terminology library

SimpleDomaining · 07-16-2005, 09:27 AM

Just suggestion to add a liblrary for newbies.
For example what is DMOZ?
what is PR4, PR5, PR8 etc.

SimpleDomaining · 07-20-2005, 12:27 PM

people, really, what is better PR1? PR2? PR3? PR4? what is that mystery PR in this business?
i really think we need some guide here for newbies, describing terminology used in this forum.
sorry for bumping this topic up, but really need some answer.

NameClerk.com · 07-20-2005, 01:08 PM

There is a FAQ at the top of this board that might contain answers to many of your questions.

Whenever I find myself in a position similar to the one you're in I consider the possibility of developing the product or guide myself. There's obviously a demand for it, after all, you're looking for it. In the process of developing it, you learn everything you wanted to know and when you're finished, you have a new product that you can sell or use to generate traffic to a website of your choice.

DMOZ - The Open Directory Project - A directory made up of volunteer editors. It's located at http://www.dmoz.org

PR - Short for Google Pagerank - A rank assigned to a website based on the quality of inbound links. There are other factors as well but nobody outside of google knows the exact formula. The higher the number the better. PR9 is better than PR6.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/domain-newbies/107116-terminology-library.html

Hope this helps get you started.

Coastalguy · 07-20-2005, 01:44 PM

This was suggested "many moons ago" here at NamePros. It was a good idea then and continues to be a good idea.

Hope it happens.

ST

TWM · 07-20-2005, 01:50 PM

someone think of a domain, PM me, ill register and start it in the name of NP. Ill host as well. Users from NP will be able to add questions/answers, ect as well as new terms...

Coastalguy · 07-20-2005, 02:13 PM

Just off the top of my head:

NP101.com
NPfaq.com
NamePros101.com
NameProsFAQ.com

These aren't that good.

Maybe I'll post some better ones later (if necessary).

ST

SimpleDomaining · 07-20-2005, 07:57 PM

thank you so much. i didnt know about PR, the more the better. my domain had PR1 and i was happy. thought that it is the best. Oh well

**Michelle** · 07-20-2005, 09:36 PM

I thinks its a great idea

NPq&a.com

TWM · 07-20-2005, 09:43 PM

why not make it more generic so everyone can use it? Possibly, its run by NP members, but for everyones use. Basically, NP spreading the knowledge.

worldstar · 07-21-2005, 01:54 AM

Good idea!

invincible.vib · 07-21-2005, 02:24 AM

DMOZ- The open directory project is a very reputed directory which has a huge listing of sites category wise.What makes DMOZ special is that they are maintained by human editors.And thir main aim is to provide best information.
Getting quality website is their main objective.
So if you have a website and want to register in DMOZ then you need to have a website
1. Offering some quality content.
2. No content duplication is allowed.They will concider it as spamming.And they'll not register your site.
3. You shoud register your site in a proper category.There are lots of categories available in DMOZ so first do an extensive research to find the category in which your site fits.Then submit it.They genrlly dont index sites submitted in wrong category.
4. You shouldn't submit ur site twice.Like if u submit yourname.com then u don't need to submit yourname.com/about.htm or any other link.

Most imp question.Why you need to bother about DMOZ?

1. Thats because its a very reputed directory and it can get a lots of targeted traffic to your site.
2. Search engines like google, yahoo & msn take results from DMOZ.So if you can get your site listed in DMOZ then certainly your rankings will improve in these engines.

PR- Google Page Rank (or PR as it is often referred to as) is simply an indication of the number of websites that link to a specific website. It also attempts to indicate the quality of those links. PR ranges from 0 to 10 (with 10 being the 'best' PR and 0 being the 'worst'). The vast majority of small business websites will usually find they have a PR of between 0 and 5.

To calculate a particular sites PR, Google uses a fairly complicated algorithm based on the number of web links that it is aware of that link to the site in question. This algorithm will also take into account the PR of the page that is providing the link, thus a link from a web page that has a PR of 7 will be considered more valuable than a link from a page with a PR of 4.

