Remove Indexed Pages from Search Engines and Blacklist a Domain ?

John1968 · 02-25-2005, 11:05 AM

Our business website forums are running since 2 year now we have a problem with the domain name, person who registered the domain had internal disputes and started his own business on the same domain name. Legally we are not a registered company and do
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/domain-name-discussion/72032-remove-indexed-pages-search-engines-blacklist.html
not have any legal documents sharing the ownership rights for the domain or the site contents.

Other person owns the domain name (since we registered) and we (staff of our forums) owns the database and site content, which has been managed completely by me.

Domain Owner had some personal issues with 1 staff member; who tookeover the
domain name started his own forums now. We are left domain less...

Our forum member database is 17000
Page Ranking is 7.0 for main page and 5.0 for forums
We receive 50000 unique via Google everyday.

Our Staff Members have spend a lot of time configuring the forums (more then 1000 hours) and now all our efforts (includes lots of combined hours of work/time by all the moderators/staff members) have gone for a toss.

The old domain has more then 250000 pages indexed via Google, is there anyway we can persuade Google to convert change these indexed pages to new domain?
OR
Can Google remove this dead links? Since this domain owner is getting fake hits via dead links since all the links are pointing to our content only.

We tried to have a negotiation with the domain owner but he is not ready to share the domain... He has taken over the domain completely to a new site, and now earning all alone with Google ad sense. (All dead links on Google indexes)
All the old links pointing to his domain are now dead, since he does not has the database or any site content.

We need some help on this, we will loose 2 years of our handwork due to this domain abuser. We do not want this person to be happy with other work.. , earning the entire funds from google adsense all alone on the work done by others..

Thanks,
John

IAmAllanShore · 02-25-2005, 11:15 AM

Seems like there is enough money involved to get yourself a lawyer...
You don't necessarily need a formal, written relationship for their to be a created relationship and therefore a claim.
Aside from this, Google won't move links over immediately for you, you're somewhat SOL on the corrective tech measures front.
BOL,
Allan

Tippy · 02-25-2005, 11:15 AM

Perhaps Google would help if you had some type of written contract or something with this other person claiming you had a partnership, its a tough one...

If the Domain is in his name I dont see how a lawyer could help, I mean if he can prove he owns the Domain what claim do you have to it.

John1968 · 02-25-2005, 11:20 AM

Originally Posted by IAmAllanShore

Seems like there is enough money involved to get yourself a lawyer...
You don't necessarily need a formal, written relationship for their to be a created relationship and therefore a claim.
Aside from this, Google won't move links over immediately for you, you're somewhat SOL on the corrective tech measures front.
BOL,
Allan

I contacted the ICANN-Registrar, a friend works as a tech-lead there, he finally after lot of researched said, he wont be able to help us out with this domain name..
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=72032

As there is no trademark setup, no legal bonds between the business, the domain was registered by the owner individually..

We do not want this ABUSER to use our hardwork.. we are looking for every possible measure, to blacklist them with search engines which gets 50000 uniques per day for this domain name.

The domain owner has no content with him, entire content belongs to the site staff only.

If you shall be able to guide us, we will save years of work. more then several 1000 hours going as a waste to someone .. :/

Thank you for your reply,

IAmAllanShore · 02-25-2005, 11:31 AM

I must stress that I suggest you find a local lawyer to help you. 1,000's of hours don't come cheap, I know, so you deserve to do all you can to get your work back.
Now, the fact that you all both worked on the same project/item/business could give you some merit to seek relief. If it's important enough to you, which it seems to be, you need to find someone able to help you in this highly specialized area.
BOL,
Allan

John1968 · 02-25-2005, 02:39 PM

Originally Posted by IAmAllanShore

I must stress that I suggest you find a local lawyer to help you. 1,000's of hours don't come cheap, I know, so you deserve to do all you can to get your work back.
Now, the fact that you all both worked on the same project/item/business could give you some merit to seek relief. If it's important enough to you, which it seems to be, you need to find someone able to help you in this highly specialized area.
BOL,
Allan

can you guide me towards some online services / lawyers who can help in our case ?

IAmAllanShore · 02-25-2005, 04:50 PM

Your best bet will be to call your local bar association, and ask for a referral.
http://www.lacba.org/
-Allan

Badger · 02-25-2005, 05:26 PM

Get this thread transferred to the legals forum and the guys there will help you.....

Members wlspro and Jberryhill (i believe (well at least know in Jberryhill's case)) are leading domain/internet lawyers who have represented a lot of clients in this area...

