Parking Versus Mini Sites

Billy! · 07-21-2008, 09:55 AM

Parking Versus Mini Sites

About three weeks ago I came across a thread on Mini Sites and I decided that I would turn all my parked names into Mini Sites.

My names were not earning much at the sedo parking program, so three weeks later I have around 160 developed mini sites with another 30 to develop. I have noticed that my revenue has increased four fold.

Any other domainers out there who have turned their names into mini sites rather than relying on domain name parking?

If so please show us your Mini Sites and let us know if your income has increased from developing Mini Sites.

Here are a few of mine using the Niche Store program

AFL Gear
Backpacks
Motocross
v8 Engines

yandig · 07-21-2008, 10:04 AM

Nice job turning all those parked domains into minisites. How many of your sites have original content? Is it very expensive to pay for hosting on that many sites?

Trickac14 · 07-21-2008, 10:14 AM

Nice, I like information on earning more out of my domains. Because some of my parked pages don't make much at all. How much revenue are they making?

Billy! · 07-21-2008, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by yandig

Nice job turning all those parked domains into minisites. How many of your sites have original content? Is it very expensive to pay for hosting on that many sites?

I have tried to put as much as my own original content on them, but I used www.ezinearticles.com for interesting and relevant articles.

I will try and update the mini sites as much as I can.

It takes around 10 minutes per site once you have all the logos made up, adsense codes and everything else.

But just make sure you plan it out well ahead so you dont have to go back and do all sites again.

I have been over all 150 sites in the last three days in a row and can be a pain if there is a minor error or you are not happy with adsense layout etc.

Hosting costs me $10 per month for "all" names through hostgator ... I have all names with the "Addon" feature through Cpanel.

So I am only paying for the hosting fees for one name which is great.

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Originally Posted by Trickac14

Nice, I like information on earning more out of my domains. Because some of my parked pages don't make much at all. How much revenue are they making?

Thats a secret! But not that much, but a lot more than what I was getting with sedo.

Plus the sites have only been up for a few weeks, so once they are optimised more, I imagine the earnings will only increase again, plus I get commissions from every sale I make through Ebay, sI got a commission of $28 from someone buying a Fridge off ebay today ,,, so that is one big click!

Also I bought this ebook http://adsense-secrets.com/ and that has definately helped with my adsense earnings, not just from my 150 names, but with my developed sites such as www.beaututes.com

sourcer · 07-21-2008, 10:46 AM

I appreciate your idea and that you are sharing with us, but what does google think about the duplicate content ? (the articles from ezinearticles there are used on a lot of sites) I mean this is ok with google adsense ?

Billy! · 07-21-2008, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by sourcer

I appreciate your idea and that you are sharing with us, but what does google think about the duplicate content ? (the articles from ezinearticles there are used on a lot of sites) I mean this is ok with google adsense ?

As far as I know it is against TOS to use Copyrighted content, but it is okay to use articles from ezine, because that content is helping the article writers promote other sites. I do have a few wikipedia articles as well but for the time being until I change the content.

90% of the minisites I have, have my own content and ezine content.

siga · 07-21-2008, 12:44 PM

Billy,
I've been wondering about creating minisites recently, out of interest did you get much traffic when parking? has it increased now?
Got a few domains I'd like to create minisites in a niche on but dont get any traffic parked. Did you have to work much on creating backlinks and PR?
Cheers
SiGa

**Ronald Regging** · 07-21-2008, 01:08 PM

I think it is in most people's interest to develop minisites rather than just parking their domains. This is especially true considering the lawsuits against Google right now for advertising on parked domains. I think the claims are stupid, but it could have a profound impact on parking's future.

Keyword Search Volume Tool
https://adwords.google.com/select/KeywordToolExternal

Use the above tool for a 10 minute experiment and you'll be sold.

Look through the list of domains that you have. If you have any random two word .coms, plug the terms into that tool and see how many searches there are a month for that term. Most of my domains only get about 20 hits a month and make little to nothing in parking. Obviously they don't have a lot of natural type-in traffic. However, if I search the terms with the above tool, I find that some have a search volume of 1k-10k searches a month.

It becomes obvious that if you develop some sort of site and focus on SEO, you probably have a very good chance of ranking high in the search engines for that term. Which means that instead of getting 20 hits a month from parking, you could potentially be getting thousands per month.

