A view from the other side of the domaining fence

ripley · 09-10-2008, 08:18 PM

Somehow stumbled onto this thread, where an enduser is fretting about what to do about offering on a domain he wants:

http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum...fm/835653.html

Pretty instructive. Sometimes we can get so lost in our own little reseller world that we overlook what it must be like to be on the other end. Thoughts?

ripley.

lzy · 09-10-2008, 09:04 PM

In this case, the buyer really wanted the name and the seller was firm so I guess it's all good for both parties.

Thanks for sharing.

weblord · 09-10-2008, 09:06 PM

end users are becoming smarter each day with the available online tools coming all up.
soon, they'll be bargaining with reseller prices.

soggyindo · 09-10-2008, 10:10 PM

thanks for posting!

i wonder what his absolute limit would have been? $500 is nothing for a business as he says...

weblord · 09-10-2008, 11:26 PM

it's all petty conversation for me though until a real sale is posted or realized

Originally Posted by soggyindo

thanks for posting!

i wonder what his absolute limit would have been? $500 is nothing for a business as he says...

accent · 09-10-2008, 11:53 PM

Interesting --

Thanks for posting.

Ross · 09-11-2008, 12:00 AM

made a blog post because this made me laugh LMAO!

maxeaus · 09-11-2008, 12:08 AM

Looks like he got the domain, and screwed over for an extra $50 in GST, LOL, i bet the government never sees a cent of that GST.

BinderGang · 09-11-2008, 01:44 AM

This was pretty interesting. To tell you the truth, I was expecting them to view domainers in a worse way. They were pretty understanding.

ripley · 09-11-2008, 06:38 AM

I particularly liked the part where the domainer countered with $10k, no doubt because he thought it was a reseller trying to lowball him and he wanted to send a message -- and the guy was incredulous (how could you not be). How many times have you seen this recommended? Shoot, I've even done it myself (not up to 10k, but still). But it could've lost him an enduser sale that I think was quite nice considering the name.

ripley.

Steve · 09-11-2008, 06:58 AM

Thanks for the link, ripley. It's interesting to see how the other side views us. I'm surprised that it wasn't more negative toward domainers (although the one poster did call us "squatters" -- wish they'd get their terminology correct).

One of the users mentioned Sedo in that post -- keep in mind that average end users do, in fact, use Sedo. Negotiate reasonably!

soggyindo · 09-11-2008, 07:21 AM

i thought they were pretty good about it. I wonder how many people will try the 10% scam to australian buyers now?

how many of us felt like jumping into their forum, i was itching to...

xman · 09-11-2008, 07:34 AM

It seems like the best lesson learned from the other side of the fence was not to search at godaddy. LOL

soggyindo · 09-11-2008, 07:41 AM

Originally Posted by xman

It seems like the best lesson learned from the other side of the fence was not to search at godaddy. LOL

smart!

maxeaus · 09-11-2008, 08:00 AM

At least the guy got his family name, i looked at his site, and he certainly is getting some value out of it by posting family photos, etc.

I have a very rare family name also, unfortunately it is a generic lll.com as well, i dont think im ever going to have the satisfaction of owning the "trophy family name".
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/domain-name-discussion/512807-a-view-other-side-domaining-fence.html

Just amazes me that somebody had the foresight to go and hand reg obscure surnames.

ADDIT: HMMMM, i knew as soon as i posted that, and re read again, i should have smelled, "domain tasting". I think a further investigation into this Aussie company is warranted. Even their website is suspicious, a single blank page, to apply for a domain. I thought only network solutions did this kind of sneaky stuff these days, but now im not so sure.

- me - · 09-11-2008, 08:15 AM

Originally Posted by weblord

end users are becoming smarter each day with the available online tools coming all up.

Yeah, tell - me - about it.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=512807

Last night on "Law and Order" they went on the internet and used "the wayback machine (archive.org) to help solve a crime.

Talk about going mainstream!

maxeaus · 09-11-2008, 08:35 AM

Well that took all of 5 minutes to uncover the truth,

Domain Active Pty Ltd, a wholly owned subsidiary of Dark Blue Sea Ltd,
Dark Blue Sea Ltd own Fabulous
Fabulous has agreements to list their 400k names with over half the retail registrars, according to a March 07 company announcement on the Australian Stock exchange
I think they also signed up with TDNAM and BuyDomains,

Seems to be a VERY cosey arrangement LOL

lzy · 09-11-2008, 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by - me -

Yeah, tell - me - about it.

Last night on "Law and Order" they went on the internet and used "the wayback machine (archive.org) to help solve a crime.

Talk about going mainstream!

HOLY CRAP! For real!? That's pretty neato.

PokerPie · 09-11-2008, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Sounds like someone somewhere was playing funny buggers with you

funnybuggers.com tips and tricks for successful domaining!

09-10-2008, 08:18 PM	THREAD STARTER #1 (permalink)
ripley NamePros Regular Join Date: May 2006 Location: NamePower.us Posts: 770	A view from the other side of the domaining fence Somehow stumbled onto this thread, where an enduser is fretting about what to do about offering on a domain he wants: http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum...fm/835653.html Pretty instructive. Sometimes we can get so lost in our own little reseller world that we overlook what it must be like to be on the other end. Thoughts? ripley. __________________ www.namepower.us - Domain names with an impact.