Because of the way in which links from higher PR-ranked sites are considered more important, many people are choosing to buy links from websites with high PR's just so that they can increase their own PR. I have seen sites selling a simple text link on their home page for over $700 a month purely based on the fact that they have a PR of 7 or above. This may seem like a lot of money but when you consider that the website owners that are buying these links often have websites that are in no way relevant to the content of the site linking to them, it is absolutely ridiculous.

Take this example, let's say you have a website about health and fitness and you buy a link for $500 a month from a random website because it has a PR of 7. This random website has no relevance to your health and fitness site so what is going to happen? Well, your own PR may increase as a result of the link. You may get a bit of extra traffic but probably not much since people don't click on links that that they are not interested in. You will definitely be $500 poorer at the end of the month!
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=107116
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=107116

Instead, why not spend the $500 on pay-per-click advertising and benefit from some quality, targeted traffic?

Of course, there is a bit more to it than that and the reason that most people want to increase their PR is because Google takes this statistic into account when determining where a website will be displayed in their search results. Many people assume that a high PR automatically equals a high search engine placement for their chosen keywords. Not so....

PR is just one of over 100 different factors that Google takes into account when deciding where your website will feature (and these factors and the main algorithm change on a very regular basis). It is perfectly possible for a website with a PR of 5 to get a higher ranking than a PR 7 site if it has better content or is more relevant for the search term in question.

Remember that relevance is all important with Google and a link from a website that is not relevant to your own site will be considered far less important than a relevant one (which makes buying links from random sites purely because they have a high PR even more crazy).

I have read several rumours lately that Google haven't updated PR's for a couple of months and they are considering phasing PR out or modifying it in some way. This is pure speculation but it wouldn't surprise me in the least. PR is easily manipulated (for example by purchasing links as described above) and Google doesn't like to have their calculations or search results manipulated. It stands to reason that they will be looking at ways of preventing this.

So, in summary, is Google Page Rank important to your business?

Well, it is a good indicator of how many other sites link to yours and how important Google considers your site to be BUT I personally don't place too much importance on this statistic and I certainly won't be paying out for a link from a website just because it has a high PR.

As I said above, Google changes it's rules on a regular basis and I see little point in chasing a particular PR on the basis that it might get you higher search engine rankings. If Google do decide to do away with PR, all your work will have been for nothing.

Instead, concentrate on building quality, relevant links from sites that are connected in some way to your own site content. This will ensure that any traffic you receive via these links will at least have an interest in your site. Building links on this basis will automatically increase your PR over time (without the need to pay out for overpriced, irrelevant links). If you do things this way and Google does scrap the PR indicator, it shouldn't affect you in any way and the links you have in place will continue to benefit you.

Remember, in the same way that a low Alexa rating doesn't guarantee traffic or sales, neither does a high PR. Sure a high PR is a 'nice to have' but lots of traffic and high sales is even nicer :-)

SimpleDomaining · 07-21-2005, 07:45 AM

this was great answer. thank you so much. Excuse my wonder about this DMOZ. I am 7 year internet user for almost 24/7, but never hear about it. thats strange.

coolpix · 07-21-2005, 11:02 PM

Originally Posted by gugush

this was great answer. thank you so much. Excuse my wonder about this DMOZ. I am 7 year internet user for almost 24/7, but never hear about it. thats strange.

I have used the Internet for several years but this is the first time I heard about DMOZ...

**Michelle** · 07-21-2005, 11:06 PM

Originally Posted by coolpix

I have used the Internet for several years and this is the first time I heard about DMOZ...