Im sure he wont mind me posting his link (seeing as though he has posted it here himself before)

http://www.ddhs.com/en_us/JohnBBerryhill.html

Good luck with your endeavours

Ian

John1968 · 02-26-2005, 12:44 AM

thank you friends for your time to help us.
we just thought if we can blacklist the domain someway so the wicket owner wont be able to use our hardwork.

02-25-2005, 11:05 AM	THREAD STARTER #1 (permalink)
John1968 New Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 24	Remove Indexed Pages from Search Engines and Blacklist a Domain ? Our business website forums are running since 2 year now we have a problem with the domain name, person who registered the domain had internal disputes and started his own business on the same domain name. Legally we are not a registered company and do ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/domain-name-discussion/72032-remove-indexed-pages-search-engines-blacklist.html not have any legal documents sharing the ownership rights for the domain or the site contents. Other person owns the domain name (since we registered) and we (staff of our forums) owns the database and site content, which has been managed completely by me. Domain Owner had some personal issues with 1 staff member; who tookeover the domain name started his own forums now. We are left domain less... Our forum member database is 17000 Page Ranking is 7.0 for main page and 5.0 for forums We receive 50000 unique via Google everyday. Our Staff Members have spend a lot of time configuring the forums (more then 1000 hours) and now all our efforts (includes lots of combined hours of work/time by all the moderators/staff members) have gone for a toss. The old domain has more then 250000 pages indexed via Google, is there anyway we can persuade Google to convert change these indexed pages to new domain? OR Can Google remove this dead links? Since this domain owner is getting fake hits via dead links since all the links are pointing to our content only. We tried to have a negotiation with the domain owner but he is not ready to share the domain... He has taken over the domain completely to a new site, and now earning all alone with Google ad sense. (All dead links on Google indexes) All the old links pointing to his domain are now dead, since he does not has the database or any site content. We need some help on this, we will loose 2 years of our handwork due to this domain abuser. We do not want this person to be happy with other work.. , earning the entire funds from google adsense all alone on the work done by others.. Thanks, John

02-25-2005, 11:15 AM	#2 (permalink)
IAmAllanShore NamePros Expert Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Esse quam videri Posts: 8,332	Seems like there is enough money involved to get yourself a lawyer... You don't necessarily need a formal, written relationship for their to be a created relationship and therefore a claim. Aside from this, Google won't move links over immediately for you, you're somewhat SOL on the corrective tech measures front. BOL, Allan __________________ Something Witty This Way Comes...

02-25-2005, 11:31 AM	#5 (permalink)
IAmAllanShore NamePros Expert Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Esse quam videri Posts: 8,332	I must stress that I suggest you find a local lawyer to help you. 1,000's of hours don't come cheap, I know, so you deserve to do all you can to get your work back. Now, the fact that you all both worked on the same project/item/business could give you some merit to seek relief. If it's important enough to you, which it seems to be, you need to find someone able to help you in this highly specialized area. BOL, Allan __________________ Something Witty This Way Comes...

02-25-2005, 04:50 PM	#7 (permalink)
IAmAllanShore NamePros Expert Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Esse quam videri Posts: 8,332	Your best bet will be to call your local bar association, and ask for a referral. http://www.lacba.org/ -Allan __________________ Something Witty This Way Comes...

02-25-2005, 05:26 PM	#8 (permalink)
Badger Ravaged By Age Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PST + 8 Posts: 3,502	Get this thread transferred to the legals forum and the guys there will help you..... Members wlspro and Jberryhill (i believe (well at least know in Jberryhill's case)) are leading domain/internet lawyers who have represented a lot of clients in this area... Im sure he wont mind me posting his link (seeing as though he has posted it here himself before) http://www.ddhs.com/en_us/JohnBBerryhill.html Good luck with your endeavours Ian __________________ iMODO :: ErrorMatic :: AdShack :: NameMart :: DomainPress :: XYZ digital media solutions

02-25-2005, 11:15 AM	#3 (permalink)
Tippy NamePros Expert Join Date: May 2003 Location: Montreal Posts: 7,019	Perhaps Google would help if you had some type of written contract or something with this other person claiming you had a partnership, its a tough one... If the Domain is in his name I dont see how a lawyer could help, I mean if he can prove he owns the Domain what claim do you have to it.

02-26-2005, 12:44 AM	THREAD STARTER #9 (permalink)
John1968 New Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 24	thank you friends for your time to help us. we just thought if we can blacklist the domain someway so the wicket owner wont be able to use our hardwork.

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