Has anyone ever been a victim?

ashaw · 01-12-2005, 09:17 PM

Has anyone here ever been a victim of a fradulant act commited on paypal (not by paypal)?

How do you all feel about paypals support dealing with issues related to Fraud?

Thanks everyone...

Andrew

CrazyEddie · 01-12-2005, 09:26 PM

They don't care.

ashaw · 01-12-2005, 09:32 PM

I have been a vicitim of fraud more then once... Its not that they dont care... Its that they dont have anything to back them up.

When i called customer service about the issue... their customer service isnt great either. Do you every feel like the person you are talking too acts like they care? But in reality...If they dont further help you.... do they get paid any less? NOPE... infact its apparent that they couldnt care less what happens in your situation.

Its hard to believe that such a larg corperation has such little protection

Andrew

armstrong · 01-12-2005, 09:52 PM

You want to make a big corporation like Paypal care? Talk to a lawyer about starting a class-action suit, then get all your olnine friends to help find other Paypal fraud victims (shouldn't be too hard). If you end up with a multi-million $ settlement, don't forget to send me a free ipod.

ashaw · 01-12-2005, 10:21 PM

Thats not a bad idea... Lets start here by seeing how many victims of fraud through paypal there are...

Anyone may post!

Andrew

superprogrammer · 01-12-2005, 11:18 PM

Paypal will never care....And they are bastards........And scammers too..
I am sure ebay/paypal works partially with those scammers for making money.
People in US can atleast call them to resolve the issue, but what about others
It is really a mess when you have to wait for so long time getting connected to a person on an "international call"
They would never reply to emails in less than one week.
I have one seller complaint when the goods were delivered. I called paypal many times but there was no one to hanlde the "international call". My emails were never replied
And when the "time in which you can resolve the issue got over", I got a reply from them stating that "We see that the issue is resolved, Thanks for using ****ing paypal"
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/domain-name-discussion/64615-has-anyone-ever-been-a-victim.html

I dont know what if people of US dont care or what...
But paypal is still continiung with its Age Old Scam!!
Its TOS are against the Credit Card Service Agreement...

Actually there are ways using which people make money using paypal...Not to mention any on these forums here..but they(scammers) have make it their business here and considering the number of paypal customers, they get the victims handy everyday!
Long live paypal for them!!
San

AsclepiusZ · 01-12-2005, 11:43 PM

all you have to go of google and its got hundreds of sites full of paypal fraud and stuff

Veolus · 01-12-2005, 11:54 PM

yeah theres also tons of these sites with credit card details exposed to public viewers

AsclepiusZ · 01-12-2005, 11:56 PM

its really annoying when your actually trying to google to find something out about paypal. all you get is those sites

Veolus · 01-13-2005, 12:00 AM

you mean sites like www.paypalsucks.com ?? heh??

AsclepiusZ · 01-13-2005, 12:04 AM

lol. thats original!

sunken · 01-13-2005, 12:20 AM

My father got screwed out of $100 via Paypal. He was told the transaction was fine, so he sent the shoes, and then days later, they just took the money out of the bank account and he never got back the shoes. We tried to talk to them (he is not that internet savvy), but to no avail. They were like, "You shouldn't sell it to a guy who stole a credit card." Like he was supposed to know that...

AsclepiusZ · 01-13-2005, 12:24 AM

that really sux dude

Veolus · 01-13-2005, 12:30 AM

that sux thats not fair i would complain to paypal or something =\

sunken · 01-13-2005, 12:41 AM

We tried, but they just fell on a deaf ear. And then the way they had it down (since he transferred it to my account, they made him look like the culprit) so we couldn't even file in the lawsuit. Live and learn I guess. The best advice for anyone with Paypal is to have a separate account just for Paypal and transfer that money out ASAP.

AsclepiusZ · 01-13-2005, 12:48 AM

smart idea

harpo · 01-13-2005, 02:50 AM

Originally Posted by Domainsell1387

Has anyone here ever been a victim of a fradulant act commited on paypal (not by paypal)?

How do you all feel about paypals support dealing with issues related to Fraud?

Thanks everyone...

