A company has tried to transfer one of my domains...

DomainSpring · 10-07-2003, 12:41 PM

Today I received an e-mail:

Quote:

A request has been received to transfer the domain XXXXXXX.com to XXXXXXXXX an authorized Reseller of the domain Registrar OpenSRS/Tucows. This request was entered at Tue Oct 7 by XXXXXX XXXXXXX....

I looked up the name of the requestor, and it is the CEO of a company. The company seems pretty large, has a management team of 5, and the individual has his name mentioned in a few random sites, including some press releases, and a business magazine article.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/domain-name-discussion/8133-company-has-tried-transfer-one-my.html

What do you think the motivation of trying to transfer the domain was, and would it be wise for me to contact the individual and try to negotiate?

Thanks

Sharpy · 10-07-2003, 12:44 PM

Call the S.O.B. and ask him wtf he's doing

RJ · 10-07-2003, 12:49 PM

Before you get mad, consider it could have been a typo on his part. It's possible they own a similar name.

Since you do have the guy's name and company info, write or call him to ask him. If you're open to selling the name, this could be a good chance to do so.

Jeff · 10-07-2003, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DomainSpring
What do you think the motivation of trying to transfer the domain was, and would it be wise for me to contact the individual and try to negotiate?

You should definitely establish contact here, IMHO.
If he is, in fact, interested in YOUR domain name, and no mistakes were made (for instance an incorrect spelling or extension, what have you) ... you'll need to clearly tell him that he has made a very unwise judgement call in attempting to transfer the domain, and then "negotiate" if he is truly interested in the domain name. Make it worth your while.

Best of Luck here.

Quote:

Originally posted by Sharpy
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=8133
Call the S.O.B. and ask him wtf he's doing

Or this!

DomainSpring · 10-07-2003, 01:01 PM

Thanks for your input everyone. I figured it could be an honest mistake - but even if it was an underhanded attempt to grab my domain, I guess I'm not too upset since I didn't fall for it. I will try to contact him and see what is up

Jeff · 10-07-2003, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DomainSpring
... but even if it was an underhanded attempt to grab my domain, I guess I'm not too upset since I didn't fall for it ...

Bingo!
Makes one wonder, though ... how many of these types of things (intentional or even by honest mistake(s)) occur over the course of a month, months, a year, years. I would assume at least a small portion end up getting transferred in the end.

Thoughts?
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=8133
Good Luck with everything here, DomainSpring.

Matt · 10-07-2003, 01:22 PM

Yeah, DEFINATELY keep us updated DomainSpring. Would be VERY interested to know what he was upto

I would say due to the "Emotional Inconvienience cause on your part" he should offer you $25,000 for the domain

heheh

jj2ii3344 · 10-07-2003, 02:20 PM

Very interesting!
Keep me posted as well DomainSpring!!

DomainSpring · 10-07-2003, 04:27 PM

Here's what I got back (this is the entire message):
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=8133

Quote:

We were transferring dozens of domain names over the past few months. In the transfer process it appears that the domain registrar let this one back into the public domain.

...which still doesn't explain why they would still try to transfer it now since I've had it for a few months. I think they realized they were caught, and wrote this to save face

rb · 10-07-2003, 06:14 PM

sounds like they owned a lot of domain names that they were transferring over a few per month (maybe from some list) and didn't realize that some of the domains had expired and dropped.

No harm no foul

FruitFish · 10-08-2003, 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sharpy
Call the S.O.B. and ask him wtf he's doing

lol...good stuff!

Cyphix · 10-10-2003, 05:14 AM

This has been happening to me too over the last month.. one guy has been trying to transfer a name godaddy recently got me.

He has attempted it five times now.

I did some research & it turns out it is the previous owner who keeps requesting it..

How can I find out more info on who they are? The company is Commerceville, LLC I also have his name but won't disclose that.

DomainSpring · 10-10-2003, 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cyphix
This has been happening to me too over the last month.. one guy has been trying to transfer a name godaddy recently got me.

He has attempted it five times now.

I did some research & it turns out it is the previous owner who keeps requesting it..

How can I find out more info on who they are? The company is Commerceville, LLC I also have his name but won't disclose that.