It's a bit more work, but if done right, you can turn loser domains into cash monies.

Also, this probably works for other types of domains as well, I was just giving an example.

Billy! · 07-22-2008, 05:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siga

Billy,
I've been wondering about creating minisites recently, out of interest did you get much traffic when parking? has it increased now?
Got a few domains I'd like to create minisites in a niche on but dont get any traffic parked. Did you have to work much on creating backlinks and PR?
Cheers
SiGa

I get all different forms of traffic with my names, some good traffic and some crap traffic.

I have not noticed an increase cause the sites have only been up for a few weeks. But I have definately noticed an increase in earnings compared to that of parking my domains.

If you create the mini sites with good keywords, then you will start to get traffic plus more earnings.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronald Regging

I think it is in most people's interest to develop minisites rather than just parking their domains. This is especially true considering the lawsuits against Google right now for advertising on parked domains. I think the claims are stupid, but it could have a profound impact on parking's future.

Keyword Search Volume Tool
https://adwords.google.com/select/KeywordToolExternal

Use the above tool for a 10 minute experiment and you'll be sold.

Look through the list of domains that you have. If you have any random two word .coms, plug the terms into that tool and see how many searches there are a month for that term. Most of my domains only get about 20 hits a month and make little to nothing in parking. Obviously they don't have a lot of natural type-in traffic. However, if I search the terms with the above tool, I find that some have a search volume of 1k-10k searches a month.

It becomes obvious that if you develop some sort of site and focus on SEO, you probably have a very good chance of ranking high in the search engines for that term. Which means that instead of getting 20 hits a month from parking, you could potentially be getting thousands per month.

It's a bit more work, but if done right, you can turn loser domains into cash monies.

Also, this probably works for other types of domains as well, I was just giving an example.

Cheers thanks for the great reply

Slick Domains · 07-22-2008, 06:02 AM

Great post! I've got about 50 developed BANS sites right now (you can see one at Diamond Investments ).

I started the same way you did. I picked up BANS, some BANS templates, and started developing some of my poker and other domains I had just sitting in my accounts parked and earning nothing. I put 2-3 pages of content per mini site and so far I've had a huge amount of success. The income isn't huge, but its at least 20 times what I was making parking, so I'm very happy. My extra domains now pretty much all pay for their own renewals and I extra spending money to turn around and buy/develop more BANS sites. Definitely the best purchase I've made so far. You can read more about my story here.

And yes, as mentioned above, there shouldn't be any extra hosting costs. I also use Hostgator and their Addon domains feature, so I can launch up to 999 websites or mini sites for a grand total of $7.00 a month. I've got over 100 addon domains in there right now and never had a problem.

dbkooper · 07-22-2008, 04:31 PM

Mini sites > parked domain sites. However, both are worthless without proper back link building and marketing. You need to get traffic to these sites before you get any click throughs to your advertisers

**Ross** · 07-22-2008, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by dbkooper

Mini sites > parked domain sites. However, both are worthless without proper back link building and marketing. You need to get traffic to these sites before you get any click throughs to your advertisers

When i make my mini-site i just use SEO techniques when writing the content and when naming sections of the site. Also with the meta keywords and description. This actually increases natural traffic with little to no marketing or link building. People like natural traffic over link populated sites. Plus from experience natural traffic is more likely to step on the money land mines in your site over someone that was directed there through a link.

What im trying to say is that you don't need massive link building or marketing at all to generate money or traffic from a worthless domain. You just have to know how to target the domain know what kind of content and type of site the domain needs.

weblord · 07-22-2008, 05:02 PM

hey congrats the real way to earning money from your domains is via development, parking are for those with type in traffic which is very rare nowadays.

Barefoottech · 07-22-2008, 05:10 PM

Yes minisites >> Parking
Jeez I have been telling Anyone that will listen that for nearly 3 years.

How many more 2c Clicks on parking programs do you guys need before you all realise it.

Plus all those Very Pronouncable Investment names, can be monetised easier with a minisite.

One thing always comes up in these threads , "What about Duplicate content"

The ultimate in duplicated content surely is a PARKED PAGE, so any development into a minisite has to be an improvement.

wot · 07-22-2008, 05:30 PM

My biggest success with minisites has been with IDN, ( probably get the whole thread moved now). Getting very little from parking as appropriate browser use is still in it's infancy.