Andrew

have you ever let friends borrow money say pals of yours , its abit wierd yahhhhhh
When your on a quest many pitfalls are there,,, hey thats what makes a great screen play , movie , opera, story ect exciting and adventurious, where attention goes energy flows -------- sooo what brought to you where you are now thats the focus,,,,,,,in the first place , scams are surrounding you every day their is no escape ,, There is no one i say who hasnt been scammed ,, though is it really is a scam if you have learned from it?, has it taught you to step differently? or our misfortunes , enemies, scammers are our lessons in discuise ,
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boldylicious · 01-13-2005, 06:16 AM

Originally Posted by Domainsell1387

Has anyone here ever been a victim of a fradulant act commited on paypal (not by paypal)?

How do you all feel about paypals support dealing with issues related to Fraud?

Thanks everyone...

Andrew

I been , i tried to deal with Paypal customer service but they dont care at all about frauds.

They just keep a blind eye to the bunch of scammers using paypal , as long as they keep bringing money to them.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=64615
And his Buyer Protecction Policy its nothing but a bad joke !

mole · 01-13-2005, 06:18 AM

Use Paypal only for convenience, but be prepared to lose every single cent on that transaction. As a rule (and depending on how rich you are because it is your daddy's money anyway), transactions $500 and below who cares if you get frauded. Transactions in the thousands, go Escrow at minimum.

I've done many Paypal transactions at $1k and below, and have never got burnt. It pays to do your homework on who you are buying from. I always try to do a background check.

Notwithstanding, caveat emptor.

ashaw · 01-13-2005, 01:29 PM

100 dollars is nothing...

I was frauded $10,000 by a lady named kathy roman that lives in california.

I was selling pocket bikes on ebay ( for those who dont know what they are, they are mini motor cycles/sport bikes) and was buying them from her as i got orders in...and she was shipping them out to my customers ( also called Drop Shipping...something a lot of major corps do)

I sent her money here and there, as she kept saying she was still shipping out... She ended up keeping about 10k of mine...and paypal did absolutely NOTHING about it!

I was forced to hire a lawyer and only managed to get 6k back... i guess its better then nothing.... but this proves two things...
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=64615

Paypal has no support....and you cant trust anyone.

Yes it was dumb for me to send that much money without verifying... But i trusted paypal to back up her words.

Andrew

Scott · 01-13-2005, 03:07 PM

£50 and the odd $10. NoChex is good for the UK, once the money is sent, you can't get it back!

superprogrammer · 01-13-2005, 05:35 PM

Originally Posted by Scott

£50 and the odd $10. NoChex is good for the UK, once the money is sent, you can't get it back!

And also, there are less scammers in UK compared to some countries I dont want to name here!

ashaw · 01-13-2005, 09:55 PM

I will gladly admit the united states has far more scammers then the UK...

Its always someone trying to pull over a quick one!

...by the way... anyone interested in buying "abc.com" from me for only $5,000? (just a joke) ;-)

jehnidiah · 01-13-2005, 10:41 PM

I suggest you all read my thread: http://namepros.com/showthread.php?t=64369

Stella · 01-15-2005, 11:36 AM

I'm certain that PayPal is quite happy to block a persons account in the event of a complaint and then just forget about it. Just like hosts that will pull a plug on a site because of a spam complaint without even finding out if there really was spam sent.

Somehow I've got the feeling that we are all getting the short end of the stick with these types of things. We are the ones that pay the fees on payment processors and yet there only has to be one idiot around complaining and you lose all your money. I think it is about time that PayPal and payment processors in general start realising on which side their bread is buttered on. I would be more than happy to sign a petition pertaining to such!

