Namepros.ca

namescanada · 02-16-2005, 02:08 PM

What is this? Hate people taking extensions. Namepro people should do something about this one.

I would like to start a discussion as well on Canadian e-commerce and internet stats. Read here first before making a response.

Riceman · 02-16-2005, 02:29 PM

is namepros trademarked?

namescanada · 02-16-2005, 03:03 PM

I did a search and found nothing. My wife is a legal assistant to a TM lawyer so I have her on the issue.

domain4u · 02-16-2005, 03:05 PM

No its not a trademark. But i am not sure if RJ will be happy with this

GJ · 02-16-2005, 03:08 PM

Well then the site that is around the longest will get rights to the name if in court but it won't go that far. It is not a massive deal really. I wouldn't mind.

namescanada · 02-16-2005, 03:12 PM

I don't think RJ would be to happy with this. Creativity breeds resentment!

Acroplex · 02-16-2005, 06:25 PM

NamePros is a creative name. It's not generic. The registrar is infringing on a common law trademark.

Edit: I was under the impression you were soliciting the domain. My apologies.

namescanada · 02-16-2005, 06:59 PM

No, I just came upon it when my curiousity took over. I would have thought Namepros grabbed this extension for the .ca market (which to me is almost the equivalent of .com since US and Canada are neighbors with a NAFTA agreement)

Premium · 02-16-2005, 08:44 PM

lol.. people of course you dont want it to happen but it will and you cant stop it.

I've regged domains with NamePros.ca and they have a great service

Cheap names as well

Namepros.com is Namepros.com and if you want to get to Namepros.com you type in Namepros.com not Namepros.ca !

I rest my case.

equity78 · 02-16-2005, 08:56 PM

THat is not so cut and dry Prem that would be like saying if you want Microsoft.com type that in if you want the .ca type that in. RJ has a common law trademark and this could be pursued. Jberryhill your advice needed.

PS you can stop it it gets stopped everyday.

JMJ · 02-16-2005, 09:19 PM

One could argue while the names are the same. NamePros.com is a domain forum and NamePros.ca is a domain reseller. Technically they could have the same Trademarked name providing different services.

I'm not agreeing with what they are doing it's just people use the word trademark way too loosely around here. I'm actually surprised just because there's such a thing as SublimeDirectory I don't get beat all to hell from the trademark bible beaters around here. lol

trishan · 02-16-2005, 09:54 PM

Namepros has the right to get their name back and really should pursue it. Maybe RJ could comment

JMJ · 02-16-2005, 10:16 PM

RJ owns the .com why waste his time and money. He doesn't have the .net .org .info .biz .us and who knows how many other extensions either. I had this 15 year old kid register jolt-host.com a couple of months after I started jolthost.com a few years back and the whole time I owned it he tried selling me his hyphenated version telling me some big hosting company has been after him trying to buy the name. I told him in the last email "Good, mabey they'll buy me out too!"

Believe it or not some people could care less what others do with the other extensions of their name. I'm sure it would become an issue if they started a domain forum but otherwise he's probably not sweating them.

equity78 · 02-17-2005, 01:37 AM

Well that is fine Sublime that kid is a joke you could have got him for a bad faith reg under the UDRP. BUt there is Intellectual property laws and TM laws if someone chooses to follow up and that is their choice and IMO there are more people who think it ok to rip off Intellectual Property than those throwing around TM too Loosely. AND for all those that are not lawyers or business people who have IP attorneys they really are just a non factor they have no knowledge their stating their opinion which does not hold up in a TM dispute. THIS place is RJ's he can do whatever he likes and I am sure he knows that.

birdman5 · 02-17-2005, 04:21 AM

I think it would be a nightmare to start chasing everyone who registered your name in various ccTLDs

In this case, i don't see that it infringes on this site at all, and ultimately as equity78 stated, it's really up to RJ to decide...

