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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Chapter 5 Your Domain Name The following is from Chapter 5 of my book, WebForging at http://www.WebForging.com Here's a real litmus test: posting sample text from my book from the Chapter on "Your Domain Name" in a forum of 13,000+ domainers! Please, be gentle dear readers. The final draft of this chapter is somewhat different based on extensive review of domain minutiae with my SysAdmins. Constructive criticism is welcome! If you like these posts, I'll do more from the book. Reputation appreciated. Chapter 5 Your Domain Name Domain names deserve a lot of consideration. In addition to being your address on the web, they will (at least, they should) appear on all of your advertising, your letterhead, packaging, vehicles, and products. You and your employees will verbally communicate your name, time and time again. Your "music on hold" system and any broadcast advertising you do should say your web address. In this chapter we'll give you the parameters for choosing a name, we'll outline registrars to use and the mechanics of obtaining a domain name and we'll list considerations to keep in mind when choosing a domain name. Domain Names Defined A domain name is your address on the web. The proper name is Uniform Resource Locator, commonly called a URL (pronounced "you - are - ell") or "url" as in the Duke of Earl. Other names that mean essentially the same thing include web address, website or site address, "location" (used on some browsers), or just plain address. The complete domain name, e.g., http://www.SampleNameHere.com, is composed of several parts. The first part - http:// - means HyperText Transfer Protocol, the protocol used to link text on the web. The "www" means World Wide Web, the portion of the Internet you are accessing. The last part - SampleNameHere.com - in our example, is known as the upper domain. This is how particular sites are found on the web. For those with a technical bent, the upper domain is actually an alias for your Internet Protocol address, or IP address for short. An IP address is kind of like a phone number that follows the format "x.x.x.x" where x = a number between 0 and 255...123.45.67.89, as an example. The upper domain is listed in router tables around the world that equate your domain name to your IP address. When someone enters your domain name in their browser, routers keep routing the request for your web page to other routers that keep the request moving toward, and ultimately to, the machine that serves your domain name. Domain Name Choice Parameters Domain names may be 2 to 62 characters long (not including the suffix, .com for example). Domain names may consist of any combination of letters and numbers and the "-" dash punctuation character. Seven upper level domain name suffixes currently available include .com, .net, .org, .edu, .mil, .gov and .sci. Two character domain names are country codes; .us for United States of America, .de for Deutschland (Germany), and so on. A complete list of country codes is provided in Appendix B. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/domain-name-discussion/70280-chapter-5-your-domain-name.html Upper domains are not case-sensitive. You can mix upper- and lower-case letters, as in http://www.OnYourMark.com. I recommend you use capital letters to help visually break domain names into discrete units, like http://www.ProgrammerHelp.com and http://www.theBubbler.com. You cannot necessarily do the same with prefixes in email addresses, e.g., PreFix@SampleNameHere.com will not work if the email address is actually prefix@SampleNameHere.com unless the mail server has been specifically setup for non-case sensitive email. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=70280 ************************************** Additional content covered in the print edition of Webforging includes a paragraph to a page or more on each of the following: * Registrars * Domain Name Choice Considerations o Match Your Company Name o "Dot-Com" Preferred o Abbreviations - Shorter is Not Necessarily Better o Geography o Numbers and Number Acronyms o Using Your Domain Name in Print o Do NOT Reserve Competitors' Company or Brand Names * Multiple Domain Names * The Mechanics of Searching for a Domain Name * Registering Your Domain Name o Be Sure You are Listed as the "Registrant" o Register Using Your Proper Company Name ************************************** Final Thoughts When you register your name, have the IP address available at which your site will reside. If you have a vendor doing the registration, they'll know the address. (Author's note: the next paragraph has been amended to note the influence an "Admin Contact" can have on Domain Name Transfers) Bear in mind that it is possible to change domain name registration contacts (names, addresses, phone numbers and so forth). Remember, the contact listed as the registrant has ultimate control over the use of the domain name. Your business, not your web vendor, should be listed as the registrant. While changes are possible, they often require repeated phone calls, faxes, and emails, not to mention notarized forms and time-consuming manual processes to complete. Consult your vendor or team members before you register names. (c) 2005 Keith Klein All rights reserved. . Reputation Appreciated
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Thanks for sharing another chapter, Keith!
Domain names and URL's are both casually referred to as 'addresses', but have different definitions. I'm also a little curious where you found the term 'upper domain'.