This one gets 50/60 a day with a low clik thru because content is barely relevant but still gets around $1 a day as ppc is increasing - will be getting around to full development of a few of these names to take full advantage of the rising tide of idn acceptance.

xn--dlq0b02rs2oo9iu60b2k1a.com 北京五星级酒店.com Beijing 5 Star Hotel

We are on page one of Baidu ( The world's next number one search engine) and there has been zero seo.

Any Chinese out there who would like to look at the site development

shockie · 07-22-2008, 06:02 PM

i don't understand how it's possible to be number one on the world's next search engine without any seo.

wot · 07-22-2008, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by shockie

i don't understand how it's possible to be number one on the world's next search engine without any seo.

There has been no seo , it's there - number 10 out of 3,170,000 - simply a minisite with an rss feed.

http://www.baidu.com/s?wd=%B1%B1%BE%...B6%BE%C6%B5%EA

Just the keywords seem to have done it, or maybe others can explain - I had it made for me for vlow $'s - generally I just buy and sell.

Albert · 07-22-2008, 06:51 PM

the domain name it self is a keyword. so keyword still play a role in seo.

I am developing my low traffic domain but I always have problem adding contents to the site. Too lazy and not understanding the facts about the industry. Developing one time of 100+ domain is hard. How you guys get content up so easily? Of course not the one duplicating. You write your own?

**Ross** · 07-22-2008, 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CommunityZ

the domain name it self is a keyword. so keyword still play a role in seo.

I am developing my low traffic domain but I always have problem adding contents to the site. Too lazy and not understanding the facts about the industry. Developing one time of 100+ domain is hard. How you guys get content up so easily? Of course not the one duplicating. You write your own?

A choice by many is to re-write an article. Basically take an article and put it in your own words. Works great if you cant find enough info or you are simply lazy. Although 100% unique content is KING. With carefully placed keywords in the articles you can get great SEO from it.

Billy! · 07-22-2008, 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefoottech

One thing always comes up in these threads , "What about Duplicate content"

The ultimate in duplicated content surely is a PARKED PAGE, so any development into a minisite has to be an improvement.

Just got Rick Latonas latest email.

Speaking of duplicate content Rick Latona seems to be doing fine with http://www.appalachiantrail.com/

Quote:

AppalachianTrail.com - $39,000 Site is included. Does over 5 dollars per day on average through AdSense.

I did a search of some content in the site.

Content taken from:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appalachian_Trail

http://wikitravel.org/en/Appalachian_Trail

Interesting, duplicate content doesnt seem to bother his earnings.

**Ross** · 07-22-2008, 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy!

Just got Rick Latonas latest email.

Speaking of duplicate content Rick Latona seems to be doing fine with http://www.appalachiantrail.com/

Interesting, duplicate content doesnt seem to bother his earnings.

Check out the stats on the domain. Im pretty sure the traffic is either type in or is coming from external links. Hardly any of it is natural search traffic.

Frequency (Google) 2130000
in Anchor Text 49400
in Title 122000
in URL 918
Backlinks 225
PageRank 4
Alexa Rank Not Ranked
Traffic (Visits / Day) N/A
PPC Ads # 2
Max PPC Bid $0.77
MAX PPC Income/day $6.4
Overture/mo 10214
Wordtracker/day 595

Domains like these have been promoted and this particular one has been regged since 97 and has had a SITE on it since 03. Not surprised it does that well.

Wire · 07-22-2008, 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefoottech

The ultimate in duplicated content surely is a PARKED PAGE, so any development into a minisite has to be an improvement.

Great Quote. I plan on stealing it often!

Bampa · 07-22-2008, 07:46 PM

Hi everyone:

I have a lot of names that are well suited to mini sites. What I want to know is are the articles in Wikipedia and ezinearticles usable without violating any copyright laws?

I have done quite a bit of writing, and I could alter articles easily. Integrity is important to me so I want to know if this is OK?

Thanks...

**Ross** · 07-22-2008, 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bampa

Hi everyone:

I have a lot of names that are well suited to mini sites. What I want to know is are the articles in Wikipedia and ezinearticles usable without violating any copyright laws?