I have to admit until last week I did not know what DMOZ was

barefoottech · 07-21-2005, 11:54 PM

Yes ,one of the common mistakes NewBies make is thinking PageRank1 is the Best
or Being on first page of Google/Yahoo/Whatever for their Domain.Name Means PageRank1

**Michelle** · 07-22-2005, 12:12 AM

Originally Posted by Barefoottech

Yes ,one of the common mistakes NewBies make is thinking PageRank1 is the Best
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=107116
or Being on first page of Google/Yahoo/Whatever for their Domain.Name Means PageRank1

Yes I thought this was good

TWM · 07-22-2005, 09:13 AM

So, back to the topic....

Any ideas on domains?

**Michelle** · 07-22-2005, 09:25 AM

tecnobuff.com is going and it sounds great

$NPs always grateful if name used

or tecnoname

SimpleDomaining · 07-22-2005, 11:09 AM

easy.
NameprosLibrary.com
or library.namepros.com

MissFlora · 07-22-2005, 05:49 PM

ya, library.namepros.com looks very cool for this and if this is really implemented, I am sure many domainers can help out to make up something for the newer domainers as reference purposes.

Flora.

barefoottech · 07-22-2005, 07:42 PM

Quote:

I have read several rumours lately that Google haven't updated PR's for a couple of months and they are considering phasing PR out or modifying it in some way. This is pure speculation but it wouldn't surprise me in the least. PR is easily manipulated (for example by purchasing links as described above) and Google doesn't like to have their calculations or search results manipulated. It stands to reason that they will be looking at ways of preventing this.

Invincible.vib
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=107116
FYI
The PR updates started Nearly 2 weeks Ago
Addendum
Idevisedesign Sorry Wrong name

TWM · 07-22-2005, 07:51 PM

no problem dood

07-16-2005, 09:27 AM	THREAD STARTER #1 (permalink)
SimpleDomaining Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Phoenix AZ Posts: 1,628 Follow @simpledomaining	terminology library Just suggestion to add a liblrary for newbies. For example what is DMOZ? what is PR4, PR5, PR8 etc.

07-20-2005, 12:27 PM	THREAD STARTER #2 (permalink)
SimpleDomaining Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Phoenix AZ Posts: 1,628 Follow @simpledomaining	people, really, what is better PR1? PR2? PR3? PR4? what is that mystery PR in this business? i really think we need some guide here for newbies, describing terminology used in this forum. sorry for bumping this topic up, but really need some answer. __________________ naturalskincareproducts.com

07-20-2005, 01:08 PM	#3 (permalink)
NameClerk.com Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Ohio, USA Posts: 1,436 Follow @NameClerk	There is a FAQ at the top of this board that might contain answers to many of your questions. Whenever I find myself in a position similar to the one you're in I consider the possibility of developing the product or guide myself. There's obviously a demand for it, after all, you're looking for it. In the process of developing it, you learn everything you wanted to know and when you're finished, you have a new product that you can sell or use to generate traffic to a website of your choice. DMOZ - The Open Directory Project - A directory made up of volunteer editors. It's located at http://www.dmoz.org PR - Short for Google Pagerank - A rank assigned to a website based on the quality of inbound links. There are other factors as well but nobody outside of google knows the exact formula. The higher the number the better. PR9 is better than PR6. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/domain-newbies/107116-terminology-library.html Hope this helps get you started. __________________ AvailableDomainNames.com Subscribe via RSS

07-20-2005, 01:44 PM	#4 (permalink)
Coastalguy NamePros Expert Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Great White North Posts: 6,978	This was suggested "many moons ago" here at NamePros. It was a good idea then and continues to be a good idea. Hope it happens. ST __________________ FOR SALE: MLSHomes.org/MLSRealEstate.tv/VWTH.com

07-20-2005, 02:13 PM	#6 (permalink)
Coastalguy NamePros Expert Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Great White North Posts: 6,978	Just off the top of my head: NP101.com NPfaq.com NamePros101.com NameProsFAQ.com These aren't that good. Maybe I'll post some better ones later (if necessary). ST __________________ FOR SALE: MLSHomes.org/MLSRealEstate.tv/VWTH.com

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07-20-2005, 01:50 PM	#5 (permalink)
TWM Web Marketing Specialist Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Texas, USA Posts: 1,335	someone think of a domain, PM me, ill register and start it in the name of NP. Ill host as well. Users from NP will be able to add questions/answers, ect as well as new terms...

