Deceptive Domains on Ebay

dgridley · 12-27-2004, 08:49 PM

There are plenty of deceptive domain auctions on ebay. Here's a joker with a "poker.com" auction:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...739697121&rd=1

Same person also has "bet.com", "target.com", and (gutsy!) "ebay.com" knockoffs!

domain.addict · 12-27-2004, 08:53 PM

Link doesn't work for me. But there are many scammers. I once saw an auction for mario.com. Everywhere it said mario.com except in one spot in the description where he put www-mario.com. That might fool someone who thinks he's getting the dream domain.

equity78 · 12-27-2004, 08:53 PM

Its a joke Ebay needs to stop these clowns

mole · 12-27-2004, 08:54 PM

LOL, its so deceptive I get an error message.

dgridley · 12-27-2004, 08:55 PM

Hehe, my fault.. I edited the link. Try it again!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...739697121&rd=1

Originally Posted by mole

LOL, its so deceptive I get an error message.

inflames · 12-27-2004, 08:59 PM

yeah these ppl call themseleves domainers
they have some nerve . they should be lined up and shot

domain.addict · 12-27-2004, 08:59 PM

It's not poker.com and bet.com. It's Pokèr.com and bèt.com. All of his name have the accent marks. So maybe he's not like a scammer?

dgridley · 12-27-2004, 09:03 PM

IMO that auction is still designed to deceive a potential buyer...

"VERY RARE HIGH LEVEL Domain Name with a .com extension
This domain name is truly worth millions!"

Originally Posted by domain.addict

It's not poker.com and bet.com. It's Pokèr.com and bèt.com. All of his name have the accent marks. So maybe he's not like a scammer?

domain.addict · 12-27-2004, 09:06 PM

Originally Posted by dgridley

IMO that auction is still designed to deceive a potential buyer...
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/domain-name-discussion/61977-deceptive-domains-on-ebay.html

"VERY RARE HIGH LEVEL Domain Name with a .com extension
This domain name is truly worth millions!"

Oh I totally agree. Like my example for mario.com. But, what can you do. Although I do not agree with their actions as theyre attempting to deceive, the correct information is still there. They did write out the correct domains. I don't think ebay could so anything about that. It would be the buyers fault if they missed out on the accent marks.

mole · 12-27-2004, 09:21 PM

These IDN names are destinied for manipulation. When the buyer finds out thinking he got the normal character name, all hell will break lose. However, as a rule of thumb, you will, at the very least, type in the name to see whats up on the other side, do an archive.org check, study the accumulated whois records at whois.sc, then decide.

I think the sellers are trying to create "grab it now" excitement and rush the process for a quick kill.

dgridley · 12-27-2004, 09:26 PM

The problem is, you reach more "end users" at ebay who aren't domain saavy..these are the guys being targeted and taken advantage of.

Originally Posted by mole

These IDN names are destinied for manipulation. When the buyer finds out thinking he got the normal character name, all hell will break lose. However, as a rule of thumb, you will, at the very least, type in the name to see whats up on the other side, do an archive.org check, study the accumulated whois records at whois.sc, then decide.

I think the sellers are trying to create "grab it now" excitement and rush the process for a quick kill.

Dillpup · 12-27-2004, 09:28 PM

Take a look at this one:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...739184558&rd=1

Just stupid people preying on *really* stupid people...This one's especially odd because at $1025.00 currently...the reserve isn't met!! Not sure who's stupider! They would be lucky to get thier $8 back for it.There are tons of IDN "sex" combinations still available..šềx.com, şệx.com,sęx.com to name a few..none of which actually mean "sex" in any language.Same for pokér.com.
They are completely missing the point of IDN's..

dgridley · 12-27-2004, 09:39 PM

"This Name generates over 300.000.000 Pages on google.com

Type in sèx and sex and you will see the high quality of this gigant Domain name.

Google and all other search engines found nearly exactly the same for sex and sèx."
Gee, when I tried typing in sèx, I got 710 results.. a far cry from 300,000,000!

Originally Posted by Dillpup

Take a look at this one:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...739184558&rd=1
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=61977

Just stupid people preying on *really* stupid people...This one's especially odd because at $1025.00 currently...the reserve isn't met!! Not sure who's stupider! They would be lucky to get thier $8 back for it.There are tons of IDN "sex" combinations still available..šềx.com, şệx.com,sęx.com to name a few..none of which actually mean "sex" in any language.Same for pokér.com.
They are completely missing the point of IDN's..

domain.addict · 12-27-2004, 09:41 PM

Lol I'd think the buyer was more ignorant but the seller, dumber. I wonder how much he wants for it. Yeah I agree that they're missing the point of IDNs, but I guess they're making money off of it.