I have done quite a bit of writing, and I could alter articles easily. Integrity is important to me so I want to know if this is OK?

Thanks...

Word for word, in the long run they will hurt your SERPs. As for copyrights i don't believe there are any so long as you credit the writer obviously.

Your best route for the long run would be to re-write the articles or make some content up from scratch. Just to be safe and plus you can set those little land mines(keywords) where you want.

yilduz · 07-22-2008, 08:08 PM

I'm turning all of the domains I don't have plans for into mini-sites. I have a bunch of .info, some .net, and some .com domains not being used, but none are really good for parking or selling.

They're all going to have the same look, and I finished the general layout. I have it set up so all I have to do is change one file to change how every site looks.

07-21-2008, 09:55 AM	#1 (permalink)
Billy! Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Perth > Western Australia Posts: 1,118 200.00 NP$ (Donate)	Parking Versus Mini Sites Parking Versus Mini Sites About three weeks ago I came across a thread on Mini Sites and I decided that I would turn all my parked names into Mini Sites. My names were not earning much at the sedo parking program, so three weeks later I have around 160 developed mini sites with another 30 to develop. I have noticed that my revenue has increased four fold. Any other domainers out there who have turned their names into mini sites rather than relying on domain name parking? If so please show us your Mini Sites and let us know if your income has increased from developing Mini Sites. Here are a few of mine using the Niche Store program AFL Gear Backpacks Motocross v8 Engines __________________ Read This -You Domainers are CRAZY!

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yandig Domain Bagger Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Coma Berenices Posts: 3,696 182.10 NP$ (Donate)	Nice job turning all those parked domains into minisites. How many of your sites have original content? Is it very expensive to pay for hosting on that many sites? __________________ Yandig Domain Bagger (Blog) - Unregistered Domains! *Dungeon Quests* - The Old Dungeon Crawls incl. Fargoal, NetHack, Shadowgate and more!

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sourcer NamePros Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Constanta, RO Posts: 46 9.75 NP$ (Donate)	I appreciate your idea and that you are sharing with us, but what does google think about the duplicate content ? (the articles from ezinearticles there are used on a lot of sites) I mean this is ok with google adsense ? __________________ █ proxy / new proxies posted daily █ submit proxy / instant approval, no link back required █ travel destinations / all over the world

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siga NamePros Regular Join Date: May 2008 Location: Scotland Posts: 537 665.00 NP$ (Donate)	Traffic Billy, I've been wondering about creating minisites recently, out of interest did you get much traffic when parking? has it increased now? Got a few domains I'd like to create minisites in a niche on but dont get any traffic parked. Did you have to work much on creating backlinks and PR? Cheers SiGa

07-22-2008, 06:02 AM	#10 (permalink)
Slick Domains NamePros Regular Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 227 0.00 NP$ (Donate)	Great post! I've got about 50 developed BANS sites right now (you can see one at Diamond Investments ). I started the same way you did. I picked up BANS, some BANS templates, and started developing some of my poker and other domains I had just sitting in my accounts parked and earning nothing. I put 2-3 pages of content per mini site and so far I've had a huge amount of success. The income isn't huge, but its at least 20 times what I was making parking, so I'm very happy. My extra domains now pretty much all pay for their own renewals and I extra spending money to turn around and buy/develop more BANS sites. Definitely the best purchase I've made so far. You can read more about my story here. And yes, as mentioned above, there shouldn't be any extra hosting costs. I also use Hostgator and their Addon domains feature, so I can launch up to 999 websites or mini sites for a grand total of $7.00 a month. I've got over 100 addon domains in there right now and never had a problem. __________________ ~[See How I Develop My Parked Domains]~ Slick Affiliate \| Hack WordPress - WordPress Themes, Plugins, Hacks, Guides, and more!

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07-21-2008, 10:14 AM	#3 (permalink)
Trickac14 NamePros Regular Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: TEXAS Posts: 431 135.00 NP$ (Donate)	Nice, I like information on earning more out of my domains. Because some of my parked pages don't make much at all. How much revenue are they making?

