Anyone lost RET dot COM

zorag · 12-09-2008, 05:22 PM

Anyone heard of a Mr Hans Hilker via email trying to sell RET dot COM requesting payment via Wester Union to his lawyer because he needs the money quick

His Whois checks out but in this climate I have to ask .. in case someone becomes a statistic.

snoop · 12-09-2008, 05:32 PM

Whois email contact has changed in the last week or so, little doubt that it is stolen.

-REECE- · 12-09-2008, 06:10 PM

**SCAMMER**

Western Union is an irreversible payment method, which in conjunction with needing to sell quick would set my warning bells off.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/domain-name-discussion/541086-anyone-lost-ret-dot-com.html

I personally wouldn't be going near this domain at present.

Thanks for letting us all know.

Originally Posted by zorag

Anyone heard of a Mr Hans Hilker via email trying to sell RET dot COM requesting payment via Wester Union to his lawyer because he needs the money quick

His Whois checks out but in this climate I have to ask .. in case someone becomes a statistic.

zorag · 12-09-2008, 06:26 PM

No probs Reece, I've been in this game too long to fall for a stolen domain. I simply didn't get back to him, he's on the same email as the Whois.

Here's the pitch..

Quote:

i could go 9-10k it's a top name and you know it, it could reach really high on a proper auction or forum. However, i am looking for quick sale since i am leaving with my family soon for a holiday trip. I am just looking to liquidate my online asset. I could provide you scan of my passport as proof of trust. You will need to have a netsol account for quick push and accept to send cash through western union to my Lawyer who will act as middle man here . I am waiting for your answer.

My answer: Wester Union - F&@* O%^

Quote:

I don't know what is wrong with all that using western union, all i know is that it's a fast way to transfer money. So i am asking cooperation since i am about to deal with you at a 10k us price which is really low for that domain and in return I am asking for a fast payment so i can have the cash before the holiday trip. If i had all the time in front of me, i could simply wait for any of those domain conference , and sell the domain for an easy 20,000$ or maybe more. I am an honest person and I am willing to have a honest deal here. So i want to be sure we are on the same page here.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=541086

Thank you for your comprehension,

Hans.

I'm wondering how many emails he sent out and to whom - and if it's sold yet ?

-REECE- · 12-09-2008, 06:38 PM

Sending you rep for a good answer

Scum like this deserves to be shot.

Originally Posted by zorag

My answer: Wester Union - F&@* O%^

Michael · 12-09-2008, 06:59 PM

He should have picked a domain that wasn't an active business. Thanks for the heads up.

zorag · 12-09-2008, 07:21 PM

Originally Posted by Michael

He should have picked a domain that wasn't an active business. Thanks for the heads up.

Is that his business?
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=541086

RET dot COM

Quote:

Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:
Hilker, Hans hanshilker@live.com
RET Utrecht
Cartesiusweg 127a
3534 BC UTRECHT
THE NETHERLANDS
Utrecht 3534 BC
NL
+31 30 255555 fax: 999 999 9999

is pointing to retbouwproducten dot nl

Quote:

Registrant:
JON007328-KPN00
Jongeneel BV
Zeedijk 6
3513GZ UTRECHT
Netherlands

Both domains use "exactly" the same DNS:

Quote:

Domain nameservers:
ns1.cict.info
ns4.kpn.net

He can't be that stupid - can he

-REECE- · 12-09-2008, 07:33 PM

A lot of the scamming is going on involving wannabe phishers downloading ready-made phishing kits. It's a problem which I'm afraid will be getting worse before it gets better

Spade · 12-09-2008, 07:36 PM

Wow. Very balsy. I hope no one falls for this trap. Most of the people who would be buying this kind of domain at this price, should know better then to use that payment method.

allanh · 12-09-2008, 08:16 PM

request him to use Escrow with seller paying the fee. If he is honest and desparate for a quick sell, he should agree to that arrangement.

Alex · 12-10-2008, 02:32 AM

Originally Posted by allanh

request him to use Escrow with seller paying the fee. If he is honest and desparate for a quick sell, he should agree to that arrangement.

I don't think there is any chance the seller is a honest person.

And escrow.com would not resolve anything in this matter, since a stolen domain can be sold through escrow without problem.

Charley · 12-10-2008, 03:26 AM

Originally Posted by -REECE-

Scum like this deserves to be shot.

Really crazy fella.

Federer · 12-10-2008, 04:53 AM

Yes, he is a real nutcase. I also got emails yesterday and today. I smelled a rat after reading the 1st sentance.

I get the impression he is contacting LLL.com owners at random and sending the same story out. As already mentioned, most/all LLL.com's owners would know better than to deal with this lowlife loser.

robfer · 12-10-2008, 07:42 AM

Sounds like a Scam to me!

