the info!

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If you file a complaint with eBay during the actual auction, they
will monitor it and the scammer and his shill will never know it till
it's too late.

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Old 09-19-2005, 10:47 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by mellowmasher
Bids like this are happening everyday All you can do is contact ebay and hope they keep an eye
... and try not to get in a bidding war with the shill bidder. Ebay is big, there may be others selling exactly the same item.
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Funny since they can just put a BIN or reserve if they're really after a certain amount.

Report it and look elsewhere.
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Originally Posted by nicholas
Funny since they can just put a BIN or reserve if they're really after a certain amount.

Report it and look elsewhere.
BIN's and reserves tend to scare bidders away
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True... Ya I guess Ill report to Ebay!
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I dont suppose the seller will be satisfied selling things himself (and paying eBay provision for such a transaction). So I usually bid the price I am willing to pay but not higher following the shill bidder and dont care of shill bidding any more.
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Hmm

Well I reported it to ebay, guess now I just gotta wait...
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Originally Posted by Iravan
Hmm

Well I reported it to ebay, guess now I just gotta wait...

Let us know what they reply
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Try to stay away from ebay. don't get me wrong theres some nice deals on there but domain forums are the best IMO.
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Try to stay away from ebay. don't get me wrong theres some nice deals on there but domain forums are the best IMO.
More Buyers on ebay...
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/domain-newbies/125131-shill-bidding-ebay-what-should-i.html

Ah Well Still Waiting

Id thought I would add the item that i was outbid on by the shiller, according to the shiller's feedback he/she had alreay purchased the exact same item from the exact same seller... seems even more suspicious
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Originally Posted by mikfo
If you file a complaint with eBay during the actual auction, they
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eBay won't do squat about it

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Sorry to be the bearer of bad news
Lol Dont Worry

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Day 2 - Still no reponse, I bought another item form this seller but this time it was of less value, so no shill bidding...
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Originally Posted by Iravan
Day 2 - Still no reponse, I bought another item form this seller but this time it was of less value, so no shill bidding...
Lets hope you get it, looking forward to hearing the results

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Now I think of it ebay has live help now (=\), go into there and report it
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Nah Ill eait for their trust and safety

Day 3 btw...
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Bah - Write it down for your own use ..... and move on - Ebay could really care less IMO , It has been going on forever and seems to be some of their "PowerSellers" only techniques for selling ......
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That is actually illegal (in england at least), ebay should be more strict about it.
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let us assume that the item is listed as a no reserve starting price of $10. The seller would like at least $50 but thinks that a higher starting price will kill the auction. The use of a fake bidder helps to, in theory, bid up the price and encourage the chase...If you use sniper software then it is more difficult for the seller to push you around with his 'friend'.
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Yep this is a power seller
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- Write it down for your own use ..... and move on
Ya this doesnt really affect my life much but whatever....
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let us assume that the item is listed as a no reserve starting price of $10. The seller would like at least $50 but thinks that a higher starting price will kill the auction.
Hmm Listed @ $0.99
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If you use sniper software then it is more difficult for the seller to push you around with his 'friend'
Im not a avid ebay to use automated sniper...
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