Cyphix,
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=8133

Try searching for your domain (the company's old site) through Google. If it finds a match, try the "Cached" link to see if any contact info is listed. There are probably easier ways, but that's how I like to do it.

Cyphix · 10-10-2003, 12:14 PM

Yeah.. I have their contact info & all that (through whowas) but was just wondering how you managed to find out he was CEO & their company size & such. :-D

DomainSpring · 10-16-2003, 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cyphix
Yeah.. I have their contact info & all that (through whowas) but was just wondering how you managed to find out he was CEO & their company size & such. :-D

The individual's name and company was in the transfer request, so I just browsed their site

tlacaelel · 10-17-2003, 11:16 PM

Just put a REGISTRAR-LOCK on all your domains and forget about it.

We had a recent instance where somebody kept trying to grab our domain CINEMA.NET. (Yes, I know it's a good name.)

The request kept arriving (6 times in 6 days!). It provided only one link Click on the following link to confirm the domain transfer request for these domains.

There was no link to deny the transfer!!

And they do not identify the requesting party in the message. It is an absolutely unprofessional and unacceptably insufficient message accompanying a domain transfer. For example: what if you were expecting to transfer a name (a customer said they were going to do it sometime soon) and an unauthorized transfer request just happened to occur before your customer got around to doing their legitimate request?! You think "Oh there's that transfer request, it doesn't say who it's going to, but I guess that's the one we're expecting so go ahead and ACK IT". Boom, there goes your domain to some unauthorized party.

The requests were coming from RegisterAPI.com (dotster d/b/a), and there was no way to respond to them!. We demanded an explanation and got an autoreply. The "CustomerCare" autoreply lists many FAQs, and then says "If after searching our Knowledge Base you still cannot find your answer, please log into your account and click on the "Ask A Question" tab to submit a question to our Customer Care team."

We are not their farking customer! How can we log in to an account which we do not possess in order to ask them a question that they should be required to answer?!

There should be a law!

Dotster d/b/a RegisterAPI.com is ABSOLUTELY OUTRAGEOUSLY UNPROFESSIONAL in this email conduct of domain transfers!!
[list=1][*]No identification of the party requesting the transfer.[*]No link to deny the transfer[*]No way to contact them[/list=1]

Unfarkingbelievable!

/flame off/

Anyway, back to my original point ... just LOCK your domains and forget about it. It's not worth wasting the time.

Another instance occurred a few years ago when somebody did actually grab INDEX.NET from us. Needless to say, I was upset. I started waking people up at midnight. The transferring registrar was some small outfit in Illinois, and they woke up senior staff to get to the bottom of it. It turned out that it really was a typo. A staffer had misread IINDEX.NET and just entered INDEX.NET instead. The IINDEX.NET domain did actually exist, and they faxed paperwork over which was satisfactory in documenting the nature of the error. They were profusely apologetic and transferred it back the next day.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=8133

So you never know, such transfers could be from malicious domain hijackers, amateurish morons, or just unintended typos from nice people. But if your domains are protected from transfers (even by you clicking on ACK links in emails), then you have nothing to worry about ...

and you can sleep well at night

just like I'm about to do ...

Cyphix · 10-18-2003, 06:00 AM

Actually my domain was/is locked.

lol · 10-18-2003, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by -RJ-
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=8133
Before you get mad, consider it could have been a typo on his part. It's possible they own a similar name.

Since you do have the guy's name and company info, write or call him to ask him. If you're open to selling the name, this could be a good chance to do so.

That's good advice. Accidentally mis-typing a name--especially if it is long--is quite feasible. I would not be alarmed unless the same request to transfer kept resurfacing. Even then, register-lock is a good failsafe.

Elefekt · 10-20-2003, 02:09 PM

find out first but you are in position for a payday

Lord · 10-20-2003, 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DomainSpring
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=8133
Here's what I got back (this is the entire message):

...which still doesn't explain why they would still try to transfer it now since I've had it for a few months. I think they realized they were caught, and wrote this to save face

so anymore news updates on that?

jj2ii3344 · 10-20-2003, 08:16 PM

I am also interested!!

DomainSpring · 10-20-2003, 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lord
so anymore news updates on that?