07-21-2008, 01:08 PM	#8 (permalink)
Ronald Regging Ex-President Forum Moderator Join Date: May 2006 Location: Marietta, PA Posts: 2,477 400.00 NP$ (Donate)	I think it is in most people's interest to develop minisites rather than just parking their domains. This is especially true considering the lawsuits against Google right now for advertising on parked domains. I think the claims are stupid, but it could have a profound impact on parking's future. Keyword Search Volume Tool https://adwords.google.com/select/KeywordToolExternal Use the above tool for a 10 minute experiment and you'll be sold. Look through the list of domains that you have. If you have any random two word .coms, plug the terms into that tool and see how many searches there are a month for that term. Most of my domains only get about 20 hits a month and make little to nothing in parking. Obviously they don't have a lot of natural type-in traffic. However, if I search the terms with the above tool, I find that some have a search volume of 1k-10k searches a month. It becomes obvious that if you develop some sort of site and focus on SEO, you probably have a very good chance of ranking high in the search engines for that term. Which means that instead of getting 20 hits a month from parking, you could potentially be getting thousands per month. It's a bit more work, but if done right, you can turn loser domains into cash monies. Also, this probably works for other types of domains as well, I was just giving an example.

07-22-2008, 04:31 PM	#11 (permalink)
dbkooper NamePros Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 47 131.75 NP$ (Donate)	Mini sites > parked domain sites. However, both are worthless without proper back link building and marketing. You need to get traffic to these sites before you get any click throughs to your advertisers __________________ Need affordable Web Hosting? Check out ReadySetConnect! Reviews of top web hosting providers of 2008 Want to start a website? Free social web hosting by 0bones. Everything you need to start a website for FREE

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weblord NamePros Legend Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Philippines - www.Nabaza.com Posts: 19,840 21,700.43 NP$ (Donate)	hey congrats the real way to earning money from your domains is via development, parking are for those with type in traffic which is very rare nowadays.

07-22-2008, 05:10 PM	#14 (permalink)
Barefoottech The MINISITE King Join Date: May 2005 Location: With my WIFE Posts: 3,879 87.24 NP$ (Donate)	Yes minisites >> Parking Jeez I have been telling Anyone that will listen that for nearly 3 years. How many more 2c Clicks on parking programs do you guys need before you all realise it. Plus all those Very Pronouncable Investment names, can be monetised easier with a minisite. One thing always comes up in these threads , "What about Duplicate content" The ultimate in duplicated content surely is a PARKED PAGE, so any development into a minisite has to be an improvement. __________________ Domains \| HomeSite \| Aussie Outback BareFootTech has several High-Quality names for sale. Including the Legendary MiniSite.info (offers over 3.5KUSD) PM for details (

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wot Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Golden Triangle Posts: 4,677 1,845.80 NP$ (Donate)	My biggest success with minisites has been with IDN, ( probably get the whole thread moved now). Getting very little from parking as appropriate browser use is still in it's infancy. This one gets 50/60 a day with a low clik thru because content is barely relevant but still gets around $1 a day as ppc is increasing - will be getting around to full development of a few of these names to take full advantage of the rising tide of idn acceptance. xn--dlq0b02rs2oo9iu60b2k1a.com 北京五星级酒店.com Beijing 5 Star Hotel We are on page one of Baidu ( The world's next number one search engine) and there has been zero seo. Any Chinese out there who would like to look at the site development __________________ "The difficult I will do right now- the impossible may take a little time!" Geography.info,ItalianRiviera.info , 247.in, TimorLeste.tl,Brawn.gp,บาท.com TajMahal.co.in,Seychelles.com.sc, 红旗.com, 北京.biz,搞笑.cn/.中国/.中國

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07-22-2008, 06:51 PM	#18 (permalink)
Albert Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Malaysia Posts: 1,051 45,842.34 NP$ (Donate)	the domain name it self is a keyword. so keyword still play a role in seo. I am developing my low traffic domain but I always have problem adding contents to the site. Too lazy and not understanding the facts about the industry. Developing one time of 100+ domain is hard. How you guys get content up so easily? Of course not the one duplicating. You write your own?

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Bampa NamePros Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 55 0.00 NP$ (Donate)	Need some help... Hi everyone: I have a lot of names that are well suited to mini sites. What I want to know is are the articles in Wikipedia and ezinearticles usable without violating any copyright laws? I have done quite a bit of writing, and I could alter articles easily. Integrity is important to me so I want to know if this is OK? Thanks...

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