01-12-2005, 09:17 PM	THREAD STARTER #1 (permalink)
ashaw NamePros Regular Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Maryland Posts: 814	Has anyone ever been a victim? Has anyone here ever been a victim of a fradulant act commited on paypal (not by paypal)? How do you all feel about paypals support dealing with issues related to Fraud? Thanks everyone... Andrew __________________ bloodcells.info \| digitalized.info \| SOLD \| candidacy.info \| spidering.info \| egypts.info \| diamondjewellery.info \| dence.info \| ditsy.info \| fullback.info \| cocoons.info

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01-12-2005, 09:32 PM	THREAD STARTER #3 (permalink)
ashaw NamePros Regular Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Maryland Posts: 814	I have been a vicitim of fraud more then once... Its not that they dont care... Its that they dont have anything to back them up. When i called customer service about the issue... their customer service isnt great either. Do you every feel like the person you are talking too acts like they care? But in reality...If they dont further help you.... do they get paid any less? NOPE... infact its apparent that they couldnt care less what happens in your situation. Its hard to believe that such a larg corperation has such little protection Andrew __________________ bloodcells.info \| digitalized.info \| SOLD \| candidacy.info \| spidering.info \| egypts.info \| diamondjewellery.info \| dence.info \| ditsy.info \| fullback.info \| cocoons.info

01-12-2005, 09:52 PM	#4 (permalink)
armstrong Man from Manila Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: The Net Posts: 6,025	You want to make a big corporation like Paypal care? Talk to a lawyer about starting a class-action suit, then get all your olnine friends to help find other Paypal fraud victims (shouldn't be too hard). If you end up with a multi-million $ settlement, don't forget to send me a free ipod. __________________ Apollo's excellent 3-letter .BIZ auction; $1 starting bid!

01-12-2005, 10:21 PM	THREAD STARTER #5 (permalink)
ashaw NamePros Regular Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Maryland Posts: 814	Thats not a bad idea... Lets start here by seeing how many victims of fraud through paypal there are... Anyone may post! Andrew __________________ bloodcells.info \| digitalized.info \| SOLD \| candidacy.info \| spidering.info \| egypts.info \| diamondjewellery.info \| dence.info \| ditsy.info \| fullback.info \| cocoons.info

01-12-2005, 11:18 PM	#6 (permalink)
superprogrammer Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Washington Posts: 4,327	Paypal will never care....And they are bastards........And scammers too.. I am sure ebay/paypal works partially with those scammers for making money. People in US can atleast call them to resolve the issue, but what about others It is really a mess when you have to wait for so long time getting connected to a person on an "international call" They would never reply to emails in less than one week. I have one seller complaint when the goods were delivered. I called paypal many times but there was no one to hanlde the "international call". My emails were never replied And when the "time in which you can resolve the issue got over", I got a reply from them stating that "We see that the issue is resolved, Thanks for using ****ing paypal" ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/domain-name-discussion/64615-has-anyone-ever-been-a-victim.html I dont know what if people of US dont care or what... But paypal is still continiung with its Age Old Scam!! Its TOS are against the Credit Card Service Agreement... Actually there are ways using which people make money using paypal...Not to mention any on these forums here..but they(scammers) have make it their business here and considering the number of paypal customers, they get the victims handy everyday! Long live paypal for them!! San __________________ Download youtube videos at www.HugYouTube.com -NO LINKS TO PARKED PAGES- Anonymous access at www.Banned.net

01-12-2005, 11:43 PM	#7 (permalink)
AsclepiusZ NamePros Regular Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Good question..... Posts: 520	all you have to go of google and its got hundreds of sites full of paypal fraud and stuff

01-12-2005, 11:54 PM	#8 (permalink)
Veolus Account Suspended Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 4,309	yeah theres also tons of these sites with credit card details exposed to public viewers

01-12-2005, 11:56 PM	#9 (permalink)
AsclepiusZ NamePros Regular Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Good question..... Posts: 520	its really annoying when your actually trying to google to find something out about paypal. all you get is those sites

01-13-2005, 12:00 AM	#10 (permalink)
Veolus Account Suspended Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 4,309	you mean sites like www.paypalsucks.com ?? heh??

01-13-2005, 12:04 AM	#11 (permalink)
AsclepiusZ NamePros Regular Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Good question..... Posts: 520	lol. thats original!

