Long Domain Names - Are they any good?

Iravan · 07-04-2005, 02:44 PM

Hey

I have a question about how much the value of a domain increases/decreases depending on the character length

like if I have a 17 character domain name, but it makes sense, and is easy to remember does the value of it still go down just because it is long???

Please enlighten me

Thanx

Umber

floatingworld · 07-04-2005, 02:57 PM

in general the answer to your question is yes it will go down unless the name is particularly memorable.

Iravan · 07-04-2005, 05:44 PM

What if they contain good keywords is that still ok???

Porte · 07-04-2005, 06:18 PM

Every domain name has its own value, but generally yes -- long domains has a lower value with exceptions. Like memorable, brandable, common keywords, etc..

Iravan · 07-04-2005, 07:29 PM

The information is really helpful!

Genialnames · 07-04-2005, 10:55 PM

Yes I agree with designporte,
thought a certain limit of lenght a long name could still have a strong value, 17 chars to me it is slightly long, the problem is that over 12-14 characters for the average people most of the names are not so memorable, also the meaning it is important but not only that, it is difficult to have a long name (that usuallyis build upon 2 or more words, that appear meaninful when the words are join together like it is in a domain name, unless you use an hypen but by using an hypen, or two the value it is subejct to be lowered ,of course there are exeptions also to that, but very rare.
Also to consider is that the more the name is long the most is easy to misstype it (it is true also for shorts names because many people are in a hurry).

I am curious , if it is possible I would like to know the name, I love exceptions!

Venolus · 07-04-2005, 11:04 PM

A domain can be 63 charecters long according to DNS and BIND concepts, plus if the domain is memorable, then i strongly suggest to go with your idea

ezimedia · 07-05-2005, 05:54 AM

HI

I have seen domain names that are long and they still go for a good price... I guess it all depends on the buyer at the time of the sale.. if the seller lists his name in the right place at the right time you could be lucky and get good money for your domain,

Nothing surprises me anymore after reading the DNjournal report every week for the past year....

Thanks
Tom Dahne

aing · 07-05-2005, 07:17 AM

"HI

I have seen domain names that are long and they still go for a good price... I guess it all depends on the buyer at the time of the sale.. if the seller lists his name in the right place at the right time you could be lucky and get good money for your domain,

Nothing surprises me anymore after reading the DNjournal report every week for the past year....

Thanks
Tom Dahne"

----------------------------
yeah, maybe in some reason u're right but most peoples just can remember in short things, olso in domain.

unknowngiver · 07-05-2005, 07:31 AM

ya the length doesnt matter...the words do..

dsforsaken · 07-05-2005, 09:02 AM

dont worry about the length of the domain, all you have to worry about is getting people to remember what the domain is, so try to mak eit catchy

Iravan · 07-05-2005, 12:01 PM

Great to know

Thanx so much every1

Iravan

True_Snake · 07-05-2005, 12:37 PM

I had a 43-letter domain name :: "thisisthelongestdomainnamethaticouldthinkof.c om"

. Didn't really know what to do with it, so I sold it 2-months ago for 40NP$. If it's brandable, then it's a good investemnt; if not, then not too many people are going to take the effort of typing it in,

.

True_Snake

dsforsaken · 07-05-2005, 02:30 PM

lol, what possessed you get get that domain :P

True_Snake · 07-05-2005, 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dsforsaken

lol, what possessed you get get that domain :P

Well, it was the first auction I entered here at NamePros. I was somewhat of a new domainer, and wanted the thrill to win a domain auction. So, I sniped the domain at the last minute

. It was 75NP$, I sold it 6-7 months later for 40NP$, and it was a month away from expiry.

It was a good learning experience. I'm a WAY more cautious bidder/domainer now

!

True_Snake

**Mark** · 07-05-2005, 03:39 PM

Try Reading Dukes Articles from this week ~

Quote:

Golf Domain Heads New DNJournal Top Ten and Some Long (very l-o-n-g) Domains Win Big

http://www.namepros.com/showthread.p...t=long+domains

Long Domains are not the "Perfect" Domain Name in most Peoples eyes ... But they work just fine If they are to the point with keywords and can easily be remembered or BookMarked

- Unless you go with a short brandable name (Getting Rare now as well) or want to spend a Premium price ... You may need to go this route in the .Com area from now on out.

Iravan · 07-05-2005, 04:31 PM

Ok Thanx

All this information is really useful

Thanx for helping me out

Iravan

dabb · 07-05-2005, 04:57 PM

If you plan on most of your traffic coming from search engines only and no type-ins, long names even with dashes don't seem to matter much. I've seen plenty of long domain names such as get-a-super-cheap-mortgage.com show up in the first one or two pages of Google. Of course there's no argument that a nice short catchy memorable name would be preferred. This is assuming you plan to develop the name and not just sell it.

