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Old 06-06-2005, 03:05 PM THREAD STARTER               #1 (permalink)
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They just sent me a not too friendly letter to let me know that a domain they claim is mine (which I have never owned) will now expire unless I pay:

Well here are their options:::::::::::::

Ohh - I just read the fine print and it says that copying and/or distributing content of their email is "prohibited"
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Anyway - they want $50 for a renewal on this name I do not own.

Anyone had similar experience ??

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I did a little digging and find the domain in question is owned by someone in Hawaii and is good until January 2006

I also replied (maybe I should not have) to the renewal request that I do not and have never owned that domain.

No response so far.
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its a scam man lol. they can't send you an email and claim it is proprietary information. if it is sent to you unsolicited, it is public domain and therefor can be posted here (especially since you've never agreed to any non-disclosure terms).

they dont want you to post it cause then "word" would get out about who they are and about thier little scam.

if your still loath to post it, PM it to me and I'll post it... let them try to sue me, the man of no fear
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Originally Posted by LeeRyder

they dont want you to post it cause then "word" would get out about who they are and about thier little scam.
I agree.

Looks like there's a new scam out there ..
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Originally Posted by domainsusi
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They just sent me a not too friendly letter to let me know that a domain they claim is mine (which I have never owned) will now expire unless I pay:

Well here are their options:::::::::::::

Ohh - I just read the fine print and it says that copying and/or distributing content of their email is "prohibited"
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Anyway - they want $50 for a renewal on this name I do not own.

Anyone had similar experience ??

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I had gotten one of these in the snail mail and I opened it and tossed it because I knew it was a result of whois digging.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/domain-name-discussion/96241-who-are-these-guys.html

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I've gotten about a hundred of these in snail mail. Looks like someone is now switching over to email. Guess they're updating.

It's nothing more than a scam IMHO, delete it and move on.
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Received one (snail mail) today and shredded it (wish I hadn't now ... to compare notes)!
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interesting, I'm thinking whoever this is is a member here: noted from this thread:

http://www.namepros.com/showpost.php...35&postcount=1 **Note MyWay.com**

search MyWay.com here and find redhippo posting free emails for namepro members in this thread:

http://namepros.com/showthread.php?t...ight=myway.com
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=96241

so the question is, does RedHippo still own this site and if so, will he provide us the scammers information (EVERYTHING)?

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please provide the whole email (header included)
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Here is one I recieved.


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9251-8 Yonge Street Suite 968
Richmond Hill, ON L4C 9T3
Phone: 1-416-840-3690
Fax: 1-718-208-4213


????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=96241


Please be advised that the above noted domain name has now become available for registration.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=96241
Consequently the possibility of conflicting domain registration may occur.


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IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE UNITED STATES LEGAL CODE
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TITLE 15, Sec 1125. False descriptions, and dilution of Trademarks and the Uniform Domain Name Dispute Resolution Policy (UDRP)
Be advised: Protecting a domain name registrant or trademark owner from confusing and/or conflicting domain name registrations is not the responsibility of the domain and trademark registration processes. In the event of a registration of the above noted domain by a third party, the UDRP may be applied under the following conditions.

Evidence of Registration and Use in Bad Faith. - For the purposes of Paragraph 4(a)(iii), the following circumstances, in particular but without limitation, if found by the Panel to be present, shall be evidence of the registration and use of a domain name in bad faith:

(i) circumstances indicating that the domain name registered or acquired the domain name primarily for the purpose of selling, renting, or otherwise transferring the domain name registration to the complainant who is the owner of the trademark or service mark or a competitor of that complainant, for valuable consideration in excess of your documented out-of-pocket costs directly related to the domain name; or
(ii) the domain name has been registered in order to prevent the owner of the trademark or service mark from reflecting the mark in a corresponding domain name, provided that you have engaged in a pattern of such conduct; or
(iii) the domain name has been registered primarily for the purpose of disrupting the business of a competitor; or (iv) by using the domain name, registrant has intentionally attempted to attract, for commercial gain, Internet users to their web site or other on-line location, by creating a likelihood of confusion with the complainant's mark as to the source, sponsorship, affiliation, or endorsement or your web site or location or of a product or service of a web site or location.