01-13-2005, 12:20 AM	#12 (permalink)
sunken Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 2,279	My father got screwed out of $100 via Paypal. He was told the transaction was fine, so he sent the shoes, and then days later, they just took the money out of the bank account and he never got back the shoes. We tried to talk to them (he is not that internet savvy), but to no avail. They were like, "You shouldn't sell it to a guy who stole a credit card." Like he was supposed to know that... __________________ juegos juegos \| Your Hotel in Austria psicologo valencia

01-13-2005, 12:24 AM	#13 (permalink)
AsclepiusZ NamePros Regular Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Good question..... Posts: 520	that really sux dude

01-13-2005, 12:30 AM	#14 (permalink)
Veolus Account Suspended Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 4,309	that sux thats not fair i would complain to paypal or something =\

01-13-2005, 12:41 AM	#15 (permalink)
sunken Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 2,279	We tried, but they just fell on a deaf ear. And then the way they had it down (since he transferred it to my account, they made him look like the culprit) so we couldn't even file in the lawsuit. Live and learn I guess. The best advice for anyone with Paypal is to have a separate account just for Paypal and transfer that money out ASAP. __________________ juegos juegos \| Your Hotel in Austria psicologo valencia

01-13-2005, 12:48 AM	#16 (permalink)
AsclepiusZ NamePros Regular Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Good question..... Posts: 520	smart idea

01-13-2005, 06:18 AM	#19 (permalink)
mole Insectivora Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Under Ground Posts: 2,164	Use Paypal only for convenience, but be prepared to lose every single cent on that transaction. As a rule (and depending on how rich you are because it is your daddy's money anyway), transactions $500 and below who cares if you get frauded. Transactions in the thousands, go Escrow at minimum. I've done many Paypal transactions at $1k and below, and have never got burnt. It pays to do your homework on who you are buying from. I always try to do a background check. Notwithstanding, caveat emptor. __________________ If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end in doubts; but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties. Sir Francis Bacon

01-13-2005, 01:29 PM	THREAD STARTER #20 (permalink)
ashaw NamePros Regular Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Maryland Posts: 814	100 dollars is nothing... I was frauded $10,000 by a lady named kathy roman that lives in california. I was selling pocket bikes on ebay ( for those who dont know what they are, they are mini motor cycles/sport bikes) and was buying them from her as i got orders in...and she was shipping them out to my customers ( also called Drop Shipping...something a lot of major corps do) I sent her money here and there, as she kept saying she was still shipping out... She ended up keeping about 10k of mine...and paypal did absolutely NOTHING about it! I was forced to hire a lawyer and only managed to get 6k back... i guess its better then nothing.... but this proves two things... ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=64615 Paypal has no support....and you cant trust anyone. Yes it was dumb for me to send that much money without verifying... But i trusted paypal to back up her words. Andrew __________________ bloodcells.info \| digitalized.info \| SOLD \| candidacy.info \| spidering.info \| egypts.info \| diamondjewellery.info \| dence.info \| ditsy.info \| fullback.info \| cocoons.info

01-13-2005, 03:07 PM	#21 (permalink)
Scott Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: UK Posts: 3,547	£50 and the odd $10. NoChex is good for the UK, once the money is sent, you can't get it back!

01-13-2005, 09:55 PM	THREAD STARTER #23 (permalink)
ashaw NamePros Regular Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Maryland Posts: 814	I will gladly admit the united states has far more scammers then the UK... Its always someone trying to pull over a quick one! ...by the way... anyone interested in buying "abc.com" from me for only $5,000? (just a joke) ;-) __________________ bloodcells.info \| digitalized.info \| SOLD \| candidacy.info \| spidering.info \| egypts.info \| diamondjewellery.info \| dence.info \| ditsy.info \| fullback.info \| cocoons.info

01-13-2005, 10:41 PM	#24 (permalink)
jehnidiah NamePros Regular Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 962	I suggest you all read my thread: http://namepros.com/showthread.php?t=64369

01-15-2005, 11:36 AM	#25 (permalink)
Stella NamePros Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 93	I'm certain that PayPal is quite happy to block a persons account in the event of a complaint and then just forget about it. Just like hosts that will pull a plug on a site because of a spam complaint without even finding out if there really was spam sent. Somehow I've got the feeling that we are all getting the short end of the stick with these types of things. We are the ones that pay the fees on payment processors and yet there only has to be one idiot around complaining and you lose all your money. I think it is about time that PayPal and payment processors in general start realising on which side their bread is buttered on. I would be more than happy to sign a petition pertaining to such! __________________ List your Gaming Links Here :wave:

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