Bannen

I'm seeing banners by eCop.com starting to show on this forum; I'm always open to a good escrow service that is built with domainers in mind.

Would like to hear from anyone who uses them, particularly about speed, ease of transaction, efficiency, and especially security for both seller and payer.

If anyone has used them, I'd appreciate any comments, including how well your transaction finally finished, using their service.
thank you.

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mis_chiff

He didn't ask who the owner is, asking if anyone has tried it.

opalxx

I bought one domain through them. No probs and extremely good communication etc. I would certainly use them again.

the_poet

I've used it for a couple of Cax.com sales, overall good service.

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Bannen

Glad to hear of positive experiences so far. I have concerns because, though the site looks professional, on every page there are glaring grammar mistakes; which in itself seems like no big deal, but usually a large, secure project like this has enough solid financial backing to hire content writers who can get it right, good English and professional-sounding.
On this site the English is not so good, and it sounds like it's been written by a teenager who's trying to sound professional.

So, I was wondering just how professional the service actually was. And how secure.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/domain-name-discussion/738010-ecop-com-please-report-any-experiences.html

Sounds good for domainers, so far; also let me know if anyone has used eCop for a transaction with an end user. - though with the amateurish writing on the site, I'd feel trepidatious at recommending them to an end user I'm selling a name to...
... the eCop site is about money transactions, and with money transactions the customer confidence needs to be very high; their site so far seems a little el-cheapo in feel, and I'd like to hear of more successful transactions before I'd try them out. Or rather, I might give them a shot for a smaller sale, say under $300, and with another domainer as the buyer, to test the waters. So far I wouldn't go to them for a larger sale, nor for a sale to an end user.

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sdsinc

François (the owner and founder of domaining.com) is French, perhaps he wrote the text himself.

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the_poet

Definitely. In the past I have reported grammatical errors which François fixed.

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Bannen

Ah; he needs to go past that stage if he truly wants client-confidence. Right now it's at the stage where we insiders/domainers can say 'kudos, he's trying hard, producing a good service'; a little rewriting and redesigning by more savvy people would take the eCop site/service across that line, so an outsider/end user who has no experience with domains can immediately say 'this looks totally professional and secure'.

I like his prices and his described services, but right now it seems too much like a 'this is our domainer buddy's site' rather than 'this is run by a professional corporation, with strict and efficient security'.

Note that I'm not shooting the site down; I like what he's doing, like the prices and services, and I'd really like it to look and feel a little more pro so I can feel confident using it, as well as recommending it to both domainer and end user alike. Just had an offer for one of my names (via email, not Sedo) by a higher-up in one of the big 4 financial tech companies in the US... would have loved to have said 'let's do this through eCop' due to their superior rates... but I just couldn't send a total professional like that guy to eCop, had to send him to Sedo, with those much higher commissions
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=738010
So, I'm rooting for eCop to go that extra mile and be a site I can send a professional non-domainer to. It's about 75% there, it's at the stage where I might try it out on a small trade with another domainer... but I'd need to hear a lot more positive input before I'd send an end user there. And I don't think 'big' domainers will take it seriously yet... without that upgrade.

Jury's still out. Welcoming more comments about eCop

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RJ

eCop is trying to establish itself as an attractive choice for domainers. Sedo and Moniker also have proven too expensive on transactions where I am bringing the buyer and I for one welcome a viable competitor to Escrow.com.

Those participating in this week's NamePros live auction will have the opportunity to try eCop out for free. We should be hearing more feedback soon!

kosvam

I used it few months ago when they had an offer at $5 per service.
It was good experience overall, but I can't be sure that it can protect you as well as escrow.com from scammers.

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Aggro

No escrow license. Unlicensed. unbonded. Unaudited

Show us the financial accounts of this entity..
What - you say it's merely backed by $2 paid up share capital...? LOL

May be fine for low priced transactions among domainers..

For larger transactions, wouldn't trust it.
It works...until it doesn't.

Why take a chance to save a few $ compared to aproper licensed, bonded escrow (on both sides)...

Caveat emptor!

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scott_jay

I tried their service 2 months ago and I was happy with it. Didn't have the chance to go for it one more time, though.

DomainingCom

Hello,


Regarding English, it's true my mother languages are French and Spanish and my level in English is certainly basic. I written the text of all the site but it has been proofread many times by english friends, domainers (you have a proof above), and part by an American attorney. What's terrible is each time a new person prooread he pest about the bad english, and the next to proofread his correction says the same. Looks crazy!
Now if there is something really horrible, it's possible it's a new sentence still not proofread, but almost nothing has been added lately so this looks strange. If you find something shocking like that you will be welcome to drop me a note and I will fix asap.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=738010


Regarding security, we also escrow domains (not only the money) and we have a series of measures in place to fight identity usurpation (what is not done by competitors until now).


I read someone saying he will not trust ECOP for big sales, it's not our main target today, plus it's for small/medium priced transactions we are very competitive.

I will also add we secure all kind of domain deals that others don't secure like lease, exchange, lending, financing. And from $20!

In a side note Rome has not been build in one week, I estimate a full year still needed to have the site/service as dreamed.

CureCancer

interesting

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Bannen

Francois, thank you for jumping in and contributing to the thread. There are still many issues, but as you said: you have a dream for your site and service/s, and when you're doing most of it by yourself, it takes a lot of time. It would be nice if one day you could build it to a very secure/bonded service.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=738010

Also, as I'm a qualified writer/editor/proofreader I'd like to help with your writing. However my time/energy over the next 3 months are going towards a large project. Maybe after that if I'm in the mood I'll give your site a going-over

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Francois,

If you are really serious about garnering a solid English-speaking business audience and customer base, then you should consider hiring a native speaker/writer of English to rewrite/edit your text.

And you need to pay that writer a fair wage.

Editing is labor intensive, and if you try to get someone to work for free or cheap, well, you'll get what you pay for.

English speakers are notoriously picky when it comes to less-than-perfect English, which is somewhat ironic in that most of us are monolingual.

However, I think it boils down to the fact that spammers and scammers tend to be non-native speakers of English, so we are likely to view all less-than-perfect English text as spammy.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=738010

From all accounts, you seem to be an honest, hardworking individual who has built up quite a thriving domaining business, but a business person outside of domaining is not likely to know that, so he/she may judge your business harshly and unfairly because of poor text presentation.

In any case, I wish you the best in your endeavors.

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Perfectly said, W

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DomainingCom

I paid a popular attorney of the domain industry to proof read my public/visible pages (in addition to friends/domainers sometimes send me a note for a typo or a minor correction). This is why it's crazy because I suppose all the comments are for content visible without have to log in, so about text that is supposed to have already been revised.

I plan to hire another profesional within few months when the next additions/improvements will be live because I understand and share that a poor english can hurt this service.

Thanks for remind me this fact, for the suggestion to kindly assist me and for the words of support.

namenut

I'm sorry .... the copy is poor. Do not use your proof readers any longer. Find another service. Ask any one of "us" here to help.

Please do not take this as malicious I volunteer to assist in any way I can. I wont post the errors but certainly have many for you to correct.

Bake me some brownies and I'll glean the entire site. I like "nuts" in my brownies.

NN

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