09-10-2008, 09:04 PM	#2 (permalink)
lzy Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 3,118	In this case, the buyer really wanted the name and the seller was firm so I guess it's all good for both parties. Thanks for sharing. __________________ ...

09-10-2008, 09:06 PM	#3 (permalink)
weblord NamePros Legend Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Philippines - www.Nabaza.com Posts: 19,785	end users are becoming smarter each day with the available online tools coming all up. soon, they'll be bargaining with reseller prices. __________________ Nabaza.com - Amaia

09-10-2008, 10:10 PM	#4 (permalink)
soggyindo Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: ✰$479 sites✰ artistwebsite.org Posts: 1,285	thanks for posting! i wonder what his absolute limit would have been? $500 is nothing for a business as he says... __________________ Get a top quality domain portfolio, blog, or developed website, from $479. Quote NAMEHUGGER11 for a NamePros only discount. Artist Website \| Contemporary Art Blogs.

09-10-2008, 11:53 PM	#6 (permalink)
accent Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 2,295	Interesting -- Thanks for posting. __________________ Domains for sale For List Of Country Code Domains Jewelry of Tibet and Nepal TibetanJewelry.mobi Tibetan Symbols Om Pyramids Ancient Egyptian Secrets Ancient Mystery Eden Shakti

09-11-2008, 12:00 AM	#7 (permalink)
Ross Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2,132	made a blog post because this made me laugh LMAO!

09-11-2008, 12:08 AM	#8 (permalink)
maxeaus Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 1,815	Looks like he got the domain, and screwed over for an extra $50 in GST, LOL, i bet the government never sees a cent of that GST.

09-11-2008, 01:44 AM	#9 (permalink)
BinderGang Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: New York Posts: 1,332	This was pretty interesting. To tell you the truth, I was expecting them to view domainers in a worse way. They were pretty understanding. __________________ HGX.com - WKZ.com - QVO.com Interested? PM me.

09-11-2008, 06:38 AM	THREAD STARTER #10 (permalink)
ripley NamePros Regular Join Date: May 2006 Location: NamePower.us Posts: 770	I particularly liked the part where the domainer countered with $10k, no doubt because he thought it was a reseller trying to lowball him and he wanted to send a message -- and the guy was incredulous (how could you not be). How many times have you seen this recommended? Shoot, I've even done it myself (not up to 10k, but still). But it could've lost him an enduser sale that I think was quite nice considering the name. ripley. __________________ www.namepower.us - Domain names with an impact.

09-11-2008, 06:58 AM	#11 (permalink)
Steve Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 4,204	Thanks for the link, ripley. It's interesting to see how the other side views us. I'm surprised that it wasn't more negative toward domainers (although the one poster did call us "squatters" -- wish they'd get their terminology correct). One of the users mentioned Sedo in that post -- keep in mind that average end users do, in fact, use Sedo. Negotiate reasonably! __________________ Steve NamePros Staff Emeritus

09-11-2008, 07:21 AM	#12 (permalink)
soggyindo Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: ✰$479 sites✰ artistwebsite.org Posts: 1,285	i thought they were pretty good about it. I wonder how many people will try the 10% scam to australian buyers now? how many of us felt like jumping into their forum, i was itching to... __________________ Get a top quality domain portfolio, blog, or developed website, from $479. Quote NAMEHUGGER11 for a NamePros only discount. Artist Website \| Contemporary Art Blogs.

09-11-2008, 07:34 AM	#13 (permalink)
xman Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: X-I Posts: 2,878	It seems like the best lesson learned from the other side of the fence was not to search at godaddy. LOL __________________ Vegetarian Hut ~ Sc.am

09-11-2008, 08:00 AM	#15 (permalink)
maxeaus Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 1,815	At least the guy got his family name, i looked at his site, and he certainly is getting some value out of it by posting family photos, etc. I have a very rare family name also, unfortunately it is a generic lll.com as well, i dont think im ever going to have the satisfaction of owning the "trophy family name". ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/domain-name-discussion/512807-a-view-other-side-domaining-fence.html Just amazes me that somebody had the foresight to go and hand reg obscure surnames. ADDIT: HMMMM, i knew as soon as i posted that, and re read again, i should have smelled, "domain tasting". I think a further investigation into this Aussie company is warranted. Even their website is suspicious, a single blank page, to apply for a domain. I thought only network solutions did this kind of sneaky stuff these days, but now im not so sure. Last edited by maxeaus; 09-11-2008 at 08:24 AM.

09-11-2008, 08:35 AM	#17 (permalink)
maxeaus Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 1,815	Well that took all of 5 minutes to uncover the truth, Domain Active Pty Ltd, a wholly owned subsidiary of Dark Blue Sea Ltd, Dark Blue Sea Ltd own Fabulous Fabulous has agreements to list their 400k names with over half the retail registrars, according to a March 07 company announcement on the Australian Stock exchange I think they also signed up with TDNAM and BuyDomains, Seems to be a VERY cosey arrangement LOL

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