07-20-2005, 07:57 PM	THREAD STARTER #7 (permalink)
SimpleDomaining Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Phoenix AZ Posts: 1,628 Follow @simpledomaining	thank you so much. i didnt know about PR, the more the better. my domain had PR1 and i was happy. thought that it is the best. Oh well __________________ naturalskincareproducts.com

07-20-2005, 09:36 PM	#8 (permalink)
Michelle Be Happy... Don't Worry Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: UK Posts: 16,269	I thinks its a great idea NPq&a.com

07-20-2005, 09:43 PM	#9 (permalink)
TWM Web Marketing Specialist Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Texas, USA Posts: 1,335	why not make it more generic so everyone can use it? Possibly, its run by NP members, but for everyones use. Basically, NP spreading the knowledge.

07-21-2005, 01:54 AM	#10 (permalink)
worldstar Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 3,434	Good idea! __________________ txh.org e-gu.com juzhe.com hotlearning.com

07-21-2005, 02:24 AM	#11 (permalink)
invincible.vib NamePros Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 38	DMOZ- The open directory project is a very reputed directory which has a huge listing of sites category wise.What makes DMOZ special is that they are maintained by human editors.And thir main aim is to provide best information. Getting quality website is their main objective. So if you have a website and want to register in DMOZ then you need to have a website 1. Offering some quality content. 2. No content duplication is allowed.They will concider it as spamming.And they'll not register your site. 3. You shoud register your site in a proper category.There are lots of categories available in DMOZ so first do an extensive research to find the category in which your site fits.Then submit it.They genrlly dont index sites submitted in wrong category. 4. You shouldn't submit ur site twice.Like if u submit yourname.com then u don't need to submit yourname.com/about.htm or any other link. Most imp question.Why you need to bother about DMOZ? 1. Thats because its a very reputed directory and it can get a lots of targeted traffic to your site. 2. Search engines like google, yahoo & msn take results from DMOZ.So if you can get your site listed in DMOZ then certainly your rankings will improve in these engines. PR- Google Page Rank (or PR as it is often referred to as) is simply an indication of the number of websites that link to a specific website. It also attempts to indicate the quality of those links. PR ranges from 0 to 10 (with 10 being the 'best' PR and 0 being the 'worst'). The vast majority of small business websites will usually find they have a PR of between 0 and 5. To calculate a particular sites PR, Google uses a fairly complicated algorithm based on the number of web links that it is aware of that link to the site in question. This algorithm will also take into account the PR of the page that is providing the link, thus a link from a web page that has a PR of 7 will be considered more valuable than a link from a page with a PR of 4. Because of the way in which links from higher PR-ranked sites are considered more important, many people are choosing to buy links from websites with high PR's just so that they can increase their own PR. I have seen sites selling a simple text link on their home page for over $700 a month purely based on the fact that they have a PR of 7 or above. This may seem like a lot of money but when you consider that the website owners that are buying these links often have websites that are in no way relevant to the content of the site linking to them, it is absolutely ridiculous. Take this example, let's say you have a website about health and fitness and you buy a link for $500 a month from a random website because it has a PR of 7. This random website has no relevance to your health and fitness site so what is going to happen? Well, your own PR may increase as a result of the link. You may get a bit of extra traffic but probably not much since people don't click on links that that they are not interested in. You will definitely be $500 poorer at the end of the month! ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=107116 ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=107116 Instead, why not spend the $500 on pay-per-click advertising and benefit from some quality, targeted traffic? Of course, there is a bit more to it than that and the reason that most people want to increase their PR is because Google takes this statistic into account when determining where a website will be displayed in their search results. Many people assume that a high PR automatically equals a high search engine placement for their chosen keywords. Not so.... PR is just one of over 100 different factors that Google takes into account when deciding where your website will feature (and these factors and the main algorithm change on a very regular basis). It is perfectly possible for a website with a PR of 5 to get a higher ranking than a PR 7 site if it has better content or is more relevant for the search term in question. Remember that relevance is all important with Google and a link from a website that is not relevant to your own site will be considered far less important than a relevant one (which makes buying links from random sites purely because they have a high PR even more crazy). I have read several rumours lately that Google haven't updated PR's for a couple of months and they are considering phasing PR out or modifying it in some way. This is pure speculation but it wouldn't surprise me in the least. PR is easily manipulated (for example by purchasing links as described above) and Google doesn't like to have their calculations or search results manipulated. It stands to reason that they will be looking at ways of preventing this. So, in summary, is Google Page Rank important to your business? Well, it is a good indicator of how many other sites link to yours and how important Google considers your site to be BUT I personally don't place too much importance on this statistic and I certainly won't be paying out for a link from a website just because it has a high PR. As I said above, Google changes it's rules on a regular basis and I see little point in chasing a particular PR on the basis that it might get you higher search engine rankings. If Google do decide to do away with PR, all your work will have been for nothing. Instead, concentrate on building quality, relevant links from sites that are connected in some way to your own site content. This will ensure that any traffic you receive via these links will at least have an interest in your site. Building links on this basis will automatically increase your PR over time (without the need to pay out for overpriced, irrelevant links). If you do things this way and Google does scrap the PR indicator, it shouldn't affect you in any way and the links you have in place will continue to benefit you. Remember, in the same way that a low Alexa rating doesn't guarantee traffic or sales, neither does a high PR. Sure a high PR is a 'nice to have' but lots of traffic and high sales is even nicer :-)