Ringr · 07-05-2005, 05:54 PM

As long as the domain name makes sense, I think that's well enough. The length doesn't usually matter, but I personally think anything over is 20. But that doesn't neccisarily always effect the value.

Fleege · 07-06-2005, 06:20 AM

long domains are also a pain for offline marketing efforts (which when successful lead to typeins) and with type ins a lot can go wrong.

With a long domain you really have to stick to reference kind of offline media where people can hang on to your info such as biz cards, mailers. Your "one time" medias such as radio tv or outdoor are out.

This is why you dont see many mainstream companies/services with long domains.

Its important especially for web pros to not forget the offline world. It still exist. I visit it frequently..

ThreeD · 07-06-2005, 07:00 AM

catchy and word combo are the key words, not the actual length of the word. Once you develop the domain and create a name for yourself, it won't matter wether the domain is 8 letters or 17

aing · 07-11-2005, 05:51 AM

"thisisthelongestdomainnamethaticouldthinkof.c om"
Treu Snake, ur domain name is so cool, and its so hard to remember

Genialnames · 07-11-2005, 06:03 AM

There are estimators for long domain names, here is a nice resource and a copule of examples, have fun.

http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/wlg/7220

http://www.llanfairpwllgwyngyllgoger...ogogogoch.com/ This one is claimed to be the longest "unique word" domain name !

http://www.thelongestdomainnameinthe...reandmore.com/
this one is 63 character long.

thekingstooge · 07-11-2005, 11:49 PM

It really depends on the purpose of the site - for example if you want a site which people are going to visit once and then forget about then a long name is probably alright, and in some cases better. However if you want a site such as a forum which people will regularly visit then i'd suggest a short sharp domain name.

worldstar · 07-14-2005, 03:53 AM

If you have domains like HappyBirthday.com!

07-04-2005, 02:44 PM	#1 (permalink)
Iravan TSAS Host Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: www.Umber.info Posts: 2,482 132.50 NP$ (Donate)	Long Domain Names - Are they any good? Hey I have a question about how much the value of a domain increases/decreases depending on the character length like if I have a 17 character domain name, but it makes sense, and is easy to remember does the value of it still go down just because it is long??? Please enlighten me Thanx Umber __________________ FREE Traffic-ExitTraffic.us ArcadeFree.net - For Sale

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Genialnames NamePros Regular Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Italy Posts: 794 364.05 NP$ (Donate)	Yes I agree with designporte, thought a certain limit of lenght a long name could still have a strong value, 17 chars to me it is slightly long, the problem is that over 12-14 characters for the average people most of the names are not so memorable, also the meaning it is important but not only that, it is difficult to have a long name (that usuallyis build upon 2 or more words, that appear meaninful when the words are join together like it is in a domain name, unless you use an hypen but by using an hypen, or two the value it is subejct to be lowered ,of course there are exeptions also to that, but very rare. Also to consider is that the more the name is long the most is easy to misstype it (it is true also for shorts names because many people are in a hurry). I am curious , if it is possible I would like to know the name, I love exceptions! __________________ www.genialnames.com Mostly developable Domain Names...because the name says it all! Olympionic.com it's mine, it could be your!

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floatingworld dawnofthefloatingworld Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: nightlesscity Posts: 3,409 380.00 NP$ (Donate)	in general the answer to your question is yes it will go down unless the name is particularly memorable.

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Venolus NamePros Regular Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Kerala, India Posts: 861 54.50 NP$ (Donate)	A domain can be 63 charecters long according to DNS and BIND concepts, plus if the domain is memorable, then i strongly suggest to go with your idea

07-05-2005, 05:54 AM	#8 (permalink)
ezimedia Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,107 13.66 NP$ (Donate)	HI I have seen domain names that are long and they still go for a good price... I guess it all depends on the buyer at the time of the sale.. if the seller lists his name in the right place at the right time you could be lucky and get good money for your domain, Nothing surprises me anymore after reading the DNjournal report every week for the past year.... Thanks Tom Dahne __________________ Limited Offer - Directory Submitter Resale-Master Rights package Free Directory Submitter - More Free Seo Tools - Free Forum Poster Software What Is Aromatherapy? - Read All About It -

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aing NamePros Regular Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 695 40.70 NP$ (Donate)	"HI I have seen domain names that are long and they still go for a good price... I guess it all depends on the buyer at the time of the sale.. if the seller lists his name in the right place at the right time you could be lucky and get good money for your domain, Nothing surprises me anymore after reading the DNjournal report every week for the past year.... Thanks Tom Dahne" ---------------------------- yeah, maybe in some reason u're right but most peoples just can remember in short things, olso in domain.