**Dave Zan** · 02-17-2005, 07:01 AM

IMHO, RJ will be hardpressed to indeed prove the latter intended to exploit
NamePros' name recall. It's one thing to say,"Hey, you're exploiting my name!",
it's another to actually prove they have every intent to do so.

namescanada, trishan and equity78, I don't mean to get personal, but I think
you 3 are just overreacting but within reason. Although obviously I don't speak
for RJ, I'm sure RJ is fine and dandy with just Namepros.com.

Besides, does anyone see him complaining?

IAmAllanShore · 02-17-2005, 07:24 AM

Cooler heads will always prevail ;-)
In a nutshell, RJ's sitting pretty with the .com , and while it's more complicated than this, don't forget that just because someone owns the .com, that fact doesn't bar others from owning the same words in other extensions. Otherwise, there would be no use for other extensions, because the first to the .com would "win" every time.
If NamePros.ca tried to start a forum, then I'm sure RJ would be all over it. However, in this case, I don't think he has any cause to be worried :-)
-Allan

dgridley · 02-17-2005, 09:04 AM

Not to mention, RJ being a US citizen cannot own a .ca domain as far as I know.. he has the .com and the focus on each site is different.. I don't he has to worry.

wisconsin · 02-17-2005, 11:35 AM

I don't think common laws apply to an online website. It has to have a "physical location" outside the cyber attached to it that is known to the consumer/public to claim common law. "Copyrights," yes!

02-16-2005, 02:08 PM	THREAD STARTER #1 (permalink)
namescanada NamePros Regular Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: .canada Posts: 493	Namepros.ca What is this? Hate people taking extensions. Namepro people should do something about this one. I would like to start a discussion as well on Canadian e-commerce and internet stats. Read here first before making a response. __________________ Ingrowns.com is for sale

02-16-2005, 02:29 PM	#2 (permalink)
Riceman Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,015	is namepros trademarked? __________________ :gl:

02-16-2005, 03:03 PM	THREAD STARTER #3 (permalink)
namescanada NamePros Regular Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: .canada Posts: 493	search I did a search and found nothing. My wife is a legal assistant to a TM lawyer so I have her on the issue. __________________ Ingrowns.com is for sale

02-16-2005, 03:05 PM	#4 (permalink)
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02-16-2005, 03:12 PM	THREAD STARTER #6 (permalink)
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02-16-2005, 03:08 PM	#5 (permalink)
GJ Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,226	Well then the site that is around the longest will get rights to the name if in court but it won't go that far. It is not a massive deal really. I wouldn't mind.

02-16-2005, 06:25 PM	#7 (permalink)
Acroplex Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 2,824	NamePros is a creative name. It's not generic. The registrar is infringing on a common law trademark. Edit: I was under the impression you were soliciting the domain. My apologies. __________________ DomainGang.com - Digital Entertainment for Domainers Acroplex - Web & Graphics Acro.net - My Blog

02-16-2005, 06:59 PM	THREAD STARTER #8 (permalink)
namescanada NamePros Regular Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: .canada Posts: 493	you are forgiven No, I just came upon it when my curiousity took over. I would have thought Namepros grabbed this extension for the .ca market (which to me is almost the equivalent of .com since US and Canada are neighbors with a NAFTA agreement) __________________ Ingrowns.com is for sale

02-16-2005, 08:44 PM	#9 (permalink)
Premium Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: NA Posts: 3,602	lol.. people of course you dont want it to happen but it will and you cant stop it. I've regged domains with NamePros.ca and they have a great service Cheap names as well Namepros.com is Namepros.com and if you want to get to Namepros.com you type in Namepros.com not Namepros.ca ! I rest my case. __________________ Need Web Hosting? WebHostingReviews.ca User Reviews & Ratings \| Choose The BEST Host!

02-16-2005, 08:56 PM	#10 (permalink)
equity78 NamePros Expert Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 7,639	THat is not so cut and dry Prem that would be like saying if you want Microsoft.com type that in if you want the .ca type that in. RJ has a common law trademark and this could be pursued. Jberryhill your advice needed. PS you can stop it it gets stopped everyday.