CrazyTech · 12-27-2004, 10:01 PM

Same as much of the hosting industry. These are just individuals and companies playing on the ignorance of others. Ethically, there is certainly a problem but legally there isn't much to work with.

dgridley · 12-27-2004, 10:10 PM

"The starting price for this domain is set to cover only our acquistion cost and ebay auction fees."

Hm, and the starting bid was $129?! Where are they buying their domains? Fort Knox?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...739996860&rd=1

dgridley · 12-27-2004, 10:14 PM

"This auction is for the OWNERSHIP of the domain name:

WWW. SPRINTCUSTOMERSERVICE.COM

BELIVE IT YOU ARE GOING TO OWN UNBELIVABLE DOMANIN NAME.SPRINT WILL PAY MILIONS OF DOLLAR YOU CAN OWN IT FOR BID IT PRISE NO RESERVE GOOD LUCK "

A steal of a deal at only $99 million Buy It Now! (Let me get my check book!)

This guys starting bid was $125,000.. how much was his insertion fee??

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...739874715&rd=1
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=61977

And the same guy offering microsoftwindows.cc:

This auction is for the OWNERSHIP of the domain name:
www.MICROSOFTWINDOWS.CC

BELIEVE IT YOU ARE GOING TO OWN UNBELIEVABLE DOMANIN NAME. In November alone there is more then 1 million search for MICROSOFT WINDOWS you can sell software and make millions of dollars.

CrazyTech · 12-27-2004, 10:26 PM

Should drop some emails to Sprint and Microsoft.

Odds are there you have some uninformed domainer IMHO. Probably a 15 year old kid using his dad's account that thinks he's found a virtual gold mine.

The Laci.org auction bothers me - I guess some people don't mind making money off of tragedy. I half-way expect to see a tsunami and indian ocean related domain at the rate we're going up for sale soon.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=61977

I also see it alot with religion - especially Christianity. People jack up the domains on ebay and in the forums. I asked for a domain recently and realized that was a mistake. I'd get a crappy domain asking for $xxxx to $xxxxx.

Ebay Auctions...
isold4u.com - $50k
gonetscape.com - $325k
web-chick.com and web-chicks.com - $700k ea.
Nasdaq.sc - $1 mil (bidding@ $10)

dgridley · 12-27-2004, 10:33 PM

Your fears have been realized:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...sPageName=WDVW

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...sPageName=WDVW
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=61977

And tribute sites are one thing, but profiting off someone else's grief in that respect is not cool.

Originally Posted by CrazyTech

The Laci.org auction bothers me - I guess some people don't mind making money off of tragedy. I half-way expect to see a tsunami and indian ocean related domain at the rate we're going up for sale soon.

12-28-2004, 12:50 AM

The domain name category at eBay is becoming a real thieves market.
I wouldn't doubt it if eBay modified or totally got out of domain names, but, alas, eBay may be the biggest thief of all.

dgridley · 12-28-2004, 07:33 AM

eBay will always err on the side of the biggest fee...

Originally Posted by Grrilla

The domain name category at eBay is becoming a real thieves market.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=61977
I wouldn't doubt it if eBay modified or totally got out of domain names, but, alas, eBay may be the biggest thief of all.

domain.addict · 12-28-2004, 07:34 AM

Yeah, but that's just the way big business operate.

dgridley · 12-28-2004, 07:53 AM

True, but after a bit, you'd think someone with a conscience would realize there's money to be made ethically as well.

Originally Posted by domain.addict

Yeah, but that's just the way big business operate.

domain.addict · 12-28-2004, 07:58 AM

Originally Posted by dgridley

True, but after a bit, you'd think someone with a conscience would realize there's money to be made ethically as well.

Unfortunantly, that's not the case. If those people saw how easy it was to scam, what would push them to sell ethically, if it would take longer, harder, and require more effort?

CrazyTech · 12-28-2004, 08:38 AM

Seems we also have one here a NP who wants to profit from the death and destruction.

12-27-2004, 08:49 PM	THREAD STARTER #1 (permalink)
dgridley NamePros Legend Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: SW Missouri Posts: 18,396 Follow @davew3b	Deceptive Domains on Ebay There are plenty of deceptive domain auctions on ebay. Here's a joker with a "poker.com" auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...739697121&rd=1 Same person also has "bet.com", "target.com", and (gutsy!) "ebay.com" knockoffs! __________________ davew3b tumblr blog \| davew3b posterous blog Last edited by dgridley; 12-27-2004 at 08:55 PM.