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unknowngiver Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 2,928 1,675.13 NP$ (Donate)	ya the length doesnt matter...the words do.. __________________ B3Z.NET Proxy \|\| B5Y.NET Proxy \|\| B7J.NET Proxy \|\| B5J.NET Proxy \|\| B5L.NET Proxy cPanelHosting.com-cPanel Experts For 8 Years Hosting From $4.99 And 2 Months Free

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dsforsaken Account Closed Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 574 91.95 NP$ (Donate)	dont worry about the length of the domain, all you have to worry about is getting people to remember what the domain is, so try to mak eit catchy

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Iravan TSAS Host Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: www.Umber.info Posts: 2,482 132.50 NP$ (Donate)	Great! Great to know Thanx so much every1 Iravan __________________ FREE Traffic-ExitTraffic.us ArcadeFree.net - For Sale

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True_Snake In-House Graphic Designer Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 4,306 37,186.96 NP$ (Donate)	I had a 43-letter domain name :: "thisisthelongestdomainnamethaticouldthinkof.c om" . Didn't really know what to do with it, so I sold it 2-months ago for 40NP$. If it's brandable, then it's a good investemnt; if not, then not too many people are going to take the effort of typing it in, . True_Snake __________________ Logos:PM ME! OVECHKIN.INFO! Rising Star!

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dsforsaken Account Closed Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 574 91.95 NP$ (Donate)	lol, what possessed you get get that domain :P

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Iravan TSAS Host Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: www.Umber.info Posts: 2,482 132.50 NP$ (Donate)	Alright!!! Ok Thanx All this information is really useful Thanx for helping me out Iravan __________________ FREE Traffic-ExitTraffic.us ArcadeFree.net - For Sale

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dabb NamePros Regular Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 343 423.50 NP$ (Donate)	If you plan on most of your traffic coming from search engines only and no type-ins, long names even with dashes don't seem to matter much. I've seen plenty of long domain names such as get-a-super-cheap-mortgage.com show up in the first one or two pages of Google. Of course there's no argument that a nice short catchy memorable name would be preferred. This is assuming you plan to develop the name and not just sell it. __________________ Berlin Stock Market Quotes - Low Float Stocks - High Short Interest Stocks

07-05-2005, 05:54 PM	#19 (permalink)
Ringr Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,391 1,090.86 NP$ (Donate)	As long as the domain name makes sense, I think that's well enough. The length doesn't usually matter, but I personally think anything over is 20. But that doesn't neccisarily always effect the value.

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Fleege NamePros Regular Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: USA Posts: 953 988.00 NP$ (Donate)	long domains are also a pain for offline marketing efforts (which when successful lead to typeins) and with type ins a lot can go wrong. With a long domain you really have to stick to reference kind of offline media where people can hang on to your info such as biz cards, mailers. Your "one time" medias such as radio tv or outdoor are out. This is why you dont see many mainstream companies/services with long domains. Its important especially for web pros to not forget the offline world. It still exist. I visit it frequently.. __________________ fleege.com - Domainer \| art director \| copywriter DomainParkingGuru.com NameDrive Success \| ViralJunction.com Market yourself effectively & free

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ThreeD Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Online Posts: 1,905 389.00 NP$ (Donate)	catchy and word combo are the key words, not the actual length of the word. Once you develop the domain and create a name for yourself, it won't matter wether the domain is 8 letters or 17 __________________ * Losers make excuses - winners make it happen *

07-11-2005, 05:51 AM	#22 (permalink)
aing NamePros Regular Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 695 40.70 NP$ (Donate)	"thisisthelongestdomainnamethaticouldthinkof.c om" Treu Snake, ur domain name is so cool, and its so hard to remember

07-11-2005, 06:03 AM	#23 (permalink)
Genialnames NamePros Regular Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Italy Posts: 794 364.05 NP$ (Donate)	There are estimators for long domain names, here is a nice resource and a copule of examples, have fun. http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/wlg/7220 http://www.llanfairpwllgwyngyllgoger...ogogogoch.com/ This one is claimed to be the longest "unique word" domain name ! http://www.thelongestdomainnameinthe...reandmore.com/ this one is 63 character long. __________________ www.genialnames.com Mostly developable Domain Names...because the name says it all! Olympionic.com it's mine, it could be your!

07-11-2005, 11:49 PM	#24 (permalink)
thekingstooge NamePros Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 73 0.00 NP$ (Donate)	It really depends on the purpose of the site - for example if you want a site which people are going to visit once and then forget about then a long name is probably alright, and in some cases better. However if you want a site such as a forum which people will regularly visit then i'd suggest a short sharp domain name.

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worldstar Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 3,447 553.58 NP$ (Donate)	If you have domains like HappyBirthday.com!

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