Who would offer you a copy of there passport etc?

Stay away lets keep all fraudsters out of business!

Protect our domains by sharing information and protecting our community!

Regards,

Robbie

footodors · 12-10-2008, 11:03 AM

kunnen de vlooien van duizend kamelen hun oksels teisteren

***EG.domains*** · 12-10-2008, 11:21 AM

Originally Posted by footodors

kunnen de vlooien van duizend kamelen hun oksels teisteren

Translation from Dutch > English

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Quote:

may the fleas of a thousand camels ravage their armpits

Jasonn · 12-10-2008, 11:26 AM

Someone should call up the company that really owns the domain. They probably have no clue. I got an email from this guy as well. Its easy to tell its not kosher.

zorag · 12-20-2008, 06:22 PM

He's quite persistent, he's just asked me if I'm still interested

footodors · 12-20-2008, 06:49 PM

funny, I let the company know about it.

-REECE- · 12-20-2008, 07:02 PM

Comment on my blog from actual owner: "We are the current owner of the domain ret.com. To be clear, the domain is currently not for sale. We are aware that somebody from Greece is trying to sell our domain. This person somehow changed one emailadres at the contacts details at Network Solutions. We already changed everything, but we have our doubts about the security at Network Solutions."

footodors · 12-20-2008, 10:58 PM

Those darn Greeks!

Ernest · 12-21-2008, 05:33 AM

The problem are not in Greeks or even hackers who stealing domains , but in security holes in all biger registrars . Then i maked my own investigation i found about 3-5 critical holes in enom, moniker and netsol. But the higher expyrienced hackers overtaking only domains who have no park to nameserver or the owner forgot about it . I can tell you what some little registrars have systems width much more secure system then netsol or enom . Thats true .
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=541086

But then i write them about it they told me what fix it but, not fixed till today . Damn lols

The only one way to secure domain is to lock it till expiration date width no availability to change owner or any data !

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12-10-2008, 07:42 AM	#14 (permalink)
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12-09-2008, 05:32 PM	#2 (permalink)
snoop New User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,986	Whois email contact has changed in the last week or so, little doubt that it is stolen.

12-09-2008, 07:33 PM	#8 (permalink)
-REECE- NamePros Expert Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 8,984	A lot of the scamming is going on involving wannabe phishers downloading ready-made phishing kits. It's a problem which I'm afraid will be getting worse before it gets better

12-09-2008, 08:16 PM	#10 (permalink)
allanh NamePros Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 51	request him to use Escrow with seller paying the fee. If he is honest and desparate for a quick sell, he should agree to that arrangement.

12-10-2008, 11:03 AM	#15 (permalink)
footodors NamePros Regular Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: RI Posts: 285	kunnen de vlooien van duizend kamelen hun oksels teisteren __________________ Background Checks Top 10 Lists

12-10-2008, 11:26 AM	#17 (permalink)
Jasonn NamePros Regular Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 330	Someone should call up the company that really owns the domain. They probably have no clue. I got an email from this guy as well. Its easy to tell its not kosher.

12-20-2008, 06:22 PM	THREAD STARTER #18 (permalink)
zorag NamePros Regular Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 402	He's quite persistent, he's just asked me if I'm still interested

12-20-2008, 06:49 PM	#19 (permalink)
footodors NamePros Regular Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: RI Posts: 285	funny, I let the company know about it. __________________ Background Checks Top 10 Lists

12-20-2008, 07:02 PM	#20 (permalink)
-REECE- NamePros Expert Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 8,984	Comment on my blog from actual owner: "We are the current owner of the domain ret.com. To be clear, the domain is currently not for sale. We are aware that somebody from Greece is trying to sell our domain. This person somehow changed one emailadres at the contacts details at Network Solutions. We already changed everything, but we have our doubts about the security at Network Solutions." Last edited by -REECE-; 12-20-2008 at 07:06 PM.

12-20-2008, 10:58 PM	#21 (permalink)
footodors NamePros Regular Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: RI Posts: 285	Those darn Greeks! __________________ Background Checks Top 10 Lists

12-21-2008, 05:33 AM	#22 (permalink)
Ernest Account Suspended Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 119	The problem are not in Greeks or even hackers who stealing domains , but in security holes in all biger registrars . Then i maked my own investigation i found about 3-5 critical holes in enom, moniker and netsol. But the higher expyrienced hackers overtaking only domains who have no park to nameserver or the owner forgot about it . I can tell you what some little registrars have systems width much more secure system then netsol or enom . Thats true . ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=541086 But then i write them about it they told me what fix it but, not fixed till today . Damn lols The only one way to secure domain is to lock it till expiration date width no availability to change owner or any data ! Last edited by Ernest; 12-21-2008 at 05:37 AM.

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