Making changes to registrant information is generally not difficult. Even at Network Solutions, ownership changes and WHOIS info updates are a breeze. The only registrar I knew to require notarized papers was Register.com, and I stopped using them years ago because of it. Not sure if they still have that process. I would also stress the importance of keeping accurate contact information in the WHOIS. An out of date email address could lead to the domain being cancelled or stolen.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=70280 .aero, .arpa, .biz, .com, .coop, .info, .int, .gov, .mil, .museum, .name, .net, .org, and .pro. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=70280 of which only these are really available for the general public use .biz, .com, .info, .name, .net, .org, and .pro I hope this helps! RJ | ||||||||||||
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Thank you, RJ, for your clarificication as well. Regards, Keith
I had this conversation with one of my SysAdmins. Though not perfectly correct, I went for a "simple" (albeit imperfect) explanation. Please bear in mind that I've written the book for company owners, sales and marketing managers, and the small-to-medium size business IT guy who's been given responsibility for the Company web presence. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=70280 That's my excuse: just trying to keep it as simple as possible for a mostly non-technical audience. From that point of view, keeping it simple and as non-technical as feasible, do you agree with the content as presented? Thank you for the observations! I figured the best place to get the toughest - and most constructive - critiques was right here at Namepros.
Good point about keeping accurate contact info. I'll double check to see if that is addressed somewhere in the remainder of the chapter (only a sample of each chapter is presented here). Thank you again for the constructive critique. Regards, Keith
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![]() ![]() ![]() | As already mentioned there are a lot of inaccuracies. I appreciate that some of them are a bit pedantic, but if you are going to go into these details then you should get it right. The part about the breakdown of the URL in particular could use some work, and there are lots of documents out there you could use for reference. There's no “upper domain”, there's a TLD and a 2LD. The “www” is the host name, it's the host that resolves to the IP address. And then of course there's conical names instead of A records. Also it might be worth noting that the host name may be case sensitive and may support more than [a-z0-9-] depending on your name server. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=70280 I'll agree that most people shouldn't need to, or even want to know all this. Still that's not a good reason to get it wrong. |
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One technique used to help keep it simple, yet accurate, is the "... except in special situations." or "...technically speaking ___, but in common practice...", prefacing approach.
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In the Appendix of Domain Name Registrars I went out of my way to state that Domain Registry of America practices domain slamming (akin to phone service slamming) and have been nothing but a hassle to deal with in every case. If folks concur here, I can point out that in the domain name world using Register.com, as one domainer put it, is like going "to a dentist who performs root canals w/o anaestheia and than charges 10x the going rate" - or something to that effect. What's the consensus? Thanks again, Grrilla. Regards, Keith
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????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=70280 Enom's retail prices are not much better. Same with BuyDomains. HOwever, they do offer full control and security. Some of these discount sellers and hosts have restrictions which make it hard to move/sell/control the domains. | ||||
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| Personally, (back when I had a couple of names there), besides being more expensive, I had far more difficulty managing names at Register.com than anywhere else, other than a recent nightmare I went through during the transfer of a name to a Netsol account. The application process and reams of paperwork necessary to complete a transaction are archaic. They both got their market share and fame early on and, IMO, are living off of their early dominance and broad exposure. Not sure where Register.com's pricing, procedures and service are at present, but for a couple of years, they were capitalizing on the uninformed by charging 5-10x as much as other reputable registrars. Their heads weren't under the sand and they knew what they were doing when they were charging $40 for the same name that could be regged at GoDaddy for $4.95. For one of my sites, they once inexplicably tried to charge me $250 for a transfer from my (then), webmaster's acct to my acct at a different registrar. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=70280 They suck, IMHO.
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Most people who haven't dealt with DNS settings probably don't know that the "root" is actually a period or dot after the first level domain of all TLD's, although never shown in web or email addresses, only in DNS entries. Also, www. doesn't necessarily mean the "portion of the web" you are accesing, since "mail.name.tld" may be a website about mail, not a mail server. The rightmost name is actually the server/computer you are accessing, whether it's a virtual, alias, or real server. With a URL of ftp://www.domain.tld, the "www" is actually probably not a web server, but more likely an FTP server, or the FTP directory of a multi-protocol server. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=70280 I suppose gopher servers, and archie and vernonica (not cartoon characters) are ancient and obscure internet history to most people now, replaced by IM, chat and VoIP protocols.
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Thank you! Well written observations, AdoptableDomains; thank you. Regards, Keith
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????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=70280 The rest of Chapters 1 thru 15 at NamePros.Com > Design and Development > Webmaster Tutorials, aka http://namepros.com/forumdisplay.php?f=53 Chapters 16 thru 24 and some Appendices coming soon. Regards, Keith
Perhaps someone more technically proficient than me can help you. I would also suggest that you start a new thread for your request. Good luck. Regards, Keith
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