12-27-2004, 08:54 PM	#4 (permalink)
mole Insectivora Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Under Ground Posts: 2,164	LOL, its so deceptive I get an error message. __________________ If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end in doubts; but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties. Sir Francis Bacon

12-27-2004, 09:21 PM	#10 (permalink)
mole Insectivora Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Under Ground Posts: 2,164	These IDN names are destinied for manipulation. When the buyer finds out thinking he got the normal character name, all hell will break lose. However, as a rule of thumb, you will, at the very least, type in the name to see whats up on the other side, do an archive.org check, study the accumulated whois records at whois.sc, then decide. I think the sellers are trying to create "grab it now" excitement and rush the process for a quick kill. __________________ If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end in doubts; but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties. Sir Francis Bacon

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12-27-2004, 08:53 PM	#2 (permalink)
domain.addict Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: My Imagination Posts: 1,628	Link doesn't work for me. But there are many scammers. I once saw an auction for mario.com. Everywhere it said mario.com except in one spot in the description where he put www-mario.com. That might fool someone who thinks he's getting the dream domain.

12-27-2004, 08:53 PM	#3 (permalink)
equity78 NamePros Expert Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 7,639	Its a joke Ebay needs to stop these clowns

12-27-2004, 08:59 PM	#6 (permalink)
inflames Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: PA Posts: 1,339	yeah these ppl call themseleves domainers they have some nerve . they should be lined up and shot

12-27-2004, 08:59 PM	#7 (permalink)
domain.addict Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: My Imagination Posts: 1,628	It's not poker.com and bet.com. It's Pokèr.com and bèt.com. All of his name have the accent marks. So maybe he's not like a scammer?

12-27-2004, 09:41 PM	#14 (permalink)
domain.addict Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: My Imagination Posts: 1,628	Lol I'd think the buyer was more ignorant but the seller, dumber. I wonder how much he wants for it. Yeah I agree that they're missing the point of IDNs, but I guess they're making money off of it.

12-27-2004, 10:01 PM	#15 (permalink)
CrazyTech NamePros Expert Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: South Carolina Posts: 5,043	Same as much of the hosting industry. These are just individuals and companies playing on the ignorance of others. Ethically, there is certainly a problem but legally there isn't much to work with.

12-27-2004, 10:14 PM	THREAD STARTER #17 (permalink)
dgridley NamePros Legend Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: SW Missouri Posts: 18,396 Follow @davew3b	"This auction is for the OWNERSHIP of the domain name: WWW. SPRINTCUSTOMERSERVICE.COM BELIVE IT YOU ARE GOING TO OWN UNBELIVABLE DOMANIN NAME.SPRINT WILL PAY MILIONS OF DOLLAR YOU CAN OWN IT FOR BID IT PRISE NO RESERVE GOOD LUCK " A steal of a deal at only $99 million Buy It Now! (Let me get my check book!) This guys starting bid was $125,000.. how much was his insertion fee?? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...739874715&rd=1 ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=61977 And the same guy offering microsoftwindows.cc: This auction is for the OWNERSHIP of the domain name: www.MICROSOFTWINDOWS.CC BELIEVE IT YOU ARE GOING TO OWN UNBELIEVABLE DOMANIN NAME. In November alone there is more then 1 million search for MICROSOFT WINDOWS you can sell software and make millions of dollars. __________________ davew3b tumblr blog \| davew3b posterous blog Last edited by dgridley; 12-27-2004 at 10:19 PM.

12-27-2004, 10:26 PM	#18 (permalink)
CrazyTech NamePros Expert Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: South Carolina Posts: 5,043	Should drop some emails to Sprint and Microsoft. Odds are there you have some uninformed domainer IMHO. Probably a 15 year old kid using his dad's account that thinks he's found a virtual gold mine. The Laci.org auction bothers me - I guess some people don't mind making money off of tragedy. I half-way expect to see a tsunami and indian ocean related domain at the rate we're going up for sale soon. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=61977 I also see it alot with religion - especially Christianity. People jack up the domains on ebay and in the forums. I asked for a domain recently and realized that was a mistake. I'd get a crappy domain asking for $xxxx to $xxxxx. Ebay Auctions... isold4u.com - $50k gonetscape.com - $325k web-chick.com and web-chicks.com - $700k ea. Nasdaq.sc - $1 mil (bidding@ $10) Last edited by CrazyTech; 12-27-2004 at 10:31 PM.

12-28-2004, 12:50 AM	#20 (permalink)
Grrilla Guest Posts: n/a	The domain name category at eBay is becoming a real thieves market. I wouldn't doubt it if eBay modified or totally got out of domain names, but, alas, eBay may be the biggest thief of all.

12-28-2004, 07:34 AM	#22 (permalink)
domain.addict Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: My Imagination Posts: 1,628	Yeah, but that's just the way big business operate.

12-28-2004, 08:38 AM	#25 (permalink)
CrazyTech NamePros Expert Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: South Carolina Posts: 5,043	Seems we also have one here a NP who wants to profit from the death and destruction.

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