07-21-2005, 07:45 AM	THREAD STARTER #12 (permalink)
SimpleDomaining Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Phoenix AZ Posts: 1,628 Follow @simpledomaining	this was great answer. thank you so much. Excuse my wonder about this DMOZ. I am 7 year internet user for almost 24/7, but never hear about it. thats strange. __________________ naturalskincareproducts.com

07-21-2005, 11:54 PM	#15 (permalink)
barefoottech The MINISITE King Join Date: May 2005 Location: QTHR Posts: 4,594	Yes ,one of the common mistakes NewBies make is thinking PageRank1 is the Best or Being on first page of Google/Yahoo/Whatever for their Domain.Name Means PageRank1 __________________ Studio51 Sites! Often Copied Always Amazing Never Bettered.

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TWM Web Marketing Specialist Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Texas, USA Posts: 1,335	So, back to the topic.... Any ideas on domains?

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07-22-2005, 09:25 AM	#18 (permalink)
Michelle Be Happy... Don't Worry Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: UK Posts: 16,269	tecnobuff.com is going and it sounds great $NPs always grateful if name used or tecnoname

07-22-2005, 11:09 AM	THREAD STARTER #19 (permalink)
SimpleDomaining Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Phoenix AZ Posts: 1,628 Follow @simpledomaining	easy. NameprosLibrary.com or library.namepros.com

07-22-2005, 05:49 PM	#20 (permalink)
MissFlora Epitome.Of.Pulchritude Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 3,130	ya, library.namepros.com looks very cool for this and if this is really implemented, I am sure many domainers can help out to make up something for the newer domainers as reference purposes. Flora. __________________ %%- 29th May NP Auction at 8pm EDT/5pm PDT/12am UTC %%- Drop-by when you are free: 1-after-1 NP$ .info Auction Toronto Summer 2011: Book NOW! \| For Sale: CrazyScript.com - comes with some traffic!

07-22-2005, 07:51 PM	#22 (permalink)
TWM Web Marketing Specialist Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Texas, USA Posts: 1,335	no problem dood Last edited by TWM; 08-01-2005 at 09:57 PM.

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