No, that was it...they did not seem interested in getting the domain back.

doubledee999 · 10-22-2003, 07:27 PM

I get these unauthorized transfer requests about once a month., I did have someone (that owned alot of domains) keep on trying to transfer a certain name I have., First he tried to stargate, then dotster, then tried using some foreign non english websites., I have had two domains over time transfered without any email approval luckily they were junk names.

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rb NamePros Regular Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: California Posts: 566 Follow @domainjunkies	sounds like they owned a lot of domain names that they were transferring over a few per month (maybe from some list) and didn't realize that some of the domains had expired and dropped. No harm no foul __________________ Certified Domain Name Junky

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Cyphix NamePros Regular Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 637	This has been happening to me too over the last month.. one guy has been trying to transfer a name godaddy recently got me. He has attempted it five times now. I did some research & it turns out it is the previous owner who keeps requesting it.. How can I find out more info on who they are? The company is Commerceville, LLC I also have his name but won't disclose that. __________________ 538k Lyrics Database Available - Only $49 - Check Here

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Cyphix NamePros Regular Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 637	Yeah.. I have their contact info & all that (through whowas) but was just wondering how you managed to find out he was CEO & their company size & such. :-D __________________ 538k Lyrics Database Available - Only $49 - Check Here

10-17-2003, 11:16 PM	#16 (permalink)
tlacaelel New Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: cincinnati, ohio Posts: 10	Just put a REGISTRAR-LOCK on all your domains and forget about it. We had a recent instance where somebody kept trying to grab our domain CINEMA.NET. (Yes, I know it's a good name.) The request kept arriving (6 times in 6 days!). It provided only one link Click on the following link to confirm the domain transfer request for these domains. There was no link to deny the transfer!! And they do not identify the requesting party in the message. It is an absolutely unprofessional and unacceptably insufficient message accompanying a domain transfer. For example: what if you were expecting to transfer a name (a customer said they were going to do it sometime soon) and an unauthorized transfer request just happened to occur before your customer got around to doing their legitimate request?! You think "Oh there's that transfer request, it doesn't say who it's going to, but I guess that's the one we're expecting so go ahead and ACK IT". Boom, there goes your domain to some unauthorized party. The requests were coming from RegisterAPI.com (dotster d/b/a), and there was no way to respond to them!. We demanded an explanation and got an autoreply. The "CustomerCare" autoreply lists many FAQs, and then says "If after searching our Knowledge Base you still cannot find your answer, please log into your account and click on the "Ask A Question" tab to submit a question to our Customer Care team." We are not their farking customer! How can we log in to an account which we do not possess in order to ask them a question that they should be required to answer?! There should be a law! Dotster d/b/a RegisterAPI.com is ABSOLUTELY OUTRAGEOUSLY UNPROFESSIONAL in this email conduct of domain transfers!! [list=1][]No identification of the party requesting the transfer.[]No link to deny the transfer[]No way to contact them[/list=1] Unfarkingbelievable! /flame off/ Anyway, back to my original point ... just LOCK your domains and forget about it. It's not worth wasting the time. Another instance occurred a few years ago when somebody did actually grab INDEX.NET from us. Needless to say, I was upset. I started waking people up at midnight. The transferring registrar was some small outfit in Illinois, and they woke up senior staff to get to the bottom of it. It turned out that it really was a typo. A staffer had misread IINDEX.NET and just entered INDEX.NET instead. The IINDEX.NET domain did actually exist, and they faxed paperwork over which was satisfactory in documenting the nature of the error. They were profusely apologetic and transferred it back the next day. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=8133 So you never know, such transfers could be from malicious domain hijackers, amateurish morons, or just unintended typos from nice people. But if your domains are protected from transfers (even by you clicking on ACK links in emails), then you have nothing to worry about ... and you can sleep well at night just like I'm about to do ... Last edited by tlacaelel; 10-17-2003 at 11:28 PM.*

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10-22-2003, 07:27 PM	#23 (permalink)
doubledee999 NamePros Regular Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Boston Posts: 818	I get these unauthorized transfer requests about once a month., I did have someone (that owned alot of domains) keep on trying to transfer a certain name I have., First he tried to stargate, then dotster, then tried using some foreign non english websites., I have had two domains over time transfered without any email approval luckily they were junk names.

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