02-16-2005, 09:19 PM	#11 (permalink)
JMJ Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Nashville Posts: 1,888	One could argue while the names are the same. NamePros.com is a domain forum and NamePros.ca is a domain reseller. Technically they could have the same Trademarked name providing different services. I'm not agreeing with what they are doing it's just people use the word trademark way too loosely around here. I'm actually surprised just because there's such a thing as SublimeDirectory I don't get beat all to hell from the trademark bible beaters around here. lol

02-16-2005, 09:54 PM	#12 (permalink)
trishan NamePros Regular Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Melbourne Posts: 762	Namepros has the right to get their name back and really should pursue it. Maybe RJ could comment __________________ Online Marketing Melbourne \| JumperPunch \| FootyBook

02-16-2005, 10:16 PM	#13 (permalink)
JMJ Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Nashville Posts: 1,888	RJ owns the .com why waste his time and money. He doesn't have the .net .org .info .biz .us and who knows how many other extensions either. I had this 15 year old kid register jolt-host.com a couple of months after I started jolthost.com a few years back and the whole time I owned it he tried selling me his hyphenated version telling me some big hosting company has been after him trying to buy the name. I told him in the last email "Good, mabey they'll buy me out too!" Believe it or not some people could care less what others do with the other extensions of their name. I'm sure it would become an issue if they started a domain forum but otherwise he's probably not sweating them.

02-17-2005, 01:37 AM	#14 (permalink)
equity78 NamePros Expert Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 7,639	Well that is fine Sublime that kid is a joke you could have got him for a bad faith reg under the UDRP. BUt there is Intellectual property laws and TM laws if someone chooses to follow up and that is their choice and IMO there are more people who think it ok to rip off Intellectual Property than those throwing around TM too Loosely. AND for all those that are not lawyers or business people who have IP attorneys they really are just a non factor they have no knowledge their stating their opinion which does not hold up in a TM dispute. THIS place is RJ's he can do whatever he likes and I am sure he knows that.

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02-17-2005, 04:21 AM	#15 (permalink)
birdman5 NamePros Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 166	I think it would be a nightmare to start chasing everyone who registered your name in various ccTLDs In this case, i don't see that it infringes on this site at all, and ultimately as equity78 stated, it's really up to RJ to decide...

02-17-2005, 07:01 AM	#16 (permalink)
Dave Zan Electrifying Guy Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 4,827 Follow @DaveZan	IMHO, RJ will be hardpressed to indeed prove the latter intended to exploit NamePros' name recall. It's one thing to say,"Hey, you're exploiting my name!", it's another to actually prove they have every *intent* to do so. namescanada, trishan and equity78, I don't mean to get personal, but I think you 3 are just overreacting but within reason. Although obviously I don't speak for RJ, I'm sure RJ is fine and dandy with just Namepros.com. Besides, does anyone see him complaining? __________________ *Vidi, Vici, Veni!* Follow My Tweets \| Check My Blog

02-17-2005, 07:24 AM	#17 (permalink)
IAmAllanShore NamePros Expert Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Esse quam videri Posts: 8,316	Cooler heads will always prevail ;-) In a nutshell, RJ's sitting pretty with the .com , and while it's more complicated than this, don't forget that just because someone owns the .com, that fact doesn't bar others from owning the same words in other extensions. Otherwise, there would be no use for other extensions, because the first to the .com would "win" every time. If NamePros.ca tried to start a forum, then I'm sure RJ would be all over it. However, in this case, I don't think he has any cause to be worried :-) -Allan __________________ Something Witty This Way Comes...

02-17-2005, 09:04 AM	#18 (permalink)
dgridley NamePros Legend Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: SW Missouri Posts: 18,396 Follow @davew3b	Not to mention, RJ being a US citizen cannot own a .ca domain as far as I know.. he has the .com and the focus on each site is different.. I don't he has to worry. __________________ davew3b tumblr blog \| davew3b posterous blog

02-17-2005, 11:35 AM	#19 (permalink)
wisconsin NamePros Regular Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 682	I don't think common laws apply to an online website. It has to have a "physical location" outside the cyber attached to it that is known to the consumer/public to claim common law. "Copyrights," yes!

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