In addition to remedies provided for by the URDP, section 4a (1)(2)(3) & b (1)(2)(3)(4) existing registrants, trademark and service mark owners are provided by DUC with a first right to use preference on domain names that are identical with new ccTLD, TLD extentions, or domain names that are confusingly similar to their own.

Privatization of domain registrations and renewals now allow the consumer the choice of registrars when initially registering and also when renewing a domain name. Domain name holders are not obligated to renew their domain name with their current registrar or with us. Review our prices and decide for yourself. You are no obligation to make a payment unless you accept this offer. This is not a bill, it is a solicitation should you decide to register the above noted domain with us.

You are required to advise the Domain Update Center of your intent to license this name on or before the expiration of this notice.

Note: you may disregard this notice. If you disregard this notice or fail to reply:
(a) The licensing rights of this domain name may be assigned to any other applicant,
(b) DUC and or any ICANN accredited registrar will not be liable for loss of domain name license, identical or confusingly similar use of your company's domain name; or interruption of business activity or business losses.




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PLEASE READ CAREFULLY
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If you fail to reply to DUC this domain may be registered by any third party without further notice. You must advise us of your intent to (a) secure this domain name or (b) release your first right to use preference.


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Call 1-416-840-3690
During our business hours (Monday through Friday 9:00am to 5:00pm EST.)

Or fill out the form attached below and fax to 1-718-208-4213
ORDER FORM (Please make necessary changes)

Please check the options you wish to apply:

[ ] NEW Registration of www. domain.
[ ] 1 Year .......... $50
[ ] 2 Year .......... $85
[ ] 5 Year .......... $160 (Recommended)
[ ] 10 Year .......... $300 (Best Value)

[ ] Other domain ____________________ .
[ ] 1 Year .......... $50
[ ] 2 Year .......... $85
[ ] 5 Year .......... $160 (Recommended)
[ ] 10 Year .......... $300 (Best Value)

[ ] Search Engine Submission $40 "We guarantee your website listing on the top search engines for 1 yr., Satisfaction is guaranteed or your money back".

Total $ __________



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I forgot the little warning....


The information in this letter contains confidential and/or legally privileged information from the notification processing department of the DUC. This information is intended only for the use of the individual(s) named above. Email miranda5@myway.com if you do not want to receive further updates from DUC. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that disclosure, copying, distribution or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents for this letter is strictly prohibited.




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MWS, what we would really like to see are the headers to the email... can you post those as well?
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Originally Posted by LeeRyder
interesting, I'm thinking whoever this is is a member here: noted from this thread:
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=96241

http://www.namepros.com/showpost.php...35&postcount=1 **Note MyWay.com**

search MyWay.com here and find redhippo posting free emails for namepro members in this thread:

http://namepros.com/showthread.php?t...ight=myway.com

so the question is, does RedHippo still own this site and if so, will he provide us the scammers information (EVERYTHING)?

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Lee, the My Way service is part of Ask Jeeves, Inc. I believe Hippo was just posting that thread as news of the upgrade of accounts by My Way.
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Originally Posted by mws
Here is one I recieved.


Domain Update Center
9251-8 Yonge Street Suite 968
Richmond Hill, ON L4C 9T3
Phone: 1-416-840-3690
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=96241
Fax: 1-718-208-4213
.........................
Yes - that's it exactly

How can they do this?

I suppose they would just take the money and scram - and because the domain is not even in my name, I would have no recourse.

Disgusting - I feel like I want to report this to some authority if more of you have received similar solicitations for names you do not own.

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I've gotten that email within the last week, and also regarding a name I don't own (never did). Also got one yesterday offering to buy a name from me that I don't own (never did).

Yes, too many scams...
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Sounds like a Domain Registry of America clone...
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I have received three emails from them, all of which relate to dot info versions of a name where I have one of the other extensions.

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