Buying every .com that has a .net/.org without the .com pair?

IAmAllanShore · 02-05-2005, 11:15 PM

In short: Does that sound like a plan?
Some issues, of course, but on its face I would like a simple script that ran through .net and .org search results to see if the .com's are avaiable and then compile a list of the available .com's...
Anyone a programmer type and wants to do this, I can donate to help finance the project ;-)
-Allan

primacomputer · 02-06-2005, 01:11 AM

Not a bad idea. You'll want to combine it with a back link check and sanity check. Otherwise you end up buying crap. Lets say someone registered a .com. Then someone saw the .com was registered and registered the .net. Then the original .com owner let the .com lapse because it was a crap name.

The good news is that If you set some basic criteria you'll have a limited enough set of results that you can easily review them manually. There's a lot of people who have been doing this for a long time. I have about 50,000 names like this I'm watching for. One drops occasionally, but rarely something very exciting. Still it's a good thing to add to your daily drop watch list.

Obviously I've already written something similar to what you want so if you want to talk about it dome me a line.

Complete Hostings · 02-06-2005, 01:36 AM

nice idea i think it would be a well used site but the script might be hard

mole · 02-06-2005, 02:54 AM

Originally Posted by primacomputer

and sanity check.

What kind of algo is that?

snoop · 02-06-2005, 03:05 AM

Originally Posted by IAmAllanShore

In short: Does that sound like a plan?
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/domain-name-discussion/68613-buying-every-com-has-net-org.html
Some issues, of course, but on its face I would like a simple script that ran through .net and .org search results to see if the .com's are avaiable and then compile a list of the available .com's...
Anyone a programmer type and wants to do this, I can donate to help finance the project ;-)
-Allan

You're about 5 years too late, drop list providers have been selling this kind of info for a long time. Likely most of the names fitting that criteria are just names which aren't worth anything in .com/.net/.org and the .net and .org hasn't been dropped yet. If you come up with any other ideas I'd say don't post them up on public forums, if it is a good idea everyone reading will beat you to the punch.

mole · 02-06-2005, 03:12 AM

Originally Posted by snoop

If you come up with any other ideas I'd say don't post them up on public forums, if it is a good idea everyone reading will beat you to the punch.

Depends on the idea

lind · 02-06-2005, 08:55 AM

Another possibility would be finding .coms with hyphens and checking if the unhyphened version is available.

Midano · 02-06-2005, 09:21 AM

Originally Posted by IAmAllanShore

In short: Does that sound like a plan?

If .net is an active website - yes.

1rrr1 · 02-06-2005, 07:39 PM

good idea, but you have to use your common sense as well.

Cyberian · 06-03-2005, 11:13 AM

Originally Posted by mole

What kind of algo is that?

One that restores sanity after endless hours of going over even the filtered lists. Anybody know a really good optomologist?

Midano · 06-03-2005, 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by kid5150

Anybody know a really good optomologist?

No, but I have ophthalmoscope.net if you want it.

06-04-2005, 12:40 AM

Quote:

Anybody know a really good optomologist?

No, but I have 4IC.com

EbookLover · 06-04-2005, 01:26 AM

Originally Posted by snoop

You're about 5 years too late, drop list providers have been selling this kind of info for a long time. Likely most of the names fitting that criteria are just names which aren't worth anything in .com/.net/.org and the .net and .org hasn't been dropped yet. If you come up with any other ideas I'd say don't post them up on public forums, if it is a good idea everyone reading will beat you to the punch.

I don't think that Allan's idea is exactly the same as subscribing to a drop service.

besides, I don't think that if Allan thought he had a real money maker that he would have annouced it so publicly. Are you trying to say that you think, in fact, he has a good idea and that you thought about "stealing" it?

RJ · 06-04-2005, 01:46 AM

Originally Posted by IAmAllanShore

In short: Does that sound like a plan?
Some issues, of course, but on its face I would like a simple script that ran through .net and .org search results to see if the .com's are avaiable and then compile a list of the available .com's...
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=68613
Anyone a programmer type and wants to do this, I can donate to help finance the project ;-)
-Allan

Exody.com offers a list like this generated everyday that might be of use to you.

-db- · 06-04-2005, 02:05 AM

I once spent some time researching active and established ISP's, hosting companies (etc) that were set up on .NET space, and registered a few of the available .com's (about 7 if I remember) that were not taken. Combined they produced a decent amount of traffic, 300-400 uniques per day. I used them for a while but then resold them with a site package.

I looked thru lots of crap to find those, and it wasn't easy.

Plus, most companies are smart enough to acquire the .com, even if they use the .net primarily. I'm sure there's still some needles in the haystack, and having an easier way to find them would be nice.

06-04-2005, 02:45 AM

It wasn't a net/org, but an unusual net/.us that I stumbled onto the other day when I regged crapzilla.com, (seriously!). The crapzilla.us was regged for 3 yrs beginning in 2003 and the .net show 11/04-11/05 and they are regged by different people. The .com doesn't show up on Wayback, so one can only project as to what the circumstances were on this one. Golly, Wally. It's a wacky world out there, sometimes.

Scott · 06-04-2005, 03:13 AM

Originally Posted by -RJ-

Exody.com offers a list like this generated everyday that might be of use to you.

Beat me to it. ^^ it's a nice list.

1rrr1 · 06-04-2005, 03:25 AM

Exody.com is quite a good site. Thanks!

jeter4982 · 06-04-2005, 06:11 AM

Originally Posted by -RJ-

Exody.com offers a list like this generated everyday that might be of use to you.

Thanks for the link RJ!

ApeXX · 06-04-2005, 06:45 AM

Originally Posted by snoop

You're about 5 years too late, drop list providers have been selling this kind of info for a long time. Likely most of the names fitting that criteria are just names which aren't worth anything in .com/.net/.org and the .net and .org hasn't been dropped yet. If you come up with any other ideas I'd say don't post them up on public forums, if it is a good idea everyone reading will beat you to the punch.

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=68613
Yeah, that is what drop list providers do. A great idea, if you had just come up with it a little sooner. Still if your are interested in making $$$, you could always sell the script if you did not wish to use it.

primacomputer · 06-04-2005, 07:09 AM

Originally Posted by mole

What kind of algo is that?

Basically you take the name and add a “zilla” to it. You then check to see if that was reged by a namepros member in the last few days. If it was then it passes and is certifiably insane

Jimmy Changa · 06-04-2005, 07:23 AM

^^^

Insanity (n) - Doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result.

slaughterbeck · 06-04-2005, 02:03 PM

Originally Posted by snoop

If you come up with any other ideas I'd say don't post them up on public forums, if it is a good idea everyone reading will beat you to the punch.

In the few months I have been a member of Namepros I can recall many insightful, educational and serving posts by Allen but this invective you have posted is the only reason I noticed you!

AdoptableDomains · 06-04-2005, 05:19 PM

localwhois.com used to offer this service before they were purchased by domainsbot.com. I don't know if domainsbot still offers this search since I'm no longer a member, but they used to. I think you will find there are a lot of .orgs taken that have the .com available, but that doesn't mean they'll get much meaningful traffic. Many are small clubs and organizations that don't get many hits themselves. I do websites for about a dozen clubs that use .org in which the .com is available. I myself don't see any need to register the .com. I've even seen others register the .com one year and let it drop the next, apparently not getting enough traffic to make it worthwhile. .net domains may be a different story in many cases though. Also names that could be considered generic. I have a couple like this that do pay their own reg fees plus a few $, but nothing significant.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=68613

As previuosly stated, I've often seen .nets registered of .coms I've had that weren't worth the fees. When I let the .com drop, it may have been tempting to register it since the .net was taken, unless you made sure the .net was actually developed (which is think is the key).

***armstrong*** · 06-04-2005, 05:26 PM

If you don't have the budget for exody, then whois.sc's "Domain Explorer" might work for you. Just specify "Active only" search to limit the results you have to visually scan.

Originally Posted by Midano

No, but I have ophthalmoscope.net if you want it.

Midano: you, sir, need to take a break from domaining.

Originally Posted by Grrilla

No, but I have 4IC.com

same goes for you, Mike.

02-05-2005, 11:15 PM	THREAD STARTER #1 (permalink)
IAmAllanShore NamePros Expert Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Esse quam videri Posts: 8,316	Buying every .com that has a .net/.org without the .com pair? In short: Does that sound like a plan? Some issues, of course, but on its face I would like a simple script that ran through .net and .org search results to see if the .com's are avaiable and then compile a list of the available .com's... Anyone a programmer type and wants to do this, I can donate to help finance the project ;-) -Allan __________________ Something Witty This Way Comes...

02-06-2005, 08:55 AM	#7 (permalink)
lind NamePros Regular Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 388	Another possibility would be finding .coms with hyphens and checking if the unhyphened version is available. Last edited by lind; 02-06-2005 at 09:39 AM.

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1rrr1 NamePros Expert Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 6,285	good idea, but you have to use your common sense as well. __________________ Drop Catching Services - Click here for more info Especially effective for .co, .in and .co.in domains. I also offer drop lists for these extensions.

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-db- NamePros Inc. Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Under the bed. Posts: 5,609	I once spent some time researching active and established ISP's, hosting companies (etc) that were set up on .NET space, and registered a few of the available .com's (about 7 if I remember) that were not taken. Combined they produced a decent amount of traffic, 300-400 uniques per day. I used them for a while but then resold them with a site package. I looked thru lots of crap to find those, and it wasn't easy. Plus, most companies are smart enough to acquire the .com, even if they use the .net primarily. I'm sure there's still some needles in the haystack, and having an easier way to find them would be nice. __________________ I support Children: Wish.org \| MissingKids.com I support Animals: SPCA.org \| SPCA.com Jeff \| Armstrong \| Grrilla - First 3 inductees into NamePro's Hall-Of-Fame.

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02-06-2005, 01:11 AM	#2 (permalink)
primacomputer Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,402	Not a bad idea. You'll want to combine it with a back link check and sanity check. Otherwise you end up buying crap. Lets say someone registered a .com. Then someone saw the .com was registered and registered the .net. Then the original .com owner let the .com lapse because it was a crap name. The good news is that If you set some basic criteria you'll have a limited enough set of results that you can easily review them manually. There's a lot of people who have been doing this for a long time. I have about 50,000 names like this I'm watching for. One drops occasionally, but rarely something very exciting. Still it's a good thing to add to your daily drop watch list. Obviously I've already written something similar to what you want so if you want to talk about it dome me a line.

02-06-2005, 01:36 AM	#3 (permalink)
Complete Hostings Account Closed Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 720	nice idea i think it would be a well used site but the script might be hard

06-04-2005, 02:45 AM	#16 (permalink)
Grrilla Guest Posts: n/a	It wasn't a net/org, but an unusual net/.us that I stumbled onto the other day when I regged crapzilla.com, (seriously!). The crapzilla.us was regged for 3 yrs beginning in 2003 and the .net show 11/04-11/05 and they are regged by different people. The .com doesn't show up on Wayback, so one can only project as to what the circumstances were on this one. Golly, Wally. It's a wacky world out there, sometimes.

06-04-2005, 07:23 AM	#22 (permalink)
Jimmy Changa PlanetBurrito.com Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 642	^^^ Insanity (n) - Doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result. __________________ My Current Domain Listings. Celebrity & Model Website Portal I ate some prunes today and they didn't do shit for me! - Jimmy Changa

06-04-2005, 05:19 PM	#24 (permalink)
AdoptableDomains Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: SW Ohio Posts: 4,015	localwhois.com used to offer this service before they were purchased by domainsbot.com. I don't know if domainsbot still offers this search since I'm no longer a member, but they used to. I think you will find there are a lot of .orgs taken that have the .com available, but that doesn't mean they'll get much meaningful traffic. Many are small clubs and organizations that don't get many hits themselves. I do websites for about a dozen clubs that use .org in which the .com is available. I myself don't see any need to register the .com. I've even seen others register the .com one year and let it drop the next, apparently not getting enough traffic to make it worthwhile. .net domains may be a different story in many cases though. Also names that could be considered generic. I have a couple like this that do pay their own reg fees plus a few $, but nothing significant. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=68613 As previuosly stated, I've often seen .nets registered of .coms I've had that weren't worth the fees. When I let the .com drop, it may have been tempting to register it since the .net was taken, unless you made sure the .net was actually developed (which is think is the key). __________________ AdoptableDomains.com ~~~~~Finding Good Homes for Good Names~~~~~ FuelPrices.mobi - Fish.us - ManhattanNewYork.net - Salesmen.info - SoundSystems.org Dickering.com - JobPlacement.biz - LotteryTickets.ws - Deleted.cc - Names